Andy9o8 2 #26 October 28, 2012 Quote Quote It saddens me that this is getting little to no coverage nor discussion. When people are more concerned with voting for someone because they will provide access to free meds vs. real issues and Americans dying at the hands of religious zealots....it's just fucking embarrassing. I've reached the point where my anger is coming to the surface. It is creating the same anger issues once associated with the Vietnam POW/MIA's. As well it should, even if it's too little, and way too late. Too bad your rage didn't surface at Bush-II for murdering - murdering! - over 3,000 American service-people in the sands of Iraq, for no good reason other than to show the world that he's tougher than his daddy. At least Clinton only murdered Vince Foster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #27 October 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteIt is BHO's position of the anti-neocolonialism.As opposed to your (and Sundevil's and other paleoconservative's) preference for neo-colonialism? Some people can never have enough wars, especially if you don't have to do any of the fighting. Don Obama was in favor of war, when it was war against the leaders of Egypt and Libya, as they were pro-Western. Obama was in favor of the war in Afghanistan.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #28 October 28, 2012 Quote Too bad your rage didn't surface at Bush-II for murdering - murdering! - over 3,000 American service-people in the sands of Iraq, for no good Really...really? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #29 October 28, 2012 Quote Quote Quote It saddens me that this is getting little to no coverage nor discussion. When people are more concerned with voting for someone because they will provide access to free meds vs. real issues and Americans dying at the hands of religious zealots....it's just fucking embarrassing. I've reached the point where my anger is coming to the surface. It is creating the same anger issues once associated with the Vietnam POW/MIA's. As well it should, even if it's too little, and way too late. Too bad your rage didn't surface at Bush-II for murdering - murdering! - over 3,000 American service-people in the sands of Iraq, for no good reason other than to show the world that he's tougher than his daddy. At least Clinton only murdered Vince Foster. The president before Bush thought he had WMD, as did Kerry and Gore, and a whole lot of the Democratic Congress. The Russians were also convinced, despite the conflicting info. SH wanted the rest of the world to believe it, and created the intelligence that indicated that. SH even believed he had WMD, as his generals were too afraid to tell him that they hadn't been successful at obeying orders to make them. We were already at war with SH. He would shoot at our planes, we would shoot back. Do you think we should have just given up on the cease fire agreement? Some think that is what we should have done, just stop trying to enforce what stopped the first gulf war. Even Obama admitted in his book that he assumed SH had weapons of mass destruction, which means that he didn't mind. Obama doesn't mind Iran or other countries having nuclear weapons, per his own words (previous, not what he now says).People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #30 October 28, 2012 Quote Quote Too bad your rage didn't surface at Bush-II for murdering - murdering! - over 3,000 American service-people in the sands of Iraq, for no good Really...really? Really, really. If I could indict the son of a bitch in a court of law for murder, I would. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJonathan 0 #31 October 28, 2012 Along with Blair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #32 October 28, 2012 Your going to need to indict 77 more people also. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237 Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #33 October 28, 2012 QuoteYour going to need to indict 77 more people also. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237 The Bush White House were the liars. The Congress were the folks defrauded by the lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #34 October 28, 2012 Then the intel people who provided it to bush were the liars and bush was defrauded also, so find the intel folks and bring them to court! Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #35 October 28, 2012 Quote As well it should, even if it's too little, and way too late. Too bad your rage didn't surface at Bush-II for murdering - murdering! - over 3,000 American service-people in the sands of Iraq, for no good reason other than to show the world that he's tougher than his daddy. At least Clinton only murdered Vince Foster. One thing remains with me. My military friends respect(ed) President George W. Bush as well as his father. However, when Clinton or BHO are discussed there is no respect.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #36 October 28, 2012 Quote My military friends respect(ed) President George W. Bush Then they're fools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #37 October 28, 2012 QuoteQuote My military friends respect(ed) President George W. Bush Then they're fools. I'll be sure to pass that along to my friend, a retired LTC from the USSF, a two tour Vietnam veteran, former intelligence officer and instructor from the war college. Just the other day we were discussing the lack of patriotism in the skydiving community. There seems to be a strong wussifluence.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #38 October 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote My military friends respect(ed) President George W. Bush Then they're fools. I'll be sure to pass that along to my friend, a retired LTC from the USSF, a two tour Vietnam veteran, former intelligence officer and instructor from the war college. Just the other day we were discussing the lack of patriotism in the skydiving community. There seems to be a strong wussifluence. Ah, something else we learned from the Vietnam era: outing the fascists pigs for what they are (in this case, G. W. Bush and his chicken-hawk compadres), while often slandered as un-patriotic, is actually the height of true patriotism. Bill Clinton understood this. God, I love that man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #39 October 28, 2012 I guarantee you won't say that to a veterans face! Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #40 October 29, 2012 Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #41 October 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote My military friends respect(ed) President George W. Bush Then they're fools. I'll be sure to pass that along to my friend, a retired LTC from the USSF, a two tour Vietnam veteran, former intelligence officer and instructor from the war college. Just the other day we were discussing the lack of patriotism in the skydiving community. There seems to be a strong wussifluence. Ah, something else we learned from the Vietnam era: outing the fascists pigs for what they are (in this case, G. W. Bush and his chicken-hawk compadres), while often slandered as un-patriotic, is actually the height of true patriotism. Bill Clinton understood this. God, I love that man. Kennedy and Johnson were fascist pigs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #42 October 29, 2012 QuoteI guarantee you won't say that to a veterans face! I would. The veterans are the ones who pay the worst price for the lies and warmongering of the "facist pigs". And always have. The "fascist pigs" send the soldier off to fight and die and often ignore and abandon them after they return. I know a bunch of Viet Nam era vets. Many are very bitter at the way the public blamed them and treated them badly when they returned. More are far, far more bitter and angry at the government that treated them as poker chips to be used and abandoned, both here at home and those left behind as MIA/POWs. True patriotism is placing the country first. Not the government. There's a big difference."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #43 October 29, 2012 What you gain or prove from calling a veteran a fool to their face? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #44 October 29, 2012 QuoteWhat you gain or prove from calling a veteran a fool to their face? The feeling of testicles descending from the abdomen?Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJonathan 0 #45 October 29, 2012 Iraq war veteran Scott Olsen showed up in a wheelchair at yesterday's march marking the one-year anniversary of the Occupy Oakland camp raid. But this time his injury hadn't been inflicted by police: Last week he was hit by a car while riding his bike, but it was nothing serious, he told me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #46 October 29, 2012 QuoteWhat you gain or prove from calling a veteran a fool to their face? Veterans aren't stupid, thank God. Fortunately, they usually figure out that they're being used - abused, actually - as cannon fodder. The Vietnam vets figured it out then: http://www.vvaw.org/ ...and the Iraq vets figured it out, too: http://www.ivaw.org/ ... as have the Afghanistan vets: http://www.ivaw.org/afghanistan-veterans-against-war-speaking-tour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #47 October 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhat you gain or prove from calling a veteran a fool to their face? Veterans aren't stupid, thank God. Fortunately, they usually figure out that they're being used - abused, actually - as cannon fodder. The Vietnam vets figured it out then: http://www.vvaw.org/ ...and the Iraq vets figured it out, too: http://www.ivaw.org/ ... as have the Afghanistan vets: http://www.ivaw.org/afghanistan-veterans-against-war-speaking-tour I don't see how these organizations excuse BHO for letting Americans die at Benghazi. He could have ordered Spectre Gunships; they were ready to go. He could have sent in a Marine Quick Reaction Force; they were standing by. Jane Fonda, Walter Cronkite, Barrack Obama same same.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #48 October 29, 2012 It's called "distraction". Many in the legal profession use it when they don't want to discuss the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #49 October 29, 2012 QuoteIt's called "distraction". Many in the legal profession use it when they don't want to discuss the truth. Yes, and Liberals in general.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #50 October 29, 2012 More on the topic: Why the CIA is Leaking Libya: A Time Line of Heroism QuoteIt's usually the New York Times leaking insider sourced stories. Generally, responsible, conservative sources never leak. But when it comes to Benghazi, it's Fox News and their sources seem to be top of the line, committed military people. Why is this? What's changed is that military people have had enough. They know true courage when they see it, and they will not let the light of heroes be hidden under a cloak of political spin. http://www.nolanchart.com/article9928-why-the-cia-is-leaking-libya-a-time-line-of-heroism.html ETA: Benghazigate: Chapter Two http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/29/benghazigate-chapter-twoLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
