Welfare mom with 15 kids wants someone to pay for them

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OBAMA!!! WOOOOOOO!!

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[oldwomanc6 52]

Interesting that she says her life didn't start falling apart until social services got involved.

She apparently doesn't think it fell apart when the baby-daddy of 10 of her kids was sent to the Big House.

In her own words "Somebody needs to pay for me and alllllll my children, somebody needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay."



Sad to say, some people just can't or won't be helped.

lisa
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Multiple people got involved and contributed thousands to this stupid whore and yet it wasn't enough...its the SYSTEM's fault. Someone need to shove a coathanger up that skanks snatch.

[GeorgiaDon 362]

Unfortunately you can't fix stupid. If she can't manage her affairs, those kids should be taken from her and placed in homes where they'll get to see real grownups taking care of their own responsibilities. Too many kids grow up in an environment where they think someone else will take care of them, because that's all they have ever experienced. I think it's a fair bet that Mom grew up in a welfare home too.

I've got to say, also, that something seems sketchy about that story. She doesn't seem old enough to have produced 15 kids, the "fiance" doesn't look old enough to have fathered 10 of them, and a lot of the kids look quite close in age. It's possible I guess, assuming she started at 12 and had one a year or so. Also what did "dad" do to support the family before he got himself arrested? You'd need a substantial income to feed and clothe 15 kids. Smells like a welfare scam to me.

Don

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I prefer to refer to her as a stereo-typical Obama voter.

[tkhayes 348]

Funny how this is automatically an Obama problem. It's Florida.....We have Gov Rick Scott - elected on a hardcore right-wing Republican platform that was going to solve 'all these problems'.

No one apparently noticed that apparently he did not solve this problem.

[davjohns 1]

I think if you take into account that he called her 'sterotypical', the comment is not unfair. Whether the stereotype is based in truth or not is a different issue.

I saw a video of her on facebook. I agree with her. Someone should be held accountable. I just think SHE is the one. She clearly thinks someone else should be accountable for her actions. Sadly, a large section of my government and fellow citizens seem to side with her.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[tkhayes 348]

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Sadly, a large section of my government and fellow citizens seem to side with her.

I would ask that you substantiate that because i really doubt that she has much support outside of her immediate family or circle of friends.

And in fact she IS reaping the benefits of her lack of responsibility. She is homeless and cannot feed her kids. Does that sound like some sort of free ride? Not to me.

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How do you think someone ends up with 15 kids they can't pay for. What do you think goes on in someone like that's mind? Why do they think that's ok?

[rushmc 23]

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How do you think someone ends up with 15 kids they can't pay for. What do you think goes on in someone like that's mind? Why do they think that's ok?

I see her actions endangering nearly as many children as the Sandy Hook murders

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[GeorgiaDon 362]

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ow do you think someone ends up with 15 kids ...

Let me explain it to you. See, you've got the birds and you've got the bees...

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What do you think goes on in someone like that's mind?

Probably very little. Stimulus/response at best. Three billion years of evolution gone completely to waste.

Don

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“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

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Serious question, what do you think fosters this type of thinking? It's doubtful this woman and the men were never taught that having sex will eventually result in a pregnancy. It's also doubtful they didn't have access to birth control. I'm also curious what the tipping point was that finally caused her financial collapse, assuming she was getting some type of public assistance. This woman appears to be the mythical "Welfare Queen".

[normiss 803]

$2800/mo in Cali?

I think I'll change my retirement plan to a welfare plan.
Appears to pay better.

[piisfish 140]

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Someone need to shove a coathanger up that skanks snatch.

seems a bit late for that... but seriously she needs to have an operation. And him too...

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How do you think someone ends up with 15 kids they can't pay for. What do you think goes on in someone like that's mind? Why do they think that's ok?

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She had multiple opportunities to get help and her attitude got in the way...shes getting everything she deserves.

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Sadly, a large section of my government and fellow citizens seem to side with her.

I would ask that you substantiate that because i really doubt that she has much support outside of her immediate family or circle of friends.

And in fact she IS reaping the benefits of her lack of responsibility. She is homeless and cannot feed her kids. Does that sound like some sort of free ride? Not to me.

I'm not sure your recitation of the facts matches what I've been given. The video I watched over her showed her in a home and there was no mention of homelessnes. To the contrary, one person in the video said the woman's rent was being paid by others. The video also said that many people have tried to help her.

My comment was directed at her statement in the video that 'someone should be held accountable' for her children. I agree. I think SHE and the fathers should be responsible for their children. You seem to take issue with that idea.

I vehemently disagree with the idea that the irresponsible actions of another creates a duty on me to get them out of the mess they made. I am happy to help the unfortunate / less fortunate. However, I am greatly offended by someone who has acted so irresponsibly going on camera and claiming it is someone else's responsibility and acting indignant that someone else isn't being held accountable.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[rushmc 23]

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Serious question, what do you think fosters this type of thinking?

Maybe this has some insight

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/08/are-raising-generation-deluded-narcissists/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[GeorgiaDon 362]

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Serious question, what do you think fosters this type of thinking?

I don't know for certain, as her world view is so completely different from mine. I have a couple of speculations, though. First, I'd bet that she grew up in the "projects". While I don't have any objection to a hand up for people who really need it, I have long thought that creating whole communities where everybody is on government assistance is a really bad idea. If everybody you know, all the people around you, and your parent and maybe theirs before them are on the dole, it must just seem "normal", not something you need to get away from or be appreciative for. Break those communities up, and integrate the residents into regular communities. I know people might not want a welfare family for their next door neighbor, but maybe strict rules of conduct or else you lose your privileges can help. Anyway, if kids grow up seeing their friends from the neighborhood coming from two parent self-supporting families maybe they'll come to see that as "normal". The other thing is the 15 kids from multiple fathers issue. On one hand this suggests a pathological lack of self esteem to the point where your only value in life is as a sperm receptacle and pumping out kids. Maybe the woman has other mental issues, she doesn't seem to be able to connect her present actions with future consequences very well. Who knows? Certainly there is a serious cultural problem with the ready acceptance of the idea that fathers aren't really expected to stick around and support their kids. I can't fathom why so many women just take it for granted that single parenthood and the attendant poverty is their destiny. Of course that is tied up in the high incarceration rate for men in those communities. It seems as if going to jail is "no big deal", just a right of passage/fact of life. Again this may relate to the way we (as a society) create these communities of poverty ("projects") where such issues become so common they are seen as normal. For the rest of us, going to jail would be a big deal, costing us our jobs and professions in many cases, or our businesses, as well as being immensely humiliating. It's a real condemnation of certain cultures, in my opinion, that Mike Tyson's stature was actually increased (or at least not completely destroyed) by his rape conviction and jail sentence.

Anyway just some random musings.

Don

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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

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That's a very well thought out answer. I couldn't agree more. It also highlights a difference in ideologies. Some feel as if they can simply rely on the government to bail them out of every situation and therefore they go about thier lives with the "no big deal" attitude. Other are very tired of constantly being asked to support this philosophy and feel that "tough love" is the only way to change this. It really has gotten to the point where it's very ingrained into our culture. It comes out in many way whether it be going to jail, having multiple children one cannot afford, and even a psychotic/pathological disregard for human life as seen in the ongoing problem with gun violence and abortion.

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Unfortunately this has evolved into a system that has no accountability. The whole 'lets just blame it on the man' rather than 'man the fuck up' is what were facing now and its going to get worse before it gets better.

[davjohns 1]

I once had a fairly close friendship with a black female who confessed to me that she was in college before she discovered there was no 'man'. She had been told all of her life that 'the man' was holding people down, oppressing blacks, denying jobs, etc. She really had no idea this was untrue.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[OHCHUTE 0]

State of Florida is paying. Kids are in foster home. Plus look on the bright side. Without all those kids, mostly all the white people standing around the court room including the state attorney, social workers, police, judge etc WOULD'NT HAVE A JOB!

Next up: cops, state lawyers, social workers, hospitals, prison
guards all get more work when the kids grow up with all the trouble they'll get into. WHOOPEE. More work to do.

[Southern_Man 0]

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How do you think someone ends up with 15 kids they can't pay for. What do you think goes on in someone like that's mind? Why do they think that's ok?

I would guess she has quite a low IQ, so the "not much" answer posted probably has a lot of truth to it (although complicated by other factors Don mentioned as well).

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[jakee 1,500]

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I prefer to refer to her as a stereo-typical Obama voter.

Which really says a lot more about you than it does about Obama or the people who voted for him.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?