Supreme Court to hear alleged OBAMA forgeries

[Andy9o8 2]

Not one iota of the Obama birther nonsense would ever have existed if all of Obama's recent forbears had been of European ancestry. None. Belgian father? No problem. Nigerian father? Oh, he's a closet foreigner.

Fucking racist morons.

Anyone who doesn't like that card can kiss my ass.

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The question is for BIGNUGGET. You say you got through airport security with copy of your drivers license. Why did the the hotel person copy your license to begin with. And why were you given the copy only. Why didn't the person hand you the license? Why did you accept a copy? when you'd expect to be handed the licnese. Your story appears is bogus just to prove your point that you got through airport security with a copy.

[tkhayes 348]

those are only questions that once again YOU apparently consider to be relevant and require n further response from anyone just because you demand an answer. Sounds like a whole bunch of muddling up the issue with more of your own rantings.

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those are only questions that once again YOU apparently consider to be relevant and require n further response from anyone just because you demand an answer. Sounds like a whole bunch of muddling up the issue with more of your own rantings.

Funny. You don't answer the question as you can't. Because this never happened.
This is a typical example of how truths are avoided. Come up with a lie to mask the truth.
Hotel person makes a copy of your license, for a reason no one knows and then gives the same thing they wanted, back to you instead of your license. Hilarious.

Don't answer the question. Just blaim the questioner for asking the question. Bla Bla Bla. Same old story.

You have no argument that a copy is better than an orginal in discovery of authenticity of any record.

NO ARGUMENT. (I'm not shouting either. Just highlighting so that you'll see the words.) NO ARGUMENT.

[billvon 2,990]

>You have no argument that a copy is better than an orginal in discovery of
>authenticity of any record.

A very simple argument nowadays is that originals in many cases no longer exist.

Let's see your original driver's license (for example.) Or original passport. I don't have either one; most people don't.

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>You have no argument that a copy is better than an orginal in discovery of
>authenticity of any record.

A very simple argument nowadays is that originals in many cases no longer exist.

Let's see your original driver's license (for example.) Or original passport. I don't have either one; most people don't.

You don't have your original DL because the govt often makes you surrender your old one when you get a new one. As if they don't know what they're doing. This river runs deep.

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The question is for BIGNUGGET. You say you got through airport security with copy of your drivers license. Why did the the hotel person copy your license to begin with. And why were you given the copy only. Why didn't the person hand you the license? Why did you accept a copy? when you'd expect to be handed the licnese. Your story appears is bogus just to prove your point that you got through airport security with a copy.

They copied it when I checked in, I suppose for security deposit reasons, they took it with my credit card when I checked in and made a copy.

The clerk then forgot it wherever (on the machine) I dont know....I didnt realize he didnt hand it back.

I discovered it was gone the day I was scheduled to leave and went to him and asked him to look for it, but he couldnt find it.

All he had was the photo copy made by him the week before when I checked in. So he made me an additional copy of that.

The really fun part is I had been in Seattle at HempFest, and was dressed in a tyedye shirt that said "Hippy chicks dig me" and a big oversized pair of patchwork shorts when I went through security with no ID.

I got to skip like 30 min of security line to, I have considered claiming the same thing other times since then just to see if I can skip through again, but only halfway consider it, I don't like messing with karma that way.

Sorry its not bogus

I don't have any sort of original copy to backup my story though, I suppose you could track the hotel clerk down and see if he remembers me and go from there.

Maybe the airport still has video from that long ago.


Just ETA: This was in late 2008, so well after 9/11 in case that makes a difference to you.

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The question is for BIGNUGGET. You say you got through airport security with copy of your drivers license. Why did the the hotel person copy your license to begin with. And why were you given the copy only. Why didn't the person hand you the license? Why did you accept a copy? when you'd expect to be handed the licnese. Your story appears is bogus just to prove your point that you got through airport security with a copy.

They copied it when I checked in, I suppose for security deposit reasons, they took it with my credit card when I checked in and made a copy.

The clerk then forgot it wherever (on the machine) I dont know....I didnt realize he didnt hand it back.

I discovered it was gone the day I was scheduled to leave and went to him and asked him to look for it, but he couldnt find it.

All he had was the photo copy made by him the week before when I checked in. So he made me an additional copy of that.

The really fun part is I had been in Seattle at HempFest, and was dressed in a tyedye shirt that said "Hippy chicks dig me" and a big oversized pair of patchwork shorts when I went through security with no ID.

I got to skip like 30 min of security line to, I have considered claiming the same thing other times since then just to see if I can skip through again, but only halfway consider it, I don't like messing with karma that way.

Sorry its not bogus

I don't have any sort of original copy to backup my story though, I suppose you could track the hotel clerk down and see if he remembers me and go from there.

Maybe the airport still has video from that long ago.


Just ETA: This was in late 2008, so well after 9/11 in case that makes a difference to you.

So your license was lost and you got though the gate with a copy.
In Obama instance, the first time around, Hawaii indicated there was no birth certificate as Brian requested. From that time to Feinstein approved Obama there was no birth certificate, and not even a copy was produced.
So Obama got through the gate, not only with a missing birth certificate, but also with not having to present even a copy.

Hence: People get through gates.

I suspect, with as loyal people are to Obama, as much as people or convinced copies are as good as orginals, Obama could have announced just before this last election he was truly not a citizen, and people would have voted for him anyway. So it really doesn't matter now about any copy or orginal documents.
I only surfaced the topic upon Tailz's Press release indicating the topic was scheduled for conference with SCOTUS. And have already said many time, the Supreme Court will probably never hear the complaint.

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In Obama instance, the first time around, Hawaii indicated there was no birth certificate as Brian requested.

Did they? Really?

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I only surfaced the topic upon Tailz's Press release indicating the topic was scheduled for conference with SCOTUS.

And yet you're already an expert.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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The question is for BIGNUGGET. You say you got through airport security with copy of your drivers license. Why did the the hotel person copy your license to begin with. And why were you given the copy only. Why didn't the person hand you the license? Why did you accept a copy? when you'd expect to be handed the licnese. Your story appears is bogus just to prove your point that you got through airport security with a copy.

They copied it when I checked in, I suppose for security deposit reasons, they took it with my credit card when I checked in and made a copy.

The clerk then forgot it wherever (on the machine) I dont know....I didnt realize he didnt hand it back.

I discovered it was gone the day I was scheduled to leave and went to him and asked him to look for it, but he couldnt find it.

All he had was the photo copy made by him the week before when I checked in. So he made me an additional copy of that.

The really fun part is I had been in Seattle at HempFest, and was dressed in a tyedye shirt that said "Hippy chicks dig me" and a big oversized pair of patchwork shorts when I went through security with no ID.

I got to skip like 30 min of security line to, I have considered claiming the same thing other times since then just to see if I can skip through again, but only halfway consider it, I don't like messing with karma that way.

Sorry its not bogus

I don't have any sort of original copy to backup my story though, I suppose you could track the hotel clerk down and see if he remembers me and go from there.

Maybe the airport still has video from that long ago.


Just ETA: This was in late 2008, so well after 9/11 in case that makes a difference to you.

So your license was lost and you got though the gate with a copy.
In Obama instance, the first time around, Hawaii indicated there was no birth certificate as Brian requested. From that time to Feinstein approved Obama there was no birth certificate, and not even a copy was produced.
So Obama got through the gate, not only with a missing birth certificate, but also with not having to present even a copy.

Hence: People get through gates.

I suspect, with as loyal people are to Obama, as much as people or convinced copies are as good as orginals, Obama could have announced just before this last election he was truly not a citizen, and people would have voted for him anyway. So it really doesn't matter now about any copy or orginal documents.
I only surfaced the topic upon Tailz's Press release indicating the topic was scheduled for conference with SCOTUS. And have already said many time, the Supreme Court will probably never hear the complaint.

No problem, just wanted to clarify since you insinuated I was lying.

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>I suspect, with as loyal people are to Obama, as much as people or convinced
>copies are as good as orginals

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago."

Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy: "I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie: “Considering all of the investigations that have been
done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the
President‟s citizenship."

You were saying?

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>I suspect, with as loyal people are to Obama, as much as people or convinced
>copies are as good as orginals

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago."

Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy: "I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie: “Considering all of the investigations that have been
done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the
President‟s citizenship."

You were saying?

He was saying, as loyal as people are to Obama, and as much as they are convinced copies are as good as originals...

Obama could say he was a Kenyan and no one would mind.

I'm not sure how that logic flowed since I don't think the copies everyone supposedly accepts say he is a Kenyan....and I don't remember people claiming if he wasn't born in America it was OK for him to be running for president....


I figured I would just let it go since he didn't call me a liar again.

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>I suspect, with as loyal people are to Obama, as much as people or convinced
>copies are as good as orginals

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago."

Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy: "I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie: “Considering all of the investigations that have been
done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the
President‟s citizenship."

You were saying?

I don't know how many times I have to say it. You need to see the original not a copy to be convinced that the document is real.

Even Fukino proves my point. She agrees with me.

She's the only one who saw it. She's retired now and no one knows where she lives. She said no one else needs to see it. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9D4n6_Uifk

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Fucking racist morons.

Anyone who doesn't like that card can kiss my ass.

Got everybody pigeonholed nicely, I see.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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those are only questions that once again YOU apparently consider to be relevant and require n further response from anyone just because you demand an answer. Sounds like a whole bunch well-known practitioner of misdirection of muddling up the issue with more of your own rantings.

FIFY
You're angry again tonight TK. Why does it bother you that those two guys are having their own discussion?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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One can choose to believe or disbelieve any thing about any topic they want. I'd have to touch, see, smell the bound book from which the scan was made...

LOL...he wants to smell Obama's birth certificate. He and Orly Taitz are perfect for each other.

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I have a theory...

OH CHUTE and the old lady in Skydiving History who thinks her deceased husband was DB Cooper are in actuality one and the same person. The boldface and the ALL CAPS are dead giveaways...

...and both of them are Shah and he's pranking every one of us!

[tkhayes 348]

like, I said, just because I cannot answer some ridiculous question that only YOU consider to be important, does not actually make any of your argument any more valid.
It does not matter that I cannot answer you question.

I want YOU to answer the question of what EXACT AGE the universe is because I am contending that the universe was made by a spaghetti monster. Whether or not you can answer that question has little or no bearing on my claim.

Your augment is bunk. It always was bunk, and I will be stepping away from arguing once again with 'bunk-generators' so as to save myself some extra time in my life.

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Not one iota of the Obama birther nonsense would ever have existed if all of Obama's recent forbears had been of European ancestry. None. Belgian father? No problem. Nigerian father? Oh, he's a closet foreigner.

Fucking racist morons.

Anyone who doesn't like that card can kiss my ass.

I would not kiss your ass with kallends lips

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[Andy9o8 2]

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Fucking racist morons.

Anyone who doesn't like that card can kiss my ass.

Got everybody pigeonholed nicely, I see.

Ah, I see you're a Type 13(a). Typical.

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like, I said, just because I cannot answer some ridiculous question that only YOU consider to be important, does not actually make any of your argument any more valid.
It does not matter that I cannot answer you question.

I want YOU to answer the question of what EXACT AGE the universe is because I am contending that the universe was made by a spaghetti monster. Whether or not you can answer that question has little or no bearing on my claim.

Your augment is bunk. It always was bunk, and I will be stepping away from arguing once again with 'bunk-generators' so as to save myself some extra time in my life.

You seem pretty hostile and angry. I never took a position about validity of any document.

My argument is: an original document of anything is better than a copy especially a copy, or a seperate paper, not even a copy where information from the original is lacking. If you disagree then that is your opinion. I respect your opinion. But the idea you take a position claiming I think Obama is bogus is wrong. Mainly because I have no opinion on the matter. Perhaps the SC won't decide to work to develope an opinion either. Does that make the Supreme Court the bad guys. If they do take up the matter does that make them Birthers? I think not.

Since we are on the topic of questions: could you please tell me how a typist can put a bound book through the non electric ribbon style typewritter because the Corona typwriter I have, demonstrates it would be impossible to pass pages of a bound book through a typewriter. Plus why would any agency type up a single page, combine those pages with other papers and make a bound book out of so many birth certificates, especially when microfich was in use. Back then, most single pages were kept in folders, not collected and books made.

I can tell you're pretty emotional about this topic but if you just stop and THINK for a moment, if perhaps that is possible, you might concluded yourself that it would be difficult to run a book through the roller of a corona. NOT POSSIBLE.

But if you believe it possible, then that is your belief.
Perhaps the Supreme Court Justice knows you can't pass a book through any typewriter that they'll wonder and ask questions regarding any documents. But who knows.

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>Mainly because I have no opinion on the matter.

Of course! You're just "curious." You are "fascinated" by "all the discrepancies." You have no stake in the matter, but you "hope intelligent people will ask questions." You could absolutely, positively care less about the outcome, but certainly hope all the "clueless sheep wake up before it's too late."

>how a typist can put a bound book through the non electric ribbon style typewritter
>because the Corona typwriter I have, demonstrates it would be impossible to pass
>pages of a bound book through a typewriter.

You know who could do that? Hitler, that's who!

>Perhaps the Supreme Court Justice knows you can't pass a book through any
>typewriter that they'll wonder and ask questions regarding any documents.

It is likely that Chief Justice Roberts is, at this moment, thinking "dang, I wonder if I can continue the coverup? Can I just play dumb and hope no one catches onto the Corona - book thing?"

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Perhaps the Supreme Court Justice knows you can't pass a book through any typewriter that they'll wonder and ask questions regarding any documents. But who knows.

Again, no. WRONG. Why do you keep saying that?

It was submitted to a Clerk who put it on a docket. NO SUPREME COURT JUSTICE REVIEWED IT AND MADE A DECISION TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

I'll break it down into a very simple process for you. You mail in a petition for cert. If the Clerk cannot eliminate it on technical grounds (e.g., it's in the wrong font, it is not printed on white paper, it's not printed on black ink, they didn't pay the filing fee), then it goes on the calendar. At a conference of the Justices (which Ms. Taitz will NOT be at - nor will any other counsel), the Supremes decide which of the 10,000 per annum cert petitions they receive each year will be heard. They typically hear about 100.

Saying "ZOMG the Supremes are going to hear this" is like saying "I won the lottery because I bought a ticket." It's a necessary step, but it's not the only step.

If the Supremes GRANT cert, they will hear it. Until then, you have absolutely nothing of any substance. Do you understand now?

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Even Fukino proves my point. She agrees with me.

She's the only one who saw it. She's retired now and no one knows where she lives. She said no one else needs to see it. .

That's almost convincing, apart from the fact that it's a pack of lies.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I never took a position about validity of any document.

That's almost convincing, apart from the fact that it's a lie.

"Looks pretty convincing to me. How do end up with a Connecticut Issued Social Secuity number when he was supposedly born in Hawaii. This guy is bogus."

Do you want to have an ideagasm?