regulator 0 #1 December 4, 2012 A 19-year-old man was in the Bexar County Jail after he allegedly struck his father in the head repeatedly with an ax. The victim died after his son, Marshall Lee Giles, who goes by the name Lil Sicc, was arrested and charged with aggravated assault. Bond was set at $20,000. Officers were called to the home, in the 1900 block of East Crockett Street, about 11 p.m. Wednesday, according to a police report. They found the victim — also named Marshall Lee Giles, who goes by the nickname Ernest Johnson — on the couch, moaning and bleeding from several large cuts on his head. His left eye was hanging from the socket. An officer spoke to the victim's wife, who told police she had gone to a store with her grandson to buy cigarettes. She returned and was smoking outside the house, unaware her husband had been injured, she said, until she went inside and saw him bleeding, according to the report. The grandson first told officers a man he didn't know had attacked the victim and then fled out a back door, the report said. Then he said that Giles, or Lil Sicc, “tugged him on his shoulder” and said he loved him before he ran away. The officer asked the grandson if Giles had stabbed the victim, and he said he wasn't sure, the report said. But the grandson later admitted the younger Giles had hit the elder Giles in the head with the ax, the report said. Investigators at the scene spotted the suspect coming out of a crawl space on the side of the house and arrested him, the report said. They found the weapon, a “hatchet with long handle,” in the crawl space. As police took the suspect away, he asked if the victim was still alive. He later gave “a full confession,” the report said. But as he was booked into the jail, the report said, the younger Giles began to “smile and laugh” after an officer explained to a detention officer why he was being arrested http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Son-accused-of-killing-father-with-ax-4060528.php#ixzz2E376KXa2 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/tyree-smith-axe-murder-cannibal-connecticut_n_1232067.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #2 December 4, 2012 Clearly axes are driving people to commit murders. Just the presence of posessing one gives you an elevated risk of going out and killing someone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #3 December 4, 2012 Does this mean the time has come to rewrite American Folklore? To rewrite the legend of Paul Bunyan? Could the American Folklore Hero actually have been a crazed Axe murderer? Be afraid, be very afraid. Paul Bunyan is coming to get you, to chop you into little pieces with his Axe. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyTwinkie 0 #4 December 4, 2012 Quote Does this mean the time has come to rewrite American Folklore? To rewrite the legend of Paul Bunyan? Could the American Folklore Hero actually have been a crazed Axe murderer? Be afraid, be very afraid. Paul Bunyan is coming to get you, to chop you into little pieces with his Axe. Maybe not Paul Bunyan, but what about Lizzie Borden? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #5 December 4, 2012 Lizzie was acquitted because the blood soaked dark leather glove did not fit. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 #6 December 4, 2012 I'll just "axe" that oak from my next load.... Come to think of it, they should ban axe-ing. I hate it when that happens to me.You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to tell you how Fu***** stupid it is. Davelepka - "This isn't an x-box, or a Chevy truck forum" Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #7 December 4, 2012 Yea and you know, times have changed. At one time a man needed an axe to live and to support his family. To keep them warm and be able to cook food. But now you know you can go and buy food already cooked, or cook with gas fuel. Axes have no pertinent use in today's society. I mean you could cut wood with chainsaws, or handsaws, and split it with other things. But we should specifically target axes, they are very dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strife 0 #8 December 4, 2012 Quote I mean you could cut wood with chainsaws, or handsaws, and split it with other things. But we should specifically target axes, they are very dangerous. maybe just one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5pLiJMZjQDw#! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #9 December 4, 2012 if 10,000 people every year were killed by axe-murder, you would expect a little more focus on axes....but that is not the reality. The reality is that 11000+ are killed by firearms every year, hence the focus on firearms and not axes.....or butter knives for that matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #10 December 4, 2012 Quote Come to think of it, they should ban axe-ing. I hate it when that happens to me. Who's axing your opinion? We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 #11 December 4, 2012 It kindoff says the same as yours...... to keep the balance.You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to tell you how Fu***** stupid it is. Davelepka - "This isn't an x-box, or a Chevy truck forum" Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #12 December 4, 2012 Quoteif 10,000 people every year were killed by axe-murder, you would expect a little more focus on axes....but that is not the reality. The reality is that 11000+ are killed by firearms every year, hence the focus on firearms and not axes.....or butter knives for that matter. what if he's got a pointed stick?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #13 December 4, 2012 Not a banana? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #14 December 4, 2012 Quoteif 10,000 people every year were killed by axe-murder, you would expect a little more focus on axes....but that is not the reality. The reality is that 11000+ are killed by firearms every year, hence the focus on firearms and not axes.....or butter knives for that matter. Firearms just leap off a table and go on a shooting spree? Damn, I'd sure like to see that. Maybe it's voodoo or some other kind of Black Magic. Perhaps a David Copperfield illusion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #15 December 4, 2012 Quoteif 10,000 people every year were killed by axe-murder, you would expect a little more focus on axes....but that is not the reality. The reality is that 11000+ are killed by firearms every year, hence the focus on firearms and not axes.....or butter knives for that matter. ------------------------------------------------------ Who mentioned firearms? This thread is clearly about those horrible axes. Now answer me this question...if this guy couldnt find an axe would he have found ANOTHER way to kill his dad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #16 December 4, 2012 QuoteNow answer me this question...if this guy couldnt find an axe would he have found ANOTHER way to kill his dad? I don't know. Do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #17 December 4, 2012 So its ok for Bob Costas to come out and say with 100% certainty that if Jovan Belcher, a 200LB+ Linebacker WOULDNT have killed his girlfriend and himself if he didnt have a gun. There NO WAY he could have snapped her neck and drove his car at high speed into a piller at arrowhead. Carpe Diem and Bob Costas can come out and make with rediculous claims about gun control. But the fact about the matter is that this guy did it with an axe. And I bet if he couldnt have found that axe he would have used a hammer, or whatever he could have found. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #18 December 4, 2012 Sounds like we just need to make the act of murder illegal. Oh the magical powers of laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #19 December 4, 2012 QuoteSo its ok for Bob Costas to come out and say with 100% certainty that if Jovan Belcher, a 200LB+ Linebacker WOULDNT have killed his girlfriend and himself if he didnt have a gun. It's his opinion. I couldn't say it with 100% certainty. I do think it would have been harder without easy access to firearms. Some of this is just th price you have to pay for the 2nd Amendment. QuoteAnd I bet if he couldnt have found that axe he would have used a hammer, or whatever he could have found. Don't you think that statement is very similar to what Bob Costas said and what has gotten you so worked up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #20 December 4, 2012 No its not remotely similar. Bob said and I quote ""But here," wrote Jason Whitlock," is what I believe. If Jovan Belcher didn’t possess a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today." That sounds like 100% to me http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/12/03/nbcs_bob_costas_goes_on_gun_control_rant_about_nfl_players_murder-suicide.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #21 December 4, 2012 It would be very difficult to do analytical geometry without x, y and z axes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #22 December 4, 2012 If my uncle didn't have balls, would he be my aunt? For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #23 December 4, 2012 Quote If my uncle didn't have balls, would he be my aunt? Wouldn't that depend upon whether they were cut off with an axe, or he/she was born without them? We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 December 5, 2012 QuotePLANT CITY — A teenager defending his mother as his father beat and choked her Saturday night shot and killed him, authorities said. The shooting happened about 10 p.m. after a small group of family and friends gathered around a bonfire outside a mobile home at 7427 Burnt Barn Ave. in the Antioch area of rural northeastern Hillsborough County, investigators said Sunday. At some point, Christopher Thorpe, 36, followed his wife, Jill Thorpe, 35, into the mobile home. The two got in an argument, deputies said. The fight escalated from words to fists and Christopher Thorpe began beating her, moving from the living room to the master bedroom, deputies said. He was chocking her when their son rushed in. Channing Thorpe, 17, fired several shots from a handgun, deputies said. At 10:15 p.m., he called 911 to say he had shot his dad, according to the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office. Deputies found Christopher Thorpe dead in the bedroom. One of the bullets also struck Jill Thorpe in the thigh. She was taken to Lakeland Regional Hospital and later released. Deputies made no arrests in the case and left Channing Thorpe in his mother's custody. If the family had a history of domestic violence, it was not evident in documents examined Sunday. Florida Department of Law Enforcement records show no criminal past in the state for the father, mother or son. Hillsborough court records show no domestic violence orders for protection were ever sought. And, until this incident, deputies had not been sent out to the property in at least the past year, a sheriff's spokeswoman said. The killing stunned Evelyn Thorpe — Christopher Thorpe's mother — who was driving down Sunday from Kentucky. "I had never, ever seen three people that were so close," Evelyn Thorpe, 64, said. "All three of them did everything together. Everything. I just can't understand it." She said she had seen her son just two weeks ago when he visited her in Kentucky and did some hunting near her house. He worked as a quality control inspector for Sensenich Propellers, an aircraft and airboat parts manufacturing company in Plant City. A neighbor, Bill Dunlap, 60, said he was not aware of any domestic violence issues at the home but said Christopher Thorpe had a temper. "He was always ready for a confrontation," Dunlap said. "I didn't really like him." Still, he had helped Dunlap get work years ago at Sensenich and Channing Thorpe started working there after school about a year ago, Dunlap said. Jill Thorpe, he said, manages the Strawberry Hut sandwich shop. "Chris thought of himself as the ruler of the roost and I guess Jill just got tired of it," Dunlap said. "He thought all women loved him and all women were second-class citizens." Three others at the bonfire apparently did not witness the shooting. The three were Channing Thorpe's maternal grandmother, who lives there, along with his girlfriend and another friend, the Sheriff's Office said. The shooting becomes at least the eighth incident in nine years in the Tampa Bay area where a child has stepped in with a weapon to protect a parent from domestic violence. They include a case in St. Petersburg last year in which a 16-year-old told police he stabbed his stepfather to death to protect his mother. As parents Paula and Otis Wilson Jr. fought, the teen, Derrion Adams, got a knife from a kitchen drawer. He was arrested and faced a charge as a juvenile of manslaughter. They also include a case in Hillsborough in 1994 in which a 14-year-old boy stabbed and injured his mother's live-in boyfriend, Rudolph Nathan, after the man had demanded money from her and her two sons to support his drug habit and a fight broke out. The boy's name was not released and deputies said he would not be charged. In the shooting this weekend, the Sheriff's Office will continue to investigate, spokeswoman Debbie Carter said, then hand the case to the State Attorney's Office to decide on any charges. Times news researcher Natalie Watson and staff writer Rich Shopes contributed to this report. http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1263189.ece Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #25 December 5, 2012 I am OK with X and Y, but who the hell needs a Z axis? Abbott didn't. So I'd be OK with making that one illegal, but without any axes the universe would be pretty boring. I mean, what would be the point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites