PhreeZone 20 #1 October 20, 2012 I caught this editorial endorsement of one of the candidates today that surprised me a little. I don't think it will alter any electoral votes but its an odd endorsement none the less. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.cspYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #2 October 20, 2012 QuoteI caught this editorial endorsement of one of the candidates today that surprised me a little. I don't think it will alter any electoral votes but its an odd endorsement none the less. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.csp Well, every word of it is correct, even though it IS unexpected.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 October 20, 2012 Just so people understand and to be fair, the Salt Lake Tribune isn't really the "Mormon" newspaper. That's the Deseret News. While they do work together, it's just not the same as the official voice of the Mormon Church. Now, if the Deseret News endorsed Obama, THAT would be a shocker.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #4 October 20, 2012 The difference between the to candidates is obvious if you look at their track records. Mitt governs from the center even though he panders to the far right to get their nomination and vote. Obama governs to the far left and panders to the center to get votes. While pandering is a major distraction and turn off and allows each side to call the other a "liar" and all kinds of other crap that distracts from the real issues, it's become almost a necessity in a 2 party system. It's why track records have become really important..... "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #5 October 21, 2012 QuoteThe difference between the to candidates is obvious if you look at their track records. Mitt governs from the center even though he panders to the far right to get their nomination and vote. Obama governs to the far left and panders to the center to get votes. I don't know about that. I've heard plenty say that Obama is actually too centrist and doesn't do enough to appeal to his far left base. I think most political analysts have agreed with that statement.Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #6 October 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteThe difference between the to candidates is obvious if you look at their track records. Mitt governs from the center even though he panders to the far right to get their nomination and vote. Obama governs to the far left and panders to the center to get votes. I don't know about that. I've heard plenty say that Obama is actually too centrist and doesn't do enough to appeal to his far left base. I think most political analysts have agreed with that statement. Absolutely correct. Anyone who thinks Obama is far left is out of touch with reality.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 October 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe difference between the to candidates is obvious if you look at their track records. Mitt governs from the center even though he panders to the far right to get their nomination and vote. Obama governs to the far left and panders to the center to get votes. I don't know about that. I've heard plenty say that Obama is actually too centrist and doesn't do enough to appeal to his far left base. I think most political analysts have agreed with that statement. Absolutely correct. Anyone who thinks Obama is far left is out of touch with reality. This certainly doesn't sound very left wing: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/06/obama_drone_strikes_the_president_ordered_more_than_george_w_bush.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 October 21, 2012 Or they are further left than he is which is more likely given the extremism in the Democrat Party these days. Ted Kennedy looks conservative by comparison. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 October 21, 2012 I give Obama lots of credit for taking it to Al Qaeda. It's one of the few things he's done well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #10 October 25, 2012 http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/us-usa-campaign-powell-idUSBRE89O0RY20121025 Here is another one. Powell agrees with Obama's foreign policy.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 October 25, 2012 Quotehttp://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/us-usa-campaign-powell-idUSBRE89O0RY20121025 Here is another one. Powell agrees with Obama's foreign policy. Bullshit. That's not even close to what he said. He said he agreed with ending the war in Afghanistan and attacking terrorism. Of course in the minds of some of the less informed among us, "I got Bin Laden" IS Obamas foreign policy. Romney should respond "You didn't kill Bin Laden, someone else did" to mock Obamas "You didn't build that". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #12 October 25, 2012 Of course, neither Romney nor Obama will address a viewpoint any different than the continuing expansion of American overseas intervention. Stewart said something about how Romney has come around on Obama's foreign policy position, which happened after Obama came around on bush's oreign policy position. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 October 25, 2012 I agree with ending Afghanistan and going after terrorists and I give Obama props for that. I'm less enthused about waking guns, dealing with China, and a host of other issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 October 25, 2012 I disagree with extrajudicial capital punishment/assassinations carried out by US Military forces on foreign soil. It used to be the liberals that didn't like it - even if it was a Democrat like LBJ doing it. Now, of course, things have changed. Liberals don't have the anatomy they used to have. Now it's their guy leading the way and while Dubya did it, ooooooh, how terrible. Obama does it? YAY! At least the GOP has some ideological consistency and give Obama props for seeing things their way. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #15 October 25, 2012 Well, it is funny that Obama's greatest foreign affairs achievements have come by continuing Bush policies.... Although I would have to say that the greatest failure on Obama's part has been the systematic disassembly of our intelligence apparatus. Maybe Benghazi wouldn't have happened if they were firing on all cylinders... Or has everyone forgot about Eric Holders year long witch hunt of the CIA as soon as Obama took office?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #16 October 25, 2012 QuoteWell, it is funny that Obama's greatest foreign affairs achievements have come by continuing Bush policies.... Really? Obama has continued pissing off our traditional western European allies like Bush did?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #17 October 25, 2012 Quote Quote Well, it is funny that Obama's greatest foreign affairs achievements have come by continuing Bush policies.... Really? Obama has continued pissing off our traditional western European allies like Bush did? No...he did it in a kinder, gentler way. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #18 October 26, 2012 QuoteI disagree with extrajudicial capital punishment/assassinations carried out by US Military forces on foreign soil. It used to be the liberals that didn't like it - even if it was a Democrat like LBJ doing it. Now, of course, things have changed. Liberals don't have the anatomy they used to have. Now it's their guy leading the way and while Dubya did it, ooooooh, how terrible. Obama does it? YAY! At least the GOP has some ideological consistency and give Obama props for seeing things their way. Why isn't Joan Baez being arrested at anti-war protests? Oh wait...there aren't any (none that are getting media attention anyway). OWS is getting more press than anti-war these days. One wonders if it's for political reasons or just plain apathy. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #19 October 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteThe difference between the to candidates is obvious if you look at their track records. Mitt governs from the center even though he panders to the far right to get their nomination and vote. Obama governs to the far left and panders to the center to get votes. I don't know about that. I've heard plenty say that Obama is actually too centrist and doesn't do enough to appeal to his far left base. I think most political analysts have agreed with that statement. Agreed. Both are seen as centrist by the extremists of their party. Both pander to those extremists to keep them from going off and voting for some nutcase like Paul. Both take liberty with facts in order to get elected. The biggest difference is that Romney appears to have made the most about-face changes while pandering. He has done a complete 180 on so many topics it is ridiculous." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
