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quade 4
QuoteSo many schools can't even afford to keep enough teachers. I wonder how they're supposed to afford well-trained armed security?
Running the numbers, even if you only put ONE armed guard at each school in the US, it would cost the US $2,014,412,500 per year.
But here's the thing, Wayne is suggesting all 138,925 of these guards be VOLUNTEERS.
Right.
The man seems to have no idea of what scale he's talking about.
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rushmc 23
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QuoteAnd they pur their money where their mouth is
Money where their mouth is? Their solution is more guns, what a bold fucking move.
And that nut did not have the balls to take any questions, what a pussy.
Ok
Two mischaraterizations on your part
First, they said they would train (for free) any security for any school in the country
Second, at the start they told all the reporters they would talk to any and all of them on Monday. All they need do it contact the NRA
Did you watch the whole conference? Or are you just being disingenuous?
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteSo many schools can't even afford to keep enough teachers. I wonder how they're supposed to afford well-trained armed security?
Running the numbers, even if you only put ONE armed guard at each school in the US, it would cost the US $2,014,412,500 per year.
But here's the thing, Wayne is suggesting all 138,925 of these guards be VOLUNTEERS.
Right.
The man seems to have no idea of what scale he's talking about.
Ya
We gotta ban guns
That will do it
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteSo many schools can't even afford to keep enough teachers. I wonder how they're supposed to afford well-trained armed security?
He stated that every school would have solutions that would fit their own situation
A school could decide that they want the teachers (that wish to) to be trained and armed
The NRA said they would train such people for free
But one thing the NRA is correct about
Armed people protect banks, airports, president and congressmen. So if our children are one of our best future resources, whey do we not protect them?
Banning certin guns and high cap mags sure as hell will not protect them
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
SStewart 13
How are we going to pay for armed guards? Volunteers? Give me a break!
rushmc 23
QuoteThese are the same people that don't want to pay taxes.
How are we going to pay for armed guards? Volunteers? Give me a break!
Ya
Now there is no money
I guess I will worry about that when the left starts worrying too
We can find money for food stamps,,99 weeks of unemployment
ect ect ect
But there is no money to protect the children
Ironic
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
QuoteThe man seems to have no idea of what scale he's talking about.
Nor do the "disarm" folks. Assuming 300 million guns in the US. like you, I'll go lowball and assume $500 per gun to seize them.
That's $150,000,000,000 to eliminate the guns. $150 billion dollars.
More realistically, it'd cost at least $5k per gun seized (salary of seizure staff, benefits, administrative costs, litigation and due process, processing weapons and disposal of weapons, etc.), bringing that total up to $1,500,000,000,000 ($1.5 trillion).
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rushmc 23
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
SStewart 13
So no taxes to pay for guards, we can just use the money from food stamps. We can't afford food but we can afford bullets. Fucking awesome!
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteThe man seems to have no idea of what scale he's talking about.
Nor do the "disarm" folks. Assuming 300 million guns in the US. like you, I'll go lowball and assume $500 per gun to seize them.
That's $150,000,000,000 to eliminate the guns. $150 billion dollars.
More realistically, it'd cost at least $5k per gun seized (salary of seizure staff, benefits, administrative costs, litigation and due process, processing weapons and disposal of weapons, etc.), bringing that total up to $1,500,000,000,000 ($1.5 trillion).
Even the good Senator from CA's new bill (to be introduced early next year) grandfathers all existing weapons and magazines.
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteThe left?
So no taxes to pay for guards, we can just use the money from food stamps. We can't afford food but we can afford bullets. Fucking awesome!
Now this is an interesting twist
Why do you hate school children so much?
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
QuoteThese are the same people that don't want to pay taxes.
How are we going to pay for armed guards? Volunteers? Give me a break!
Seems to me that the issue is not "taxes" per se. The "tax" issue is "confiscatory level" taxes to the federal government. Remember when it used to be that schools were funded by localities? (Note: the US Department of Education has been around for 33 years. Yes, only 33 years).
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jclalor 12
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Ok
Two mischaraterizations on your part
First, they said they would train (for free) any security for any school in the country
And this wouldn't increase sales?
Second, at the start they told all the reporters they would talk to any and all of them on Monday. All they need do it contact the NRA
When you announce for days your'e going to have a "Press conference" and then all you do is make a statement, you are being dishonest. If you are too much of a coward to field questions in real time as one would expect at a press conference, as opposed to sayng "We'll get back to you on Monday" Your'e a coward.
Just caught the last few minutes, but that was plenty of time to see he was a pussy.
rushmc 23
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Ok
Two mischaraterizations on your part
First, they said they would train (for free) any security for any school in the country
And this wouldn't increase sales?
Second, at the start they told all the reporters they would talk to any and all of them on Monday. All they need do it contact the NRA
When you announce for days your'e going to have a "Press conference" and then all you do is make a statement, you are being dishonest. If you are too much of a coward to field questions in real time as one would expect at a press conference, as opposed to sayng "We'll get back to you on Monday" Your'e a coward.
Just caught the last few minutes, but that was plenty of time to see he was a pussy.
So you missed the whole start of it
Classic
happens on this site all the time
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jclalor 12
QuoteQuoteQuoteThe man seems to have no idea of what scale he's talking about.
Nor do the "disarm" folks. Assuming 300 million guns in the US. like you, I'll go lowball and assume $500 per gun to seize them.
That's $150,000,000,000 to eliminate the guns. $150 billion dollars.
Can you cite one one serious elected official that wants to confiscate every privately owned firearm in the country?
In all honesty, I think your cost estimates for complete confiscation were a bit on the high side, I think with UN help we could do it much cheaper.
jclalor 12
QuoteQuoteHave you any criticism of the proposed efficacy of the announced plan?
How did that armed guard at Columbine work out?
kallend 2,027
QuoteThat was bizarre, I thought they may try a little bit of the middle ground.
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Not on the cards. No money to be made that way.
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SStewart 13
QuoteQuoteThe left?
So no taxes to pay for guards, we can just use the money from food stamps. We can't afford food but we can afford bullets. Fucking awesome!
Now this is an interesting twist
Why do you hate school children so much?
What a stupid childish comment, I HAVE school children.
I have no problem with well trained professional PAID armed security. That costs money and that means TAXES>
The problem with you looney tunes right wing nut jobs is you want every thing for free. You freeloaders want big military and war just so long as you don't have to actually PAY for it. Armed security guards? Sure, but no funding for it because that would be communism.
Why do you hate America so much?
Money where their mouth is? Their solution is more guns, what a bold fucking move.
And that nut did not have the balls to take any questions, what a pussy.
Do you really think there is any more realistic solution? Banning guns or high capacity magazines won't make them go away.