More on BHO & Benghazi

[grimmie 186]

This is a good read. I never bought the entire "babies in incubators" story back then.

http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html

[billvon 2,991]

>Where did they go, and who got VERIFIED evidence they were all destroyed?

The UN inspection teams. They were in the process of actually getting the verified evidence, and thus we invaded. Otherwise he would have lost his justification for a war he desperately wanted.

[cvfd1399 0]

So you are saying you have no VERIFIED proof that WMD was not present is that correct.

[billvon 2,991]

>So you are saying you have no VERIFIED proof that WMD was not present is
>that correct.

We have verified proof. See below.
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CIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq
Recommends freeing detainees held for weapons knowledge

updated 4/25/2005 9:24:44 PM ET

WASHINGTON — In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.
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If we had completed the inspections before the war, though, Bush would have lost his primary justification, and thus would have been unable to support the political agenda outlined in the PNAC. Thus he accelerated the timetable to ensure that we would not complete the inspections before the war.

[jakee 1,490]

cvfd1399

So you are saying you have no VERIFIED proof that WMD was not present is that correct.

What does VERIFIED mean? VERIFIED by who? Just finding out where the goal posts are here...

(BTW, you've gone awful quiet in the cop thread. I'm still waiting for an answer...)

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Amazon 7]

jakee

***So you are saying you have no VERIFIED proof that WMD was not present is that correct.

What does VERIFIED mean? VERIFIED by who? Just finding out where the goal posts are here...

(BTW, you've gone awful quiet in the cop thread. I'm still waiting for an answer...)

I think it would take Karl Rove on FAUX News to VERIFY it for some people to actually see it.

[RonD1120 62]

And, if responsible individuals in powerful advisory positions would have investigated thoroughly the Gulf of Tonkin incident LBJ would not have had the justification to "hang that coon's tail" on his wall.

However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[airdvr 210]

billvon

>So you are saying you have no VERIFIED proof that WMD was not present is
>that correct.

We have verified proof. See below.
=============================
CIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq
Recommends freeing detainees held for weapons knowledge

updated 4/25/2005 9:24:44 PM ET

WASHINGTON — In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.
==============================

If we had completed the inspections before the war, though, Bush would have lost his primary justification, and thus would have been unable to support the political agenda outlined in the PNAC. Thus he accelerated the timetable to ensure that we would not complete the inspections before the war.

I can verify that the trained attack pit bull my neighbor has isn't a threat today. If I had illegal substances in my home and the cops called and said they'd like to stop by and take a look, say Monday around 3pm, what do you think I might do with those substances?

Point being I could bury that contraband in my backyard and they'd never be able to find it. You can only verify that something isn't where you thought it might be and you were unable to find it anywhere else.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[winsor 236]

RonD1120

And, if responsible individuals in powerful advisory positions would have investigated thoroughly the Gulf of Tonkin incident LBJ would not have had the justification to "hang that coon's tail" on his wall.

However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

President Biden! Yay!

[SkyDekker 1,465]

airdvr

***>So you are saying you have no VERIFIED proof that WMD was not present is
>that correct.

We have verified proof. See below.
=============================
CIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq
Recommends freeing detainees held for weapons knowledge

updated 4/25/2005 9:24:44 PM ET

WASHINGTON — In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.
==============================

If we had completed the inspections before the war, though, Bush would have lost his primary justification, and thus would have been unable to support the political agenda outlined in the PNAC. Thus he accelerated the timetable to ensure that we would not complete the inspections before the war.

I can verify that the trained attack pit bull my neighbor has isn't a threat today. If I had illegal substances in my home and the cops called and said they'd like to stop by and take a look, say Monday around 3pm, what do you think I might do with those substances?

Point being I could bury that contraband in my backyard and they'd never be able to find it. You can only verify that something isn't where you thought it might be and you were unable to find it anywhere else.

I can verify now that legal gun owners aren't a threat today, but they may use their guns illegally tomorrow. Clearly all guns should be confiscated.

[Amazon 7]

RonD1120

And, if responsible individuals in powerful advisory positions would have investigated thoroughly the Gulf of Tonkin incident LBJ would not have had the justification to "hang that coon's tail" on his wall.

However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Oh Lord Please let some of these rumours be hung around those I do not like.

[cvfd1399 0]

Amazon

***And, if responsible individuals in powerful advisory positions would have investigated thoroughly the Gulf of Tonkin incident LBJ would not have had the justification to "hang that coon's tail" on his wall.

However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Oh Lord Please let some of these rumours be hung around those I do not like.

Seems to me your wishing ill judgement upon others.

[Amazon 7]

cvfd1399

******And, if responsible individuals in powerful advisory positions would have investigated thoroughly the Gulf of Tonkin incident LBJ would not have had the justification to "hang that coon's tail" on his wall.

However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Oh Lord Please let some of these rumours be hung around those I do not like.

Seems to me your wishing ill judgement upon others.

And your Seems is wrong yet again..

I was pointing out to all those who don't like the black guy and purport to be good christians that perhaps the Lord might have a different view.. and his dad has a thing about false witness too.

[cvfd1399 0]

Right

[DanG 1]

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However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

For argument's sake, let's assume that they lied like you claim. Their lie was after the four men were already dead, and it had to do with the cause of the attack. You think that should be an impeachable offense.

But you're okay with Bush and Cheney's lies before the Iraq invasion which led to American deaths because it satisfies your desire for vengence against people who had nothing to do with 9/11.

Do you really not see the hypocrisy?

- Dan G

[Amazon 7]

cvfd1399

Right

Why don't you send that to all your local churches down there in the Bible Belt not that they are filled with all that many actual Christians but social Christians.

[cvfd1399 0]

Once again I am AGNOSTIC. Please look it up.

[rushmc 23]

cvfd1399

******And, if responsible individuals in powerful advisory positions would have investigated thoroughly the Gulf of Tonkin incident LBJ would not have had the justification to "hang that coon's tail" on his wall.

However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Oh Lord Please let some of these rumours be hung around those I do not like.

Seems to me your wishing ill judgement upon others.

You should see her PM threats!!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

rushmc

*********And, if responsible individuals in powerful advisory positions would have investigated thoroughly the Gulf of Tonkin incident LBJ would not have had the justification to "hang that coon's tail" on his wall.

However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Oh Lord Please let some of these rumours be hung around those I do not like.

Seems to me your wishing ill judgement upon others.

You should see her PM threats!!!

Get right with the Lord...... is a threat????


Again I think some of your "positions" might not quite fall into what the Lord actually taught.

[billvon 2,991]

>Point being I could bury that contraband in my backyard and they'd never be able to
>find it. You can only verify that something isn't where you thought it might be and you
>were unable to find it anywhere else.

True. And there's no way we can verify that Bush was not behind 9/11. In fact a lot of people believe that. It's just very unlikely.

The best information we have, provided both by our CIA and the UN inspection teams, is that Saddam Hussein had no WMD's at the beginning of the war.

[billvon 2,991]

>However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at
>Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Of course. Meanwhile, Bush's incompetence led to 3000 US civilians dying, and he lied about the evidence that he used to justify the Iraq war, in which 4000 American soldiers died.

So Obama's 4 deaths on his watch means he is unfit to lead. Bush's 7000 deaths mean he is an American hero who should be re-elected. Right wing logic at its finest.

[Coreeece 2]

billvon

Saddam Hussein had no WMD's at the beginning of the war.

Maybe that was a good thing...

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>However, we have evidence that BHO and HC lied about the American deaths at
>Benghazi and that is justification to remove from and deny future power to them.

Of course. Meanwhile, Bush's incompetence led to 3000 US civilians dying, and he lied about the evidence that he used to justify the Iraq war, in which 4000 American soldiers died.

So Obama's 4 deaths on his watch means he is unfit to lead. Bush's 7000 deaths mean he is an American hero who should be re-elected. Right wing logic at its finest.

Now you post the Bush lied bull shit??

Shameful

funny
But shameful

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,490]

airdvr

I can verify that the trained attack pit bull my neighbor has isn't a threat today. If I had illegal substances in my home and the cops called and said they'd like to stop by and take a look, say Monday around 3pm, what do you think I might do with those substances?

Point being I could bury that contraband in my backyard and they'd never be able to find it. You can only verify that something isn't where you thought it might be and you were unable to find it anywhere else.

Sounds like another flaw in the Gulf War 1 mission that was so effectively carried out. Why make a ceasefire conditional on removing weapons if you know you have no way of finding out if the weapons are removed?

(Of course, outside of the philosophical problem of proving the absence of a thing, it did of course turn out that UN inspectors were right, and there were no weapons. So they probably knew what they were doing and were at least slightly cleverer than you give them credit for.)

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 2,991]

>Now you post the Bush lied bull shit??

Yep, because he did.

Now you can start the standard RushMC twist:

BVN:Bush lied.
R:No he didn't!
BVN:Here's the proof.
R:But . . . but . . . . they were just untrue and misleading statements, not lies. Besides, democrats lied too!

So we will just skip all that and assume you've said it again. Yes, other people lied too. Obama lied. So far his lies were to try to cover up 4 American deaths. Bush lied. His lies led to 4000 American deaths.