More on BHO & Benghazi

[RonD1120 62]

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Sadly most of the country has lost interest and doesn't care.

The Normalcy Bias comes into play.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias

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[Gravitymaster 0]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/benghazi_penalties_are_bogus_ncP7RZx5uTIgDPbTp5WtoN?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

The four officials supposedly out of jobs because of their blunders in the run-up to the deadly Benghazi terror attack remain on the State Department payroll — and will all be back to work soon, The Post has learned.

The highest-ranking official caught up in the scandal, Assistant Secretary of State Eric Boswell, has not “resigned” from government service, as officials said last week. He is just switching desks. And the other three are simply on administrative leave and are expected back.

The four were made out to be sacrificial lambs in the wake of a scathing report issued last week that found that the US compound in Benghazi, Libya, was left vulnerable to attack because of “grossly inadequate” security.



State Department leaders “didn’t come clean about Benghazi and now they’re not coming clean about these staff changes,” a source close to the situation told The Post., adding, the “public would be outraged over this.”

US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Sept. 11 attack, originally blamed on a spontaneous demonstration against a US-made anti-Islam video that got out of hand.

That version was dismissed by an Accountability Review Board headed by retired Ambassador Thomas Pickering.

In response to questions from The Post, the State Department would only reissue the carefully crafted statement put out last week.

Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton “has accepted Eric Boswell’s decision to resign as assistant secretary for diplomatic security, effective immediately.” What Nuland omitted was that Boswell gave up only the presidential appointment as assistant secretary, not his other portfolios.

The other officials — Deputy Assistant Secretaries Charlene Lamb and Raymond Maxwell, and a third who has not been identified — were found to have shown “performance inadequacies” but not “willful misconduct,” Pickering said, so they would not face discipline.

House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) told The Post this is “yet another ruse about the tragedy of Benghazi.”

“State Department officials proclaimed . . . that heads would roll . . . Now we see that the discipline is a lie and all that has happened is the shuffling of the deck chairs.”

[turtlespeed 220]

Sounds about right . . . SOP for the Obamanation Administration.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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Dis Hillary ever recover from her "concussion"?

No, she's now in the "hospital" with a "blood clot" near her brain. Wink wink, nudge nudge.

[RonD1120 62]

Finally, the report on what we knew to be true.

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“The President, as Commander-in-Chief, failed to proactively anticipate the significance of September 11 and provide the Department of Defense with the authority to launch offensive operations beyond self-defense.” DOD assets were available to be deployed and would have reached Benghazi within hours; but there was no heightened level of readiness, and no military support was not dispatched during the nearly 13-hour attack."

“The Administration willfully perpetuated a deliberately misleading and incomplete narrative that the attacks evolved from a political demonstration caused by a YouTube video.” There were no protests at Benghazi prior to the terrorist attack and the administration tried to quell talk that al-Qaeda may have been involved."

"It is particularly sad that Democrats did not feel the need to add their input into the investigation, because national security matters entailing the death of an ambassador, a diplomat and two security personnel should not be a partisan matter."

Link to source:

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/04/48346-house-report-on-benghazi-attacks-former-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-failed-to-act/

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[kallend 2,027]

"Interim Report for the House REPUBLICAN Conference"

Well, there's an unbiased source of information for you.

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[Kennedy 0]

Some of the most astute observations I've ever heard were from patients at a secure mental health facility. Point if view doesn't make statement wrong. Being wrong makes them wrong. Would you care to refute the content, or is today another "ad hominem and avoid the issue" day for you?

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[Stumpy 284]

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patients at a secure mental health facility.

We still talking about the house republican conference?

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[Kennedy 0]

That place is not a secure facility. They can come and go as they please.
But my point stands: an accurate statement is no less accurate if said by a fool or a liar. If you cannot refute the statement, why bother attacking the speaker?

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[Stumpy 284]

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The results of an investigation into the events prior, during and after the terrorist attack were released by five representatives, all Republicans: Howard McKeon, Ed Royce, Bob Goodlatte, Darrell Issa, and Mike Rogers.

That instantly discredits any findings, as the republicans have an agenda that is essentially "make the president look bad". The statement might be accurate however its far more likely biased the other way.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

So in your learned experience, the entire report is bullshit, the President, the State Department, and US Intelligence did nothing wrong and this is just a plot dreamed up by Republicans to make the President look bad. Is that what you you are trying to say?

[mistercwood 287]

Well, we are talking about a party that went on public record - from the second Obama was elected - to being dedicated to making him a one term president. As Stumpy said, doesn't make these guys wrong, just clarifies they have a serious axe to grind...

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[Andy9o8 2]

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So in your learned experience, the entire report is bullshit, the President, the State Department, and US Intelligence did nothing wrong and this is just a plot dreamed up by Republicans to make the President look bad. Is that what you you are trying to say?

No, what he's trying to say is what he said, not what you're trying to say he's trying to say. If he was trying to say that, he'd have said it.

Not letting the other person twist your words so they can bash the twisted version is a core survival skill every married man needs to have. Just putting that out there.

[mistercwood 287]

And this is the reason I'm going to publicly stick to as to why I'm still single...

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[Andy9o8 2]

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And this is the reason I'm going to publicly stick to as to why I'm still single...

So you can't sustain a relationship because you degrade the dignity of women. Is that what you're trying to say?

[mistercwood 287]

Yes. Excuse me while I cry myself to sleep...

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[Gravitymaster 0]

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That instantly discredits any findings, as the republicans have an agenda that is essentially "make the president look bad"

[Andy9o8 2]

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That instantly discredits any findings, as the republicans have an agenda that is essentially "make the president look bad"

Should he better have said "purported findings"? Whatever.
In any event, you need to understand the meaning of the term "findings". It simply means a given person's or group's conclusions as to what they believe the facts are, when viewing evidence through their own particular lens. It does not remotely suggest a lack of bias, either in the process of choosing what evidence to cherry-pick and what to ignore, or in the process of what factual conclusion should be drawn.

[turtlespeed 220]

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"Interim Report for the House REPUBLICAN Conference"

Well, there's an unbiased source of information for you.

Does that make it incorrect?

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[Kennedy 0]

I asked him that more than twelve hours ago. Either he's really busy and hasn't been back to dz.com, or he's waiting for the talking points to come out so he has something to say about the content without having to actually read it.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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In Reply To:
"Interim Report for the House REPUBLICAN Conference"

Well, there's an unbiased source of information for you.



Does that make it incorrect?

How much time would you spend reading a physics lecture from the Flat Earth Society? Or maybe that lecture from the Westboro Church on "How to take the moral high ground"? I mean both might make some valid points.

[turtlespeed 220]

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In Reply To:
"Interim Report for the House REPUBLICAN Conference"

Well, there's an unbiased source of information for you.



Does that make it incorrect?

How much time would you spend reading a physics lecture from the Flat Earth Society? Or maybe that lecture from the Westboro Church on "How to take the moral high ground"? I mean both might make some valid points.

I usually think that you have valid points, but this last was just utterly ridiculous. I hear the sarcasm, but know its not truly sarcasm.

If what you say is the case, then any media outlet is the same as WBC.

The AHCA has less facts and more fantasy. Maybe we should be comparing that bit of paper to the flast earth society, or maybe the flying spagetti monster, eh?

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

All I am trying to say is that when it comes to reports it is entirely normal to take into account who the writers are. Everybody has a bias and it will show through in most, if not all reporting.

I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest there is likely a fair bit of bias in a report written by Republicans on how a Democrat handled a situation.

Might they be right on some points? Maybe, but I wouldn't be overly inclined to take it as gospel. There is no way of knowing what evidence was ignored, how stories were skewed etc.

[RonD1120 62]

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All I am trying to say is that when it comes to reports it is entirely normal to take into account who the writers are. Everybody has a bias and it will show through in most, if not all reporting.

I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest there is likely a fair bit of bias in a report written by Republicans on how a Democrat handled a situation.

Might they be right on some points? Maybe, but I wouldn't be overly inclined to take it as gospel. There is no way of knowing what evidence was ignored, how stories were skewed etc.

The continuing and mounting disgust with BHO and his administration is exemplified by the fact that they chose not to participate in the report even though invited to do so.

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[airdvr 210]

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All I am trying to say is that when it comes to reports it is entirely normal to take into account who the writers are. Everybody has a bias and it will show through in most, if not all reporting.

I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest there is likely a fair bit of bias in a report written by Republicans on how a Democrat handled a situation.

Might they be right on some points? Maybe, but I wouldn't be overly inclined to take it as gospel. There is no way of knowing what evidence was ignored, how stories were skewed etc.

The report gains some traction when it is reported the Dems were invited to participate and chose not to.

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