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[rushmc 23]

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IMO, the state issued CWP is a much more secure form.
ANY legal actions that would disqualify a person is processed in a relatively timely manner - at least based on my understanding of how this process works in FL anyway. The felon database and the CWP database appear to communicate quite efficiently.

In Iowa it is the same check

One just lasts longer

The sherifs do the back ground check and then issue the paper

Hell, then even asked me about an arrest I had where I got a deffered judgement

All they wanted to know if I was arrested and the records were correct

They did not care why because it was defered

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[lawrocket 3]

My primary problem was in performing background checks to prevent mentally ill from getting guns when HIPAA and the 1st Amendment preclude it.

The President has called for steps to address "unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to [HIPAA]." That goes to my issue (2): They will be largely ineffective considering the right to privacy enunciated in Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade – the penumbra of rights under the 14th Amendment

So the President is suggesting removing a privacy barrier. That's scary.

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[OHCHUTE 0]

Here goes another billion dollars. Like I need training on how to sell gun via private sales that I'm doing with commerical sales already. I worry about confiscation, and how they'll determine state of mind for ceasing guns. State rules are worse than this...

[GeorgiaDon 362]

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In Iowa, a person can go to the local sherif and get what is called a permit to purchase. You fill out the form, wait 3 days and get a permit that states you are legal to buy, costs $5 bucks and is good for a year. If the buyer provides this then the sale is good to go. NO PAPER WORK NEEDED

This sort of thing seems like a reasonable idea to me. Is it backed up by any penalties for selling to someone without a permit, or for forging a permit?

Don

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[Skyrad 0]

In the UK if you want a firearms licence then you have to give permission for the Police to speak to your Dr and ask them if they know of any reason why you should be refused a firearm, the grounds for which are mental health problems, depression, epilepsy or any condition likely to make you emotionally unstable or potentially dangerous physically. However if you had diabetes for example and it was well controlled then there is no reason for declining your application but someone with a history of poorly controlled diabetes would be unlikely to have their application accepted. I don't see a problem with this, the police can't get your medical history on a whim you have to give permission.

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[Anvilbrother 0]

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16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."

None of your fucking business, im here for a flu shot. DOCTOR!

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[Stumpy 284]

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In Iowa, a person can go to the local sherif and get what is called a permit to purchase. You fill out the form, wait 3 days and get a permit that states you are legal to buy, costs $5 bucks and is good for a year. If the buyer provides this then the sale is good to go. NO PAPER WORK NEEDED

This sort of thing seems like a reasonable idea to me.

Agreed.

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[billvon 2,990]

>Full agreement. I've bought at shows. They are set up to do the background check
>right then and there. And guess what? It's a background check. Been doing it for years.

Again, that only applies to licensed dealers. And I have no problem with that. If everyone who sells or transfers a weapon at a gun show (or at any such event, public or private) does that, then great.

Unfortunately there are ways around that - hence the loophole.

[lawrocket 3]

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In the UK if you want a firearms licence then you have to give permission for the Police to speak to your Dr and ask them if they know of any reason why you should be refused a firearm, the grounds for which are mental health problems, depression, epilepsy or any condition likely to make you emotionally unstable or potentially dangerous physically.

England has no right to privacy under common law. There are specific exceptions build into the codified privacy rights in the UK for
- Acting in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country.
- Acting for the prevention of disorder or crime.
- Acting for the protection of health or morals.
- Acting for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

The American right of privacy is far beyond the UK's. We have the first, 4th, 5th Amendments to handle just these things. The government asking a doctor for medical conditions? A doctor here would demand a subpoena.

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[Anvilbrother 0]

I saw something today while I was buying some guns at a pawn shop.

"Persons who pawn guns must submit to a FFL background check when coming to get those guns out of pawn."

Having worked at my brother in laws pawn shop when I was in high school and 90% of the customers were African American, I couldn't believe the ACLU, or the left never jumped on that and say its oppressive to people who are just there to get some money for food.

Just like they tried to stop our parish from having liquor sales on Sunday because it gave people in urban areas too much easy access to liquor. They basically said that all black people in urban areas are alcoholics, and it was racist to open on sunday to fuel their addiction. Funny how no one ever called them out on saying it was racist to say all poor blacks were drunks.

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[Skyrad 0]

We have the right to privacy in the UK protected by law under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights.
We are also covered by the data protection act which is very stringent for digital information governance.

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[Southern_Man 0]

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In the UK if you want a firearms licence then you have to give permission for the Police to speak to your Dr and ask them if they know of any reason why you should be refused a firearm, the grounds for which are mental health problems, depression, epilepsy or any condition likely to make you emotionally unstable or potentially dangerous physically. However if you had diabetes for example and it was well controlled then there is no reason for declining your application but someone with a history of poorly controlled diabetes would be unlikely to have their application accepted. I don't see a problem with this, the police can't get your medical history on a whim you have to give permission.

The only Dr. I've been to in the last 4 years is my eye doctor. I guess they can ask him about my mental health. I don't have a primary care physican.

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[rushmc 23]

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In Iowa, a person can go to the local sherif and get what is called a permit to purchase. You fill out the form, wait 3 days and get a permit that states you are legal to buy, costs $5 bucks and is good for a year. If the buyer provides this then the sale is good to go. NO PAPER WORK NEEDED

This sort of thing seems like a reasonable idea to me. Is it backed up by any penalties for selling to someone without a permit, or for forging a permit?

Don

There is but I dont know what they are

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[Stumpy 284]

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IThey basically said that all black people in urban areas are alcoholics, and it was racist to open on sunday to fuel their addiction.

"Basically" said, or ACTUALLY said? Is it them implying that they are racist, or you?

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[kallend 2,026]

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>What gun show loophole?

People can sell guns at a gun show without a background check - and thus it is an excellent place for a criminal to obtain a weapon illegally.

False. Anytime a citizen purchases a gun from a dealer, he must submit to a background check. Gun shows are no exception.

In 33 states you can sell weapons at a gunshow without being a dealer, and no background check is needed. AKA LOOPHOLE. Pretending ignorance just makes you look sillier.

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[billvon 2,990]

>None of your fucking business, im here for a flu shot. DOCTOR!

That's fine. But in this case:

Patient: "I'm here for a flu shot."
Cops: "We picked him up waving a sign around telling people he would kill everyone at his place of work."
Doctor: "Ah. Do you have any guns in your home?"
Patient: "None of your fucking business, im here for a flu shot."
Doctor: "Officer, maybe you'd better check out his house."

[Skyrad 0]

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[GeorgiaDon 362]

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16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."

None of your fucking business, im here for a flu shot. DOCTOR!

As if doctors have either the time or the interest to ask about guns when you're there about a flu shot. Your doctor must be seriously underemployed if they have time to focus on anything other than the complaint for which you made an appointment.

On the other hand, how about a patient who comes in and tells the doctor "Yeah Doc, ever since my whole family died in that car wreck I wonder why God didn't take me too. I just don't feel there's anything left to live for." Should that doctor be prohibited from asking if there are any guns in the house?

Don

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[lawrocket 3]

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We have the right to privacy in the UK protected by law under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights.
We are also covered by the data protection act which is very stringent for digital information governance.

I pointed out the specific exceptions to Article 8. They are right there in the 1998 Act.

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[Anvilbrother 0]

Those were questions the cop would have asked anyways.

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[Skwrl 56]

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[airdvr 210]

I've racked my brains for days thinking about a fair solution that doesn't piss off too many. Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

What about some sort of titling of guns, like you title a vehicle. Is it possible to control the sale of ammo to only those who can prove they hold title to the weapon?

Vehicle sales are very controlled through the titling process. Maybe there is something that could be learned.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

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I've racked my brains for days thinking about a fair solution that doesn't piss off too many. Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

What about some sort of titling of guns, like you title a vehicle. Is it possible to control the sale of ammo to only those who can prove they hold title to the weapon?

Vehicle sales are very controlled through the titling process. Maybe there is something that could be learned.

Titling guns will have as much effect on crime as titling cars has had on auto theft.

[killler 2]

Just saw a poll over at yahoo....

33% Support Obama's gun plan

8% Think it does not go far enough with restrictions

59% Think it goes to far with restrictions

Killler

[quade 4]

I think you need to look at all the polls and not simply one.

Go on over to pollingreport.com and get a wider view.

Here, let me make that even easier for you.
http://pollingreport.com/guns.htm

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