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[CanuckInUSA 0]

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I really wish there was a fix that would actually work

There is a fix, but realizing it will not be easy thanks to decades of decay. The fix is the restoration of family. Parents need to raise their children to be respectful self sufficient people who in turn will pass this on to their children, so on and so forth. Problem is, society is going the other way. How does a young adult pass on good life lessons to their children when they themselves likely had poor parents who did not pass these valuable lessons on to them.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[normiss 851]

If they were right, this shit wouldn't happen.
All that prayin' before would pay off.


Jesus love the little children...all the children of the world.

Until today? WTF?
Why would he suddenly listen to prayers now?

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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no guns = lives spared while guns = lives lost

how are you going to get the guns out of criminals hands, all you will do is disarm law abiding people.

Jamaica tried a handgun ban in 1974 with warrant-less searches, special gun courts with secret trials, and mandatory life sentences.

Their murder rate skyrocketed past 60 per 100,000 inhabitants.

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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I really wish there was a fix that would actually work that didnt have to involve armed guards, but I see no other option that would even have a chance of actually working
I have a 10 yr old son and this shit scares the hell out of me.

While very horrible school shootings are extremely uncommon and not high on the list of things you need to worry about. According to the Secret Service and US Department of Education the odds are about 1 in 1 million.

http://www2.ed.gov/admins/lead/safety/preventingattacksreport.pdf

As of 2007 a child under 19's chances of dying in an auto accident were about 80 in 1M, drowning 13 in 1M, and being poisoned 12 in 1M.

[Bolas 5]

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It's not the "same issue." Not by a long shot.

Not the same issue? WTF ...

A crazed man walked into a school in China with the intention of harming innocent children. A crazed man walked into a school in the US with the intention of harming innocent children. Sure guns are more efficient weapons than knives, but yes these two are the same. Neither the knife nor the gun woke up this morning and decided they wanted to harm children. What is this world coming to? It is the human who has gone over the edge, not the inanimate object.

We should start blaming places more. If we ban schools, there can be no more school shootings.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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You're wasting your breath, and just letting yourself be baited.

Says a guy wearing a sharks suit.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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It's not the "same issue." Not by a long shot.

Not the same issue? WTF ...

A crazed man walked into a school in China with the intention of harming innocent children. A crazed man walked into a school in the US with the intention of harming innocent children. Sure guns are more efficient weapons than knives, but yes these two are the same. Neither the knife nor the gun woke up this morning and decided they wanted to harm children. What is this world coming to? It is the human who has gone over the edge, not the inanimate object.

You are wasting your breath.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

Last night I was having a chat with my mother and we were talking about a man from Quebec, "Guy Turcotte" a cardiologist who three years ago murdered his 5 year old son and his 3 year old daughter stabbing them 46 times with a knife as they slept in their beds. Horrible does not even come close to describing this crime. But why were myself and my mother discussing this? Because the mental health authorities in Quebec decided Mr Turcotte was NOT criminally responsible for his actions and just this week, these very same healthcare authorities decided that Mr Turcotte no longer possessed a threat to society and he has been freed back onto the streets. Sounds unbelievable? One of those "you have to be fucking kidding me, you are so full of shit, there is no way a man can stab his children 46 times as they slept would be walking the streets tonight as a free man only three years after his crime". Google his name, I shit you not. True story. We live in a very sick society. Oh and before someone says "only a father would do this, a mother would never murder her own flesh a blood". Think again. Google the name "Sonia Blanchette", another parent who last week murdered her 5 year old daughter, 4 year old son and 2 year old daughter.

So while some people want to demonize guns (which without a doubt are efficient killing tools when used maliciously), I have to ask "What cause society to become so fucked up where adults seek to harm/kill innocent children". It's not the gun (or the knife in the examples I just outlined) that killed the children. It was the sick human who became a monster and turned on all these innocent children. Who says monsters don't exist.

This is a sad sad day.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[masterblaster72 0]

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>https://twitter.com/FreeRepublicTXT

Cool! Death threat against the president. Might be getting a visit from some large men in suits pretty soon.

Just had a look --

How the hell do you find this garbage?

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[kallend 2,106]

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You haven't actually read the entire thread, have you?

Perhaps you should. Then you would have found out that there have been 20 people slashed to death since 2010. Then you wouldn't look so ill-informed.

And if you were better informed you would know that over 1000x as many people have been shot to death in the same time period.

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[kallend 2,106]

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I really wish there was a fix that would actually work that didnt have to involve armed guards, but I see no other option that would even have a chance of actually working
I have a 10 yr old son and this shit scares the hell out of me.

While very horrible school shootings are extremely uncommon and not high on the list of things you need to worry about. According to the Secret Service and US Department of Education the odds are about 1 in 1 million.

http://www2.ed.gov/admins/lead/safety/preventingattacksreport.pdf

As of 2007 a child under 19's chances of dying in an auto accident were about 80 in 1M, drowning 13 in 1M, and being poisoned 12 in 1M.

Red herring.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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You haven't actually read the entire thread, have you?

Perhaps you should. Then you would have found out that there have been 20 people slashed to death since 2010. Then you wouldn't look so ill-informed.

And if you were better informed you would know that over 1000x as many people have been shot to death in the same time period.

So you are claiming over 20,00 people in China have been killed in gun crimes since 201? I call BS. Prove it.

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In the US, teachers arming themselves as a means to protect themselves and their children from lunatic, murdering gun-nuts only exaggerates an already self-perpetuating problem.

A change of culture is what's required, beginning with draconian laws banning personal gun possession. Unrealistic? Perhaps, but I'm sure future generations will appreciate a culture with less guns proliferated through-out it. And therefore less massacres.

Lunatics may well still find means of arming themselves; but I'm pretty certain with such laws the frequency of massacres in the US would reduce.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[BikerBabe 0]

let me sum up (and thanks everyone for not bothering to read that i am no anti-gun fanatic. what, that part just slip by y'all?)

Yes, people kill people. Guns just make it incredibly easy and efficient for someone to do so.

for the math-inclined, how about I amend my expression to this:

crazy person + gun = LOTS OF DEAD PEOPLE
crazy person - gun = WAY FEWER DEAD PEOPLE

reference: news report on chinese school knife attack and news report on CT school shooting.

now go on ahead and insert words into this that i didn't say, or opinions that I didn't express. I fully expect it here.

Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

[Andy9o8 2]

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(and thanks everyone for not bothering to read that i am no anti-gun fanatic. what, that part just slip by y'all?)

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4413177#4413177

[rushmc 23]

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I really wish there was a fix that would actually work

There is a fix, but realizing it will not be easy thanks to decades of decay. The fix is the restoration of family. Parents need to raise their children to be respectful self sufficient people who in turn will pass this on to their children, so on and so forth. Problem is, society is going the other way. How does a young adult pass on good life lessons to their children when they themselves likely had poor parents who did not pass these valuable lessons on to them.

Two posts that paints this tragedy in the correct light.

Years of pushing women out of the house (those that would rather stay) fights for laws the take away support for the family
Liberals fighting for rules and laws that reduce personal responsibility
Schools teaching that if someone has more than you you should be able to take it somehow

And now where is this more apparent than in the inner cities

Good posts

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Skyrad 0]

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Doesn't the lack of thinking skills by some in Speakers Corner just astound you?

Ya
But I have had my turns at it too

This is an emotional event

Some want to make is stop
They see guns as the issue
Remove the guns this will stop

Thats what happened here in the UK... It didn't work.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Doesn't the lack of thinking skills by some in Speakers Corner just astound you?

Ya
But I have had my turns at it too

This is an emotional event

Some want to make is stop
They see guns as the issue
Remove the guns this will stop

Thats what happened here in the UK... It didn't work.

Now the gun-o-phobes have become the knife-o-phobes?

This is apparently a case in which the mother knew she had an emotionally disturbed child. She chose to have guns in her house that she failed to secure. In all fairness, I'm sure she never thought he would do something like this, but had she secured her guns, this event may never have happened.

[rushmc 23]

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Doesn't the lack of thinking skills by some in Speakers Corner just astound you?

Ya
But I have had my turns at it too

This is an emotional event

Some want to make is stop
They see guns as the issue
Remove the guns this will stop

Thats what happened here in the UK... It didn't work.

Exactly

And it will not work here either

Violent video games, violent movies, parents not parenting, government removing responsibilities for immoral behaviors, government saying more of what I have is theirs and therefore taking away my personal incentive to work hard and take responsibility for may actions and being taught that if someone made something of themselves, they didnt do that alone. It all plays a part.

the only winners in this situation will be hip dr's and bone crackers

Why? It is going to take a lot to fix all the injuries from the violent knee jerking going on related to what the left see's as an opportunity to my political hay out of a tragedy

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Gravitymaster 0]

I think that when people who own guns have less need to own them, there will be fewer guns. I am constantly amazed by those who think the solution is inverted.

Until we begin to have serious discussions about what is wrong with our culture and what we are going to do to change it, I will keep my guns to protect me from criminals.

[rushmc 23]

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I think that when people who own guns have less need to own them, there will be fewer guns. I am constantly amazed by those who think the solution is inverted.

Until we begin to have serious discussions about what is wrong with our culture and what we are going to do to change it, I will keep my guns to protect me from criminals.

It is amazing how things have changed

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When I was in high school we would bring our shot guns and rifles and go hunting or target shooting after school. Some of us even had Browning BAR sporting rifles in 22-250. No one got shot that I know of
But if it did happen, it was not reported on the 24 hour world wide leftist news cycle we have today

Now I can even bring my own guns to work and lock them up in the vehicle in the parking lot without a chance of getting fired

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[vortexring 0]

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Doesn't the lack of thinking skills by some in Speakers Corner just astound you?

Ya
But I have had my turns at it too

This is an emotional event

Some want to make is stop
They see guns as the issue
Remove the guns this will stop

Thats what happened here in the UK... It didn't work.

Exactly

And it will not work here either

Violent video games, violent movies, parents not parenting, government removing responsibilities for immoral behaviors, government saying more of what I have is theirs and therefore taking away my personal incentive to work hard and take responsibility for may actions and being taught that if someone made something of themselves, they didnt do that alone. It all plays a part.

the only winners in this situation will be hip dr's and bone crackers

Why? It is going to take a lot to fix all the injuries from the violent knee jerking going on related to what the left see's as an opportunity to my political hay out of a tragedy

These are problems faced by other developed nations; where individuals are not massacring other people with firearms.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[Skyrad 0]

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Doesn't the lack of thinking skills by some in Speakers Corner just astound you?

Ya
But I have had my turns at it too

This is an emotional event

Some want to make is stop
They see guns as the issue
Remove the guns this will stop

Thats what happened here in the UK... It didn't work.

Now the gun-o-phobes have become the knife-o-phobes?

This is apparently a case in which the mother knew she had an emotionally disturbed child. She chose to have guns in her house that she failed to secure. In all fairness, I'm sure she never thought he would do something like this, but had she secured her guns, this event may never have happened.

No need to become knife phobic, theres still plenty of hand guns around just now they're all owned by the criminals.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Skyrad 0]

Yep.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Gravitymaster 0]

You mean oppressive cultures like France where Muslim women are told they cannot wear a burka even if they want to?