tkhayes 348 #1 January 7, 2013 The tarsands and oilsands of Alberta are finally a boom, and destined to be the future. Similar developments in the USA coming online. Pipelines and future oil independence. All good, we need oil. The downside: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/01/07/pol-oilsands-alberta-lakes-pollution-pah.html what to do what to do..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #2 January 7, 2013 >what to do what to do..... Same thing we do with every other industry. Learn from our mistakes and clean it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #3 January 7, 2013 the whole point of the article is that we are NOT cleaning it up. It is getting far worse than expected. Oilsands have been under development in Alberta since the late 70's, maybe earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #4 January 7, 2013 > It is getting far worse than expected. Oilsands have been under development >in Alberta since the late 70's, maybe earlier. Yep. But until recently they haven't been processed in any quantity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #5 January 8, 2013 Interesting documentary on the subject here if you have the time to watch it. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #6 January 8, 2013 Quote Same thing we do with every other industry. Learn from our mistakes and clean it up. US emissions have actually gone down, due to increasing use of natural gas. If we were really serious about addressing CO2 emissions, IMO, we'd be maxing nuclear power right now. Heck, if the French can do it, so can we.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #7 January 8, 2013 How much of canada's oil comes from this area? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 January 8, 2013 QuoteThe tarsands and oilsands of Alberta are finally a boom, and destined to be the future. Similar developments in the USA coming online. Pipelines and future oil independence. All good, we need oil. The downside: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/01/07/pol-oilsands-alberta-lakes-pollution-pah.html what to do what to do..... Serious question It looks that this article is actually trying to make it seem as though the mining of oilsands is the problem Is that your take? As I read it, it becomes clear that the deposits are from the burning of the product after it is extracted. Not from the drilling as it seems the piece is trying to blame halfheartedly So it simply is another article bashing fossil fuel usage?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #9 January 8, 2013 QuoteHow much of canada's oil comes from this area? From Natural Resources Canada: "Production of crude oil in Canada totalled 167.4 million m3 in 2010. Oil sands accounted for 51.9 percent of production, exceeding conventional sources for the first time. About two thirds of crude oil production is exported" Source: http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/statistics-facts/energy/895 The lion's share of Canadian fossil fuel exports are to the USA representing some 98.3% of total exports. Source: http://www.neb-one.gc.ca/clf-nsi/rnrgynfmtn/sttstc/crdlndptrlmprdct/stmtdcndncrdlxprttpdstn-eng.html#s2012 Canada remains the largest single supplier to the USA of fossil fuel, I think hovering around 18.5%. Source: http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/imports/companylevel/ Oh, and we also export great comedians, bad vocalists, and hockey players. John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #10 January 8, 2013 >US emissions have actually gone down, due to increasing use of natural gas. Yes, and also due to gradually increasing efficiency of all thermal power plants. Combined cycle plants are now the norm, and older plants are being taken off line as they time out. >If we were really serious about addressing CO2 emissions, IMO, we'd be >maxing nuclear power right now. Heck, if the French can do it, so can we. I wouldn't go with the French model, but I agree that's a good avenue also. The GE AP600 and AP1000 reactors are available now and are safer, cheaper and more efficient than current designs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #11 January 8, 2013 Quote I wouldn't go with the French model, but I agree that's a good avenue also. The GE AP600 and AP1000 reactors are available now and are safer, cheaper and more efficient than current designs. It would be nice to think rational adults in charge of the conversation would table this option, but I think we're running short on rational adults in that area...We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
