More on BHO & Benghazi

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kallend

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There may have to be a lot of cuts, but in any event, I think schooling and medical assistance should be the only priority....

All northbound lanes of I-65 in Indiana are closed for at least a month following a partial bridge collapse due to deferred maintenance. The detour adds 30 minutes to travel time for all traffic between Indianapolis, Louisville (and points south and southeast) and Chicago, Milwaukee (and all points north).

This is just one of many many examples of ill-conceived cutbacks in infrastructure that adversely affect the US economy.

Failure to maintain our infrastructure is a result of short sighted taxcutting with long term ramifications.

Dwight D. Eisenhower would rotate in his grave if he knew how his party has so fucked-up the highway system that bears his name.

Do what we can I guess...but something tells me that if things don't change, bad roads will be the least of our problems...

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[Amazon 7]

billvon

>Why not just agree and say "ya....the guys a fucking asshole, but people like him!"

OK. "Ya, the guy's an obnoxious reality TV star, but people like him."

And also Reagan the Actor played the President... not real good portrayal because look how many of his minions were out of control running cute little ops all over the world.... but many of the followers of Saint Reagan still beatified him


Its what they do...

[Anvilbrother 0]

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Well, if four years of pain could make the US a better place for their kids, it might be worth it.

Obviously you are not in the circles I am but the last 6+ years have been the worst for us. Cost of everything went up, wages went down, job instability, etc ,etc ,etc.

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[Amazon 7]

Anvilbrother

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Well, if four years of pain could make the US a better place for their kids, it might be worth it.

Obviously you are not in the circles I am but the last 6+ years have been the worst for us. Cost of everything went up, wages went down, job instability, etc ,etc ,etc.

SOOOO do not elect racist pieces of shit to congress who sought to block everything the black guy tried to do from day one.... but still managed to get more done than his predecessor who claimed to be the good guy in the "White Hat" who wanted to play sheriff to the world with other peoples lives in his little fantasy Texican cowboy world.

[billvon 2,991]

>Obviously you are not in the circles I am but the last 6+ years have been the
>worst for us.

Yep, even though most of those six years were during an economic recovery. And yet we are still clamoring for lower taxes and more spending and still playing the partisan politics game. We may need to see some _real_ pain as a country before we change our ways.

[Anvilbrother 0]

The CPI has risen more than our cost of living increase. Combine that with higher insurance premiums and everyone at work has brought home less money per year than the previous year for the last like 5 years. Everyone is sick and tired of being sick and tired. I know times have been worse decades ago, so I'm not complaining too bad but damn we gotta get this shit together.

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[billvon 2,991]

>Everyone is sick and tired of being sick and tired. I know times have been
> worse decades ago, so I'm not complaining too bad but damn we gotta get
>this shit together.

Agreed. But the president has very little to do with the economy. He can, however, do great damage to a country in many other ways. And maybe we have to see that damage actually happen before we start taking our responsibilities as voters more seriously.

[Anvilbrother 0]

I am going to flat out disagree with the first part and agree with the end.

Just like mass cutting of taxes can make you fall short(GOP) bailouts and giving away money(DEM) both can put you in the hole. Sometimes they can be the person directly making it happen, other times it is their agenda. A mission that is carried out by the other levels of governement under their order or implied/expressed wishes.

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[normiss 801]

Yahtzee!

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>Obviously you are not in the circles I am but the last 6+ years have been the
>worst for us.

Yep, even though most of those six years were during an economic recovery. And yet we are still clamoring for lower taxes and more spending and still playing the partisan politics game. We may need to see some _real_ pain as a country before we change our ways.

We are not in a recovery

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

***>Obviously you are not in the circles I am but the last 6+ years have been the
>worst for us.

Yep, even though most of those six years were during an economic recovery. And yet we are still clamoring for lower taxes and more spending and still playing the partisan politics game. We may need to see some _real_ pain as a country before we change our ways.

We are not in a recovery

That may well be true in Looking Glass Land.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

******>Obviously you are not in the circles I am but the last 6+ years have been the
>worst for us.

Yep, even though most of those six years were during an economic recovery. And yet we are still clamoring for lower taxes and more spending and still playing the partisan politics game. We may need to see some _real_ pain as a country before we change our ways.

We are not in a recovery

You are looking to buy a bridge?

That may well be true in Looking Glass Land.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 801]

What will it take for you to accept facts of reality?

[rushmc 23]

normiss

What will it take for you to accept facts of reality?

You bidding against kallend?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 801]

As usual, you make no sense.

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

***What will it take for you to accept facts of reality?

You bidding against kallend?

The Bush recession ran from December 2007 to June 2009. There has not been a recession since.

GDP is up.

The stock market is way up.

There are more people employed now than ever before.

www.nber.org/cycles.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

******What will it take for you to accept facts of reality?

You bidding against kallend?

The Bush recession ran from December 2007 to June 2009. There has not been a recession since.

GDP is up.

The stock market is way up.

There are more people employed now than ever before.

www.nber.org/cycles.html

Fed money pumping con not go on forever

More people out of the work force since www2

Blacks and teens at highest unemployment levels

Wage desparity growing

Less people in the middle class

Wages sinking

If this is a recovery I do not want to see what you would call a recession

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

*********What will it take for you to accept facts of reality?

You bidding against kallend?

The Bush recession ran from December 2007 to June 2009. There has not been a recession since.

GDP is up.

The stock market is way up.

There are more people employed now than ever before.

www.nber.org/cycles.html

Fed money pumping con not go on forever

More people out of the work force since www2

Blacks and teens at highest unemployment levels

Wage desparity growing

Less people in the middle class

Wages sinking

If this is a recovery I do not want to see what you would call a recession

There are extablished definitions for things like recession. I appreciate you would rather go by thruthiness that you can feel in your belly, but that still doesn't change facts.

[rushmc 23]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/10/11/obamas-real-unemployment-rate-is-14-7-and-a-recessions-on-the-way/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Yes

And they are bastardized to be used as a political tool

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jclalor 12]

rushmc

*********What will it take for you to accept facts of reality?

You bidding against kallend?

The Bush recession ran from December 2007 to June 2009. There has not been a recession since.

GDP is up.

The stock market is way up.

There are more people employed now than ever before.

www.nber.org/cycles.html

Fed money pumping con not go on forever

More people out of the work force since www2

Blacks and teens at highest unemployment levels

Wage desparity growing

Less people in the middle class

Wages sinking

If this is a recovery I do not want to see what you would call a recession

But I thought the Bush tax cuts would enable the "job creators" to put all that extra cash into the the labor force? While it's true the middle class is shrinking and wages are stagnant, corporate America is putting a shitload of cash in the bank while at the same time paying less and giving shittier benifits.

Who would of ever thought that spending hundreds of billions of dollars on wars, while giving huge tax cuts to the wealthiest 1%, could ever have a down side?

[normiss 801]

Cars (many manufacturers are seeing double digit increases from previous year), RV's (40 year high this year), boats (10-12% over same period last year), and motorcycles (up over 8% from previous year) are flying off the lots so fast manufacturers can hardly keep up production.
People feel pretty comfortable to do that.
Overall, durable goods are up.

Economic snapshot

The upcoming rate hike should speak volumes, I expect to most of us, it does.
Of course, some here will tell you the world ends next month, so it won't matter.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Yes

And they are bastardized to be used as a political tool

Which is exactly what you are doing.

You want to claim we are in a recession now, show the parameters of a recession and provide the data.

Problem is, you can't.

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

Blacks and teens at highest unemployment levels

Wage desparity (sic) growing

Less (sic) people in the middle class

Wages sinking

So you'll vote for Bernie Sanders, then.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Amazon 7]

kallend

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Blacks and teens at highest unemployment levels

Wage desparity (sic) growing

Less (sic) people in the middle class

Wages sinking

So you'll vote for Bernie Sanders, then.

I am pretty sure that could never happen since Bernie does not have the appropriate Trademark symbol next to his name.

GO TEAM (R).. rah rah rah.... fight fight fight... rah rah rah

Send all the (D) librul TAKERS to reeducation camps and make them read Ayn Rands books 18 hours a day... Up the Oligharchy....