rushmc 23 #101 October 30, 2012 Quote What the hell does this have to do with Benghazi? Go back in your hole and stop trying to derail this thread. I am thinking he is one of those paid volunteers that do online support for Obama"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #102 October 30, 2012 Where does the buck stop? Your defense of Obama is pathetic. If this had been Bush, we would be hearing about it for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #103 October 30, 2012 Quote And since I'm blabbing on, I very much doubt that some of the stuff that is being thrown around regarding the Administration's response to the attack is even close to true. I can't believe that Obama was sitting in the situation room, watching live video like in a Tom Clancy movie, knowing that well armed terrorists were engaging in a planned assault, and said, "Fuck 'em, I'm going to bed." Things just don't happen like that. I would not be at all surprised to find out that the requests for assistance never even made it to the White House until it was too late. Why on Earth, if the White House knew what was happening, would he not respond? If response were so easy as claimed by some, why wasn't a response made by the local commander? The anti-Obama narrative has as many holes in it as the pro-Obama narrative. So far everyone I've heard with actual experience in the situation room or has had connections to those in the situation room has unequivocally stated that a request for help from a consulate or embassy would get to the president in minutes. There is no way BHO was not made aware in real time.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #104 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuote And, that would be in California, right. Many, but actually I am from Georgia. From your profile I thought California. I spent my last 20 years or so in the social services. The women in power positions were in fact CEO's, managers, etc. They were interested in their communities and their families. However, the majority were staunch feminists, married without children but, many were single mothers. These women all shared one thing in common. They did not like masculine authority or power in any form. In other words, they were castrating females. I sure that everyone of them will vote for BHO. Where in GA are you? I know GeorgiaDon is a strong liberal and I assume he is in Athens. I am in Hiawassee and I have yet to find a BHO supporter, of either gender, up here,Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #105 October 30, 2012 QuoteSo far everyone I've heard with actual experience in the situation room or has had connections to those in the situation room has unequivocally stated that a request for help from a consulate or embassy would get to the president in minutes. Who are these people? Anonymous callers to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? Can you give any names or sources? The timeline is still unclear, and anyone who claims it isn't and they know exectly what happened is full of it. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #106 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteSo far everyone I've heard with actual experience in the situation room or has had connections to those in the situation room has unequivocally stated that a request for help from a consulate or embassy would get to the president in minutes. Who are these people? Anonymous callers to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? Can you give any names or sources? The timeline is still unclear, and anyone who claims it isn't and they know exectly what happened is full of it. Dude the emails have been released as well as other info You need to get more news sources cause the ones (the few) you use are helping you embaras yourself"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #107 October 30, 2012 Quote Dude the emails have been released Dude, the emails realesed to date have nothingt o do regarding the timeline of distress signals and presidential notifications. They were sent 2 hours after the incident and relayed that a group had claimed responsibility. You need to get more news sources cause the ones (the few) you use are helping you embaras yourself *** lol, isn't that the truth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #108 October 30, 2012 Quote Quote Dude the emails have been released Dude, the emails realesed to date have nothingt o do regarding the timeline of distress signals and presidential notifications. They were sent 2 hours after the incident and relayed that a group had claimed responsibility. You need to get more news sources cause the ones (the few) you use are helping you embaras yourself *** lol, isn't that the truth No content like normal"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #109 October 30, 2012 Prove me wrong Find me released emails regarding when the Presidnt was notified of the attack and emails regarding how he responded. Like normal you will come back with nothing and post one liners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #110 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteSo far everyone I've heard with actual experience in the situation room or has had connections to those in the situation room has unequivocally stated that a request for help from a consulate or embassy would get to the president in minutes. Who are these people? Anonymous callers to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? Can you give any names or sources? The timeline is still unclear, and anyone who claims it isn't and they know exectly what happened is full of it. KT Mcfarland is the one I specifically recall. Yesterday I spent a couple hours listening to and watching different consultants, former CIA and military. Also, several interviews with Mr. Charles Woods, attorney and father of Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, KIA. Another, Tony Shaffer, LTC US Army, Ret. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/retired-lt-col-my-sources-say-obama-was-in-the-room-watching-benghazi-attack-happen/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #111 October 30, 2012 Quote Prove me wrong Find me released emails regarding when the Presidnt was notified of the attack and emails regarding how he responded. Like normal you will come back with nothing and post one liners. Just conside this [url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444868204578062420490836106.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #112 October 30, 2012 Uhmm, there are no released emails in the article. Nor any that relate top when the President was notified, or any confirmation that he just went to bed, or anything of that nature. Want to try again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #113 October 30, 2012 QuoteUhmm, there are no released emails in the article. Nor any that relate top when the President was notified, or any confirmation that he just went to bed, or anything of that nature. Want to try again? You might want to try following Senators Graham and McCain. They are on the trail. http://www.goupstate.com/article/20121029/ARTICLES/121029659Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #114 October 30, 2012 Honestly, I don't care if they call it a terrorist attack or not. It is by far the stupidest argument. Nor do I believe that somebody claiming responsibility makes it true either. I am interested in if a distress signal was received and purposely ignored resulting in the deaths of 4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleGobble 0 #115 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat you gain or prove from calling a veteran a fool to their face? Veterans aren't stupid, thank God. Fortunately, they usually figure out that they're being used - abused, actually - as cannon fodder. The Vietnam vets figured it out then: http://www.vvaw.org/ ...and the Iraq vets figured it out, too: http://www.ivaw.org/ ... as have the Afghanistan vets: http://www.ivaw.org/afghanistan-veterans-against-war-speaking-tour I don't see how these organizations excuse BHO for letting Americans die at Benghazi. He could have ordered Spectre Gunships; they were ready to go. He could have sent in a Marine Quick Reaction Force; they were standing by. Jane Fonda, Walter Cronkite, Barrack Obama same same. Let me get this straight you are saying that everyone onsite at the embassy and secondary location were armed terrorists? If so sure. If not there is no way in hell CAS would be authorized due to the huge civilian casulties that would result. I know what the hell I'm talking about. I'm not a huge fan of Obama, take it or leave it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #116 October 30, 2012 Quote Let me get this straight you are saying that everyone onsite at the embassy and secondary location were armed terrorists? If so sure. If not there is no way in hell CAS would be authorized due to the huge civilian casulties that would result. I know what the hell I'm talking about. I'm not a huge fan of Obama, take it or leave it. Latest reports indicate that Woods and Doherty had IR lasers on the targets when they were requesting assistance. The assumption is that Spectre was on station.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #117 October 30, 2012 Quote“When it's convenient for this administration, they leak reams of classified information when it makes them look good,” said Graham, who serves on the congressional armed services committee. “When you look at what they leaked after bin Laden's raid, the underwear bomber in Yemen — they did all of that on purpose since the were successful operations.” Graham, who visited the consulate in Benghazi in September 2011, called it a “death trap” and said he petitioned then to have it closed. The British closed their consulate and the American Red Cross closed their offices after attacks in April and June. Americans should have done the same, he said.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleGobble 0 #118 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuote Let me get this straight you are saying that everyone onsite at the embassy and secondary location were armed terrorists? If so sure. If not there is no way in hell CAS would be authorized due to the huge civilian casulties that would result. I know what the hell I'm talking about. I'm not a huge fan of Obama, take it or leave it. Latest reports indicate that Woods and Doherty had IR lasers on the targets when they were requesting assistance. The assumption is that Spectre was on station. Likely the IR lasers they had were rifle mounted PEQs. Commenting beyond that isn't prudent given that so much ISN'T known. Without knowing ranges, density of civilian/bad guys present on the ground the fact that an AC-130 *might* have been on station doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #119 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote Let me get this straight you are saying that everyone onsite at the embassy and secondary location were armed terrorists? If so sure. If not there is no way in hell CAS would be authorized due to the huge civilian casulties that would result. I know what the hell I'm talking about. I'm not a huge fan of Obama, take it or leave it. Latest reports indicate that Woods and Doherty had IR lasers on the targets when they were requesting assistance. The assumption is that Spectre was on station. Likely the IR lasers they had were rifle mounted PEQs. Commenting beyond that isn't prudent given that so much ISN'T known. Without knowing ranges, density of civilian/bad guys present on the ground the fact that an AC-130 *might* have been on station doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot. Roger that. Standingby in slow burn mode.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #120 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote And, that would be in California, right. Many, but actually I am from Georgia. From your profile I thought California. I spent my last 20 years or so in the social services. The women in power positions were in fact CEO's, managers, etc. They were interested in their communities and their families. However, the majority were staunch feminists, married without children but, many were single mothers. These women all shared one thing in common. They did not like masculine authority or power in any form. In other words, they were castrating females. I sure that everyone of them will vote for BHO. Where in GA are you? I know GeorgiaDon is a strong liberal and I assume he is in Athens. I am in Hiawassee and I have yet to find a BHO supporter, of either gender, up here, I'm from Georgia, now in California. I have a house 35 miles south of Atlanta. Maybe I've met some "castrating females," but I can't bring any to mind. Maybe that is a function of the male involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #121 October 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote And, that would be in California, right. Many, but actually I am from Georgia. From your profile I thought California. I spent my last 20 years or so in the social services. The women in power positions were in fact CEO's, managers, etc. They were interested in their communities and their families. However, the majority were staunch feminists, married without children but, many were single mothers. These women all shared one thing in common. They did not like masculine authority or power in any form. In other words, they were castrating females. I sure that everyone of them will vote for BHO. Where in GA are you? I know GeorgiaDon is a strong liberal and I assume he is in Athens. I am in Hiawassee and I have yet to find a BHO supporter, of either gender, up here, I'm from Georgia, now in California. I have a house 35 miles south of Atlanta. Maybe I've met some "castrating females," but I can't bring any to mind. Maybe that is a function of the male involved. OK, then my initial assumption was accurate. As to your second statement, yeah, probably so.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #122 October 30, 2012 http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/us/libya-benghazi-e-mails/index.html QuoteThe first one, sent at 4:05 p.m. ET, or 10:05 p.m. in Libya, described a diplomatic mission under attack. "Approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well," the e-mail said. Stevens and four other mission staff were in the compound safe haven, it added The emails are out there, scanned or screenshotted. Also out there are the 40ish pages of emails requesting pre attack support at the embassy. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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RonD1120 62 #124 October 31, 2012 Quotehttp://www.investors.com/image/RAMclr-103012-standdown-IBD.jpg +1Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #125 October 31, 2012 Quote Honestly, I don't care if they call it a terrorist attack or not. It is by far the stupidest argument. Nor do I believe that somebody claiming responsibility makes it true either. I am interested in if a distress signal was received and purposely ignored resulting in the deaths of 4. Now your story line changes "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
