ianmdrennan 2 #26 October 20, 2012 Interesting link, thanks. I always thought all AK-47's were fully automatic. Learned something new.Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #27 October 20, 2012 But, but, they look so scary. Anything that looks that scary shouldn't be legal. Most gun related crimes are committed with small handguns. Not large semi automatic AK's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtiflyer 0 #28 October 20, 2012 QuoteBut, but, they look so scary. Anything that looks that scary shouldn't be legal. Most gun related crimes are committed with small handguns. Not large semi automatic AK's Even if he imposes more idiotic attempts to impede 2nd amendment rights, that will not lower the number of crimes committed with firearms. Banning firearms does not stop criminals from having or using them. All it stops are those people who want to own them legally. Personally I don't expect law enforcement to come and save me if I call 911 about a home invasion. Also I don't expect the paramedics to save the home-invader after I fill him/her with holes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #29 October 20, 2012 QuoteInteresting link, thanks. I always thought all AK-47's were fully automatic. Learned something new. Good ... glad you found some value in it. So the next time some snake oil salesman turned politician says "If elected, we will ban assault weapons", just know that they are already banned because automatic firearms are already prohibited and highly regulated. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #30 October 20, 2012 Hey look I don't have a horse in this race but as far as 'But the general view of analysts and those in the industry is that Obama is the main catalyst.' It seem to be true but for all the wrong reasons, Americans appear to be more insecure than at any time since the depression, coupled with the fear that the government is going to some how take away peoples right to defend themselves people are stocking up. Its not like the POTUS is in anyway actively driving the sale in a pro industry kind of way, or am I incorrect?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #31 October 20, 2012 QuoteObama did say in the debate that he wants to ban assault weapons, and well he should. Nobody needs to own those high-powered guns. The only thing they're good for is killing large numbers of people. You don't need an AK47 to deer hunt. In the south we use them to hunt hogs.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #32 October 20, 2012 QuoteObama did say in the debate that he wants to ban assault weapons, and well he should. Nobody needs to own those high-powered guns. The only thing they're good for is killing large numbers of people. You don't need an AK47 to deer hunt. There are a lot of things we don't 'need' in life, can you imagine what a bland and boring world it would be if you were only allowed to own that which you needed to own?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #33 October 20, 2012 QuoteHey look I don't have a horse in this race but as far as 'But the general view of analysts and those in the industry is that Obama is the main catalyst.' It seem to be true but for all the wrong reasons, Americans appear to be more insecure than at any time since the depression, coupled with the fear that the government is going to some how take away peoples right to defend themselves people are stocking up. Its not like the POTUS is in anyway actively driving the sale in a pro industry kind of way, or am I incorrect? I believe you are absolutely correct. People are insecure. I never concerned myself with home or self defense until BHO was elected. The left wingers here are constantly arguing facts about this and that but, the main fact is BHO is divisive and people are fearful. He does not have the leadership qualities required to unite the country.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #34 October 20, 2012 QuoteInteresting link, thanks. I always thought all AK-47's were fully automatic. Learned something new. Wow! I would never have thought that a highly technical professional parachutist held the belief that all AK-47's were full auto. I don't mean that as a put down. I am just surprised.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #35 October 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteInteresting link, thanks. I always thought all AK-47's were fully automatic. Learned something new. Wow! I would never have thought that a highly technical professional parachutist held the belief that all AK-47's were full auto. I don't mean that as a put down. I am just surprised. It surprises me that a self proclaimed Christian like you seems to ignore the teachings of Jesus.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #36 October 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteInteresting link, thanks. I always thought all AK-47's were fully automatic. Learned something new. Wow! I would never have thought that a highly technical professional parachutist held the belief that all AK-47's were full auto. I don't mean that as a put down. I am just surprised. It surprises me that a self proclaimed Christian like you seems to ignore the teachings of Jesus. I do not understand what you mean.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #37 October 20, 2012 "Armas, para que?" (Guns, for what?) Fidel Castro “All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.” - Mao Tze Tung, Nov 6 1938 “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government” – Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” - James Madison, Federalist Paper #46 “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” - Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of RightsThe forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #38 October 20, 2012 Why would I know anything about firearms? I don't have any but support the right to own them and have always done so. Its like me saying that 'I'm surprised that as a highly technical gun owner and proponent you don't know anything about software engineering' IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #39 October 20, 2012 QuoteWhy would I know anything about firearms? I don't have any but support the right to own them and have always done so. Its like me saying that 'I'm surprised that as a highly technical gun owner and proponent you don't know anything about software engineering' Ian As an old school parachutist, when I started 90% of the jumpers were military or ex-military. We all just knew such things. Nowadays, skydivers i.e., civilian freefallers, know more about homosexuality and welfare. It is just signs of the times that I find weird.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #40 October 20, 2012 I believe you are absolutely correct. People are insecure. I never concerned myself with home or self defense until BHO was elected. Right, because there were no bad people before he was elected... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #41 October 20, 2012 QuoteYou just showed your lack of knowledge of firearms. The AK47 fires a smaller round (7.62x39mm) than your standard .308 hunting rifle fires (7.62x51mm). Your standard hunting rifle is a lot more powerful than an AK47. Doesn't matter much. An AK is still powerful enough to kill people, lots of them, in a small amount of time. It's not so much the size of the bullet, but the ability to shoot fast without reloading. The darned things are a menace to society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #42 October 20, 2012 QuoteMost gun related crimes are committed with small handguns. Not large semi automatic AK's So maybe then we should ban small handguns. According to the FBI, violent crime went up 18% last year. Seems like a good time to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #43 October 20, 2012 QuoteEven if he imposes more idiotic attempts to impede 2nd amendment rights, that will not lower the number of crimes committed with firearms. Banning firearms does not stop criminals from having or using them. All it stops are those people who want to own them legally. If there are fewer guns in circulation, of the type used in crimes, then there will be fewer people who can use them to commit crimes. It's just common sense. Less guns, less crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #44 October 20, 2012 Quote...automatic firearms are already prohibited and highly regulated. If they're prohibited then there's nothing to regulate. If they're regulated, that implies that you can own them, but they're just tightly controlled. So those two things sound a bit contradictory. Which is it? I see people on TV shows shooting machine guns, so they must not be prohibited completely... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #45 October 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteObama did say in the debate that he wants to ban assault weapons, and well he should. Nobody needs to own those high-powered guns. The only thing they're good for is killing large numbers of people. You don't need an AK47 to deer hunt. In the south we use them to hunt hogs. Couldn't you use something else to hunt hogs instead? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #46 October 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteObama did say in the debate that he wants to ban assault weapons, and well he should. Nobody needs to own those high-powered guns. The only thing they're good for is killing large numbers of people. You don't need an AK47 to deer hunt. There are a lot of things we don't 'need' in life, can you imagine what a bland and boring world it would be if you were only allowed to own that which you needed to own? When it comes to guns used to commit mass murder, I think we can manage without 'em. There are plenty of other guns you can have to satisfy your gun fever. So that's not really denying you some luxury which gives your life enjoyment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #47 October 20, 2012 QuoteWow! I would never have thought that a highly technical professional parachutist held the belief that all AK-47's were full auto. What does the "A" in "AK-47" stand for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #48 October 20, 2012 QuoteDoesn't matter much. An AK is still powerful enough to kill people, lots of them, in a small amount of time. It's not so much the size of the bullet, but the ability to shoot fast without reloading. Again you show us your lack of knowledge towards firearms. QuoteWhat does the "A" in "AK-47" stand for? What are you trying to get at here? If you are thinking the "A" means "Assault" OMG you are too funny. AK stands for: Avtomat Kalashnikova (tried to post the actual Russian cyrillic word here but DZ.COM does not appear to handle Unicode) Translated into English it means: Kalashnikov Rifle Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #49 October 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteMost gun related crimes are committed with small handguns. Not large semi automatic AK's So maybe then we should ban small handguns. According to the FBI, violent crime went up 18% last year. Seems like a good time to do it. Yeah, that will solve the problem. Lets make crack cocaine illegal too. Oh, wait !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #50 October 21, 2012 QuoteQuote...automatic firearms are already prohibited and highly regulated. If they're prohibited then there's nothing to regulate. If they're regulated, that implies that you can own them, but they're just tightly controlled. So those two things sound a bit contradictory. Which is it? I see people on TV shows shooting machine guns, so they must not be prohibited completely... You do realize the guns they use on TV aren't real guns, don't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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