"Occupy has been successful...for one very simple reason; they are right"
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Kennedy 0
I liked you better as dreamdancer, Rhys, and other names that were short or had obvious abbreviations. I won't use Jon, too much chance of misunderstanding. I'm going to stick with the common decision to keep calling you DD. You still post goofy threads without any support. It's kinda funny and kinda sad. If I spent more time on your BS its be kinda bothersome. That is all. Troll on, troller. Troll on.
(It's too bad they have such good wifi available for free under bridges these days)
(It's too bad they have such good wifi available for free under bridges these days)
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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I count that as just another PA. Calm down and get used to the fact that Occupy have been pretty successfull in their first year. Unlike the Tea Party they got Obama re-elected. Now to build on that good work.
Quote...Unlike the Tea Party they got Obama re-elected. ...
Surely you are joking. You can't possibly believe that...do you?
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteI liked you better as dreamdancer, Rhys, and other names that were short or had obvious abbreviations. I won't use Jon, too much chance of misunderstanding. I'm going to stick with the common decision to keep calling you DD. You still post goofy threads without any support. It's kinda funny and kinda sad. If I spent more time on your BS its be kinda bothersome. That is all. Troll on, troller. Troll on.
(It's too bad they have such good wifi available for free under bridges these days)
Then why do we respond to him? I thought that by doing so only 'fed' them?
Chuck
Kennedy 0
Sometimes it's an interesting mental exercise. Sometimes a post is just so nuts that it feels good to challenge it (even if filling that "feel good" is ultimately self destructive). And sometimes you just want to see how freaking nuts someone really is. The complete inability to form logical or persuasive arguments or provide even the most basic evidence is really entertaining - then it gets old and we call them on trolling, even if we have been sort of trolling them back just by replying. 
DD, CD, SJ, whatever name you pick next, you're a troll, your posts are sad, and you really are the court jester of SC. masterrig, you know you're right, and we do too, but sometimes it's just something you're gonna do, whether you should or not.
witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
1*
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
1*
Calm down. Now that Occupy has got Obama back in power we can get to the red meat of the deal. He'd better deliver this time around.
I see what you're saying. In thinking about it, it is fun at times to prod them, goad them and just 'play' with them. The trick is, avoiding saying something that could back-fire and get you banned, Then, it just gets boring and you move-on. 
Chuck
QuoteCalm down. Now that Occupy has got Obama back in power we can get to the red meat of the deal. He'd better deliver this time around.
You keep misspelling David Axelrod's name. He never factored Occupy in, they had no impact. He saw them as a none factor, either way. He made the POTUS' re-election plan, and executed it nicely.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
AS PROTESTS against financial power sweep the world this week, science may have confirmed the protesters' worst fears. An analysis of the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations has identified a relatively small group of companies, mainly banks, with disproportionate power over the global economy.
The work, to be published in PLoS One, revealed a core of 1318 companies with interlocking ownerships (see image). Each of the 1318 had ties to two or more other companies, and on average they were connected to 20. What's more, although they represented 20 per cent of global operating revenues, the 1318 appeared to collectively own through their shares the majority of the world's large blue chip and manufacturing firms - the "real" economy - representing a further 60 per cent of global revenues.
When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a "super-entity" of 147 even more tightly knit companies - all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity - that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. "In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network," says Glattfelder. Most were financial institutions. The top 20 included Barclays Bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and The Goldman Sachs Group.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html
The work, to be published in PLoS One, revealed a core of 1318 companies with interlocking ownerships (see image). Each of the 1318 had ties to two or more other companies, and on average they were connected to 20. What's more, although they represented 20 per cent of global operating revenues, the 1318 appeared to collectively own through their shares the majority of the world's large blue chip and manufacturing firms - the "real" economy - representing a further 60 per cent of global revenues.
When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a "super-entity" of 147 even more tightly knit companies - all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity - that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. "In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network," says Glattfelder. Most were financial institutions. The top 20 included Barclays Bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and The Goldman Sachs Group.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html
QuoteAS PROTESTS against financial power sweep the world this week, science may have confirmed the protesters' worst fears. An analysis of the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations has identified a relatively small group of companies, mainly banks, with disproportionate power over the global economy.
The work, to be published in PLoS One, revealed a core of 1318 companies with interlocking ownerships (see image). Each of the 1318 had ties to two or more other companies, and on average they were connected to 20. What's more, although they represented 20 per cent of global operating revenues, the 1318 appeared to collectively own through their shares the majority of the world's large blue chip and manufacturing firms - the "real" economy - representing a further 60 per cent of global revenues.
When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a "super-entity" of 147 even more tightly knit companies - all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity - that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. "In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network," says Glattfelder. Most were financial institutions. The top 20 included Barclays Bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and The Goldman Sachs Group.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html
You have no idea, how little I care!
Chuck
In the United States, five banks control half the economy: JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, and Goldman Sachs Group collectively held $8.5 trillion in assets at the end of 2011, which equals roughly 56% of the U.S. economy. This data was according to central bankers at the Federal Reserve. In 2007, the assets of the largest banks amounted to 43% of the U.S. economy. Thus, the crisis has made the banks bigger and more powerful than ever.
QuoteIn the United States, five banks control half the economy: JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, and Goldman Sachs Group collectively held $8.5 trillion in assets at the end of 2011, which equals roughly 56% of the U.S. economy. This data was according to central bankers at the Federal Reserve. In 2007, the assets of the largest banks amounted to 43% of the U.S. economy. Thus, the crisis has made the banks bigger and more powerful than ever.
Refer to my last post!
Chuck
The estimated total of hidden offshore wealth amounts to more than the combined GDP of the United States and Japan, hidden in secretive financial jurisdictions like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. The process of hiding this wealth is largely facilitated by the major global banks, which compete with one another to attract the assets of the world’s super-rich. James Henry explained that the wealth of the world’s super-rich is “protected by a highly paid, industrious bevy of professional enablers in the private banking, legal, accounting and investment industries taking advantage of the increasingly borderless, frictionless global economy;” more of that “free market” magic. The top ten banks in the world, which include UBS and Credit Suisse (based in Switzerland) as well as Goldman Sachs in the United States, collectively managed roughly $6.4 trillion in offshore accounts for 2010 alone. As the report revealed, “for many developing countries the cumulative value of the capital that has flowed out of their economies since the 1970s would be more than enough to pay off their debts to the rest of the world,” debts which are largely illegitimate as it stands. This trend is exacerbated in the oil-rich states of the world such as Nigeria, Russia, and Saudi Arabia. The report stated: “The problem here is that the assets of these countries are held by a small number of wealthy individuals while the debts are shouldered by the ordinary people of these countries through their governments.” With roughly half of the world’s offshore wealth belonging to the top 92,000 richest individuals, they represent the top 0.001%, a far more extreme global disparity than that which is invoked by the Occupy movement’s 1% paradigm.
http://www.alternet.org/world/no-conspiracy-theory-small-group-companies-have-enormous-power-over-world?paging=off
http://www.alternet.org/world/no-conspiracy-theory-small-group-companies-have-enormous-power-over-world?paging=off
QuoteThe estimated total of hidden offshore wealth amounts to more than the combined GDP of the United States and Japan, hidden in secretive financial jurisdictions like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. The process of hiding this wealth is largely facilitated by the major global banks, which compete with one another to attract the assets of the world’s super-rich. James Henry explained that the wealth of the world’s super-rich is “protected by a highly paid, industrious bevy of professional enablers in the private banking, legal, accounting and investment industries taking advantage of the increasingly borderless, frictionless global economy;” more of that “free market” magic. The top ten banks in the world, which include UBS and Credit Suisse (based in Switzerland) as well as Goldman Sachs in the United States, collectively managed roughly $6.4 trillion in offshore accounts for 2010 alone. As the report revealed, “for many developing countries the cumulative value of the capital that has flowed out of their economies since the 1970s would be more than enough to pay off their debts to the rest of the world,” debts which are largely illegitimate as it stands. This trend is exacerbated in the oil-rich states of the world such as Nigeria, Russia, and Saudi Arabia. The report stated: “The problem here is that the assets of these countries are held by a small number of wealthy individuals while the debts are shouldered by the ordinary people of these countries through their governments.” With roughly half of the world’s offshore wealth belonging to the top 92,000 richest individuals, they represent the top 0.001%, a far more extreme global disparity than that which is invoked by the Occupy movement’s 1% paradigm.
http://www.alternet.org/world/no-conspiracy-theory-small-group-companies-have-enormous-power-over-world?paging=off
And now not only did you ignore the posts content, you prove your DD! Sweet! By the forums rules your newest username should be banned as well as the other few!
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
Kennedy 0
QuoteAnd now not only did you ignore the posts content, you prove your DD! Sweet! By the forums rules your newest username should be banned as well as the other few!
Matt
Not only does he sound exactly like dd/cd/all his other past nonsense, now he's quoting the exact same links. What's that, over a year old. I guess he can't even be bothered keeping up on whackjob talking points; he must save his posts and links and just repost under each new assumed identity - probably to a dozen forums each. Bill, Paul, can one of you look into this and get rid of dreamdancer v4.0.1 ?
witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Nice to see the two of you contributing to the Occupy thread - keep it up
Still, he did stick with at least the basic outlines of the narrative he started with, the one inspired by the Occupy movement. He continued to demand higher taxes from the rich. Even though the increase he calls for is pitifully small, the very fact of demanding any tax hike at all from the one percent is a symbolic attack on their privilege. It keeps the outrage of their immense wealth and influence in the spotlight. We haven’t seen that from a Democratic president since FDR.
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