23 Proposals?

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I've racked my brains for days thinking about a fair solution that doesn't piss off too many. Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

What about some sort of titling of guns, like you title a vehicle. Is it possible to control the sale of ammo to only those who can prove they hold title to the weapon?

Vehicle sales are very controlled through the titling process. Maybe there is something that could be learned.

Titling guns will have as much effect on crime as titling cars has had on auto theft.

Can ammunition be controlled?

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Anvilbrother 0]

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Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

How many of the recent 3 mass murders happened with a weapon that was bought around the proper channels?

Your going to save lives by

1. Requiring a good background check on all purchases that include criminal and mental illness history that would preclude you from safely owning one.

2. More firearms education and awareness so people treat and use them correctly, and are not simply scared to even hear the word GUN!

3. People securing their firearms when not under their direct control to prevent thieves or mental ill from accessing them.

4. Changing the music and movie scene to stop glorifying guns. Can you even name a handful of hit movies this year that did not include a gun somewhere(not including animated films).

5. Active shooter training and response awareness for EVERYONE

6. Getting illegal guns off the street

7. Enforce the laws on the book to the full extent for people who use guns in crimes, and not let them off easy to get back in "the game".

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Councilwoman Tara Wicker said removing the restrictions could disproportionately affect urban neighborhoods.

“My larger issue is what impact that has on those urban areas that are already suffering from on oversaturation of alcohol outlets,” Wicker said. “The fear is that the more we lessen the restrictions, the more the availability there is, it causes adverse effects.”

Urban neighborhoods with a high concentration of alcohol-selling establishments have higher crime rates, Wicker said.

Some stores opened up calling themselves “grocery stores” but sell little more than alcohol, Wicker said.

“What defines a grocery store versus a liquor store?” she asked. “The last thing I want to do is provide them with additional time and opportunity to do what they are already doing, which is killing those neighborhoods.”

Wicker said Gary let her know in advance of her plan to introduce the amendment.

“We agreed to disagree,” she said. “She understands that my focus is to protect that urban core.”

Councilman Scott Wilson said he anticipates supporting the measure.

“I don’t have a problem with it,” he said.

Fact or racist, can it be both?

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[killler 2]

I don't know quade... the polls you have pointed out are only 800 to 1300 people.... The yahoo poll is 320,000 people... I think yahoo is a larger sample and looking at the multi questions ask it hard to come to a finding...

For example : in the top poll cnn/time they ask if you favor or oppose stricter gun laws 65% favor and 44% oppose . Then they ask will stricter gun laws reduce violence .... only 39% think it would reduce it and 61% think it will not reduce it... So it makes no sense to pass more stupid gun laws...

Killler....

[Stumpy 284]

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Councilwoman Tara Wicker said removing the restrictions could disproportionately affect urban neighborhoods.

“My larger issue is what impact that has on those urban areas that are already suffering from on oversaturation of alcohol outlets,” Wicker said. “The fear is that the more we lessen the restrictions, the more the availability there is, it causes adverse effects.”

Urban neighborhoods with a high concentration of alcohol-selling establishments have higher crime rates, Wicker said.

Some stores opened up calling themselves “grocery stores” but sell little more than alcohol, Wicker said.

“What defines a grocery store versus a liquor store?” she asked. “The last thing I want to do is provide them with additional time and opportunity to do what they are already doing, which is killing those neighborhoods.”

Wicker said Gary let her know in advance of her plan to introduce the amendment.

“We agreed to disagree,” she said. “She understands that my focus is to protect that urban core.”

Councilman Scott Wilson said he anticipates supporting the measure.

“I don’t have a problem with it,” he said.

Fact or racist, can it be both?

I don't see any references to colour in there. She is making some causation/correlation logical jumps - but its you who brought colour into it? The same correlations are likely in predominantly white neighbourhoods of a certain demographic.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[Stumpy 284]

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Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

How many of the recent 3 mass murders happened with a weapon that was bought around the proper channels?

Your going to save lives by

1. Requiring a good background check on all purchases that include criminal and mental illness history that would preclude you from safely owning one.

2. More firearms education and awareness so people treat and use them correctly, and are not simply scared to even hear the word GUN!

3. People securing their firearms when not under their direct control to prevent thieves or mental ill from accessing them.

4. Changing the music and movie scene to stop glorifying guns. Can you even name a handful of hit movies this year that did not include a gun somewhere(not including animated films).

5. Active shooter training and response awareness for EVERYONE

6. Getting illegal guns off the street

7. Enforce the laws on the book to the full extent for people who use guns in crimes, and not let them off easy to get back in "the game".

1. Totally agree
2. Agree.
3. Agree
4. The movie scene caters to the market. When people stop going to action movies then the movie scene will stop glorifying guns. Outside of that, it becomes a first amendment problem. I would suggest the bigger problem glorifying guns is the NRA. I also dont know if I agree that it would make a difference to change movies/computer games - is there anything proven that says that this causes these problems? (genuine question)
5. Its a good idea I suppose. Treat it like natural disaster training, earthquake and the like. Key is it needs to be short, and very simple.
6.Yes
7. Absolutely.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[Anvilbrother 0]

The urban area they are talking about is probably 80% black. She was not referring to urban in the classic dictionary sense.

So substitute urban neighborhood with black and re read it

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[davjohns 1]

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I've racked my brains for days thinking about a fair solution that doesn't piss off too many. Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

What about some sort of titling of guns, like you title a vehicle. Is it possible to control the sale of ammo to only those who can prove they hold title to the weapon?

Vehicle sales are very controlled through the titling process. Maybe there is something that could be learned.

Gun registration will never be a compromise issue. England, Australia and Canada pitched it as a compromise, then used it to confiscate. I will never go for it.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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If you adopt reporting laws used for other crimes against children you will find your answer. Reporting a person with violent tendencies who has access to guns, or making guns available to those who have those tendencies might be the answer. But this is too easy.

[davjohns 1]

I'm all for reasonable reporting requirements. They are common sense and really shouldn't require laws. But today, right and wrong seems to be synonymous with legal and illegal, doesn't it?

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[Southern_Man 0]

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If you adopt reporting laws used for other crimes against children you will find your answer. Reporting a person with violent tendencies who has access to guns, or making guns available to those who have those tendencies might be the answer. But this is too easy.

How effective are those reporting mechanisms? Do you have any contact with that system or any idea?

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[billvon 2,991]

>Those were questions the cop would have asked anyways.

In most cases, yes. This is a reminder that they should _always_ ask.

[normiss 800]

I have friends that have had their children removed from their home due to an anonymous call reporting them for crimes against their own kids when no such crime ever occurred.

Care to guess how much that costs to sort out???

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If you adopt reporting laws used for other crimes against children you will find your answer. Reporting a person with violent tendencies who has access to guns, or making guns available to those who have those tendencies might be the answer. But this is too easy.

How effective are those reporting mechanisms? Do you have any contact with that system or any idea?

Don't have any idea and perhaps once the authorities are involved shit goes to hell. But if the kid is out back shooting at trees and yelling he's going to kill everyone, might cause for come intervention. Especially if you can't get the gun from him and get him calmed down. I suppose every situation is different. Guys have been busted just for saying: "I'm going to kill that idiot." As an expression not as any threat. etc.

[skypuppy 1]

There is however the bigger picture of 15,000 homicides annually in this country, the great majority committed by people with criminal records that should have precluded them from getting a firearm. Obviously these people are not buying from dealers or going through a background check at present.


see, you're not even using the real figures. from what I read it's around 8600 firearms-related homicides,, and 600 are classified as justified.

and then you say this

In the very long run there could be useful positive feedbacks in the system. Getting guns out of criminal hands could decrease the frequency of violent crime, reducing the perception amongst the law abiding that they need to be armed to the teeth,

when the available data from australia and Uk seem to show no noticeable effect on violent crime from their weapons bans....

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[skypuppy 1]

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Here goes another billion dollars. Like I need training on how to sell gun via private sales that I'm doing with commerical sales already. I worry about confiscation, and how they'll determine state of mind for ceasing guns. State rules are worse than this...

As soon as you separate or get divorced, chances are good they'll take your guns...

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[skypuppy 1]

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I've racked my brains for days thinking about a fair solution that doesn't piss off too many. Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

What about some sort of titling of guns, like you title a vehicle. Is it possible to control the sale of ammo to only those who can prove they hold title to the weapon?

Vehicle sales are very controlled through the titling process. Maybe there is something that could be learned.

sounds like registration to me. soon as you register they'll know exactly where to go to confiscate it.

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[skypuppy 1]

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16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."

None of your fucking business, im here for a flu shot. DOCTOR!

As if doctors have either the time or the interest to ask about guns when you're there about a flu shot. Your doctor must be seriously underemployed if they have time to focus on anything other than the complaint for which you made an appointment.

On the other hand, how about a patient who comes in and tells the doctor "Yeah Doc, ever since my whole family died in that car wreck I wonder why God didn't take me too. I just don't feel there's anything left to live for." Should that doctor be prohibited from asking if there are any guns in the house?

Don

Doctors don't even like to get involved with depriving seniors of the right to drive because of medical conditions. I can see they'll leap all over themselves to invade the privacy of their patients and relay information to cops leading to confiscation of firearms. We've even seen in the Aurora incident how a psychologist (or psychiatrist) with valid concerns over safety deliberately did not notify police of a serious danger.

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[Southern_Man 0]

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I have friends that have had their children removed from their home due to an anonymous call reporting them for crimes against their own kids when no such crime ever occurred.

Care to guess how much that costs to sort out???

Yes, it's not a very good system. I don't think it is one we want to recreate.

I've also seen the opposite, where there was a report made and there was abuse going on, but the sytem was not capable or willing to take effective action.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[regulator 0]

I see in the 23 proposals there mentions NOTHING about the entertainment industry. Yet Biden chose to incorporate them into his study, but no proposals about how to curtail the influences young minds see while watching TV.

[Skyrad 0]

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I've racked my brains for days thinking about a fair solution that doesn't piss off too many. Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

What about some sort of titling of guns, like you title a vehicle. Is it possible to control the sale of ammo to only those who can prove they hold title to the weapon?

Vehicle sales are very controlled through the titling process. Maybe there is something that could be learned.

No the problem is crazy people with guns, ban crazy people.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[lawrocket 3]

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I have friends that have had their children removed from their home due to an anonymous call reporting them for crimes against their own kids when no such crime ever occurred.

My wife said to me last night that people don't realize how easily a psychiatrist could fuck up anybody by giving a person a 5150. Even if it's not justified it will always be there. And she's frequently mentioned that it's a power she has that she thinks should be subject to judicial review.

She has the power to do it to anybody. And even if she did it with malice, the report will always be there. Scary thought and she knows it.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[regulator 0]

So I assume the document you are referring to has nothing to do with this?

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I've racked my brains for days thinking about a fair solution that doesn't piss off too many. Seems the big problem is undocumented sales of guns.

What about some sort of titling of guns, like you title a vehicle. Is it possible to control the sale of ammo to only those who can prove they hold title to the weapon?

Vehicle sales are very controlled through the titling process. Maybe there is something that could be learned.

Gun registration will never be a compromise issue. England, Australia and Canada pitched it as a compromise, then used it to confiscate. I will never go for it.

Not really correct in the UK, we still have 1.8 million guns here. True its very difficult to own semi auto longs that are centerfire but we can have semi auto rimfire (with whatever capacity mags we want). we can have .50 longs and straight pull centerfire ARs and single shot centre fire longs. We can have black powder pistols and so long as they are long enough we can have other handguns (Think .357 Rossi revolvers with long barrels). We can have semi auto Shotguns as well as double barrel two shot shotguns. Really they just restricted the handguns and the semi auto longs. (Which is a pain but we still have access to other firearms) Also we can have silencers if we want.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[lawrocket 3]

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I see in the 23 proposals there mentions NOTHING about the entertainment industry. Yet Biden chose to incorporate them into his study, but no proposals about how to curtail the influences young minds see while watching TV.

You think he wants to lose the support of Katzenberg, Lynton, Medavoy, Rothman, etc? Or the hundreds of entertainers that were vocal in their support of him?

Hell, no. Think he’s going to mess with 50 Cent and Jay Z?

My wife is hotter than your wife.