kallend 2,026 #51 January 18, 2013 QuoteQuote> Why does anyone need a car with 400 horsepower? No reason. No one needs to skydive either. >Why does anyone need a car that will accelerate from zero to 60 mph in 6 seconds? Again, no reason. > I think it's time to ban these dangerous high-capacity assault vehicles. You've made an illogical jump from "people don't need them" to "so therefore they are dangerous." ...and in doing so he's got some of the makings of a decent metaphor to the assault weapons ban, but he is missing a step... The step missing in his jump is to assert that the features being talked about are surely only useful to someone intending to use the vehicle in an illegal way. That's why I proposed banning anything more than 3 forward gears. You only really need a couple gears to accelerate safely to any legal speed, and a cruising gear to get good gas milage on the freeway. Any additional gears are just used to accelerate/drive recklessly. CVTs technically have more than 3 gear ratios and electric motors are usually direct drive, but I reserve the right not to think my proposed law through. Banning wheels greater than 17" in diamater is because I've seen commericals for the Fast and Furious movies and all those cars looked like they had big rims and those people were all illegally street racing. But I'm not here to take all your cars... you can keep the ones you have, I'm just making it illegal to produce any vehicles with these features in the future. I think this will reduce street-racing related deaths. How about 4 reverse gears for a quick retreat, like Italian tanks?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #52 January 18, 2013 QuoteYet we still do not take away your car nor alcohol because others drive DUI. Has someone taken away your gun?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #53 January 18, 2013 QuoteHow about 4 reverse gears for a quick retreat, like Italian tanks? You can have as many reverse gears as you like, but no painting "This is the back of the car, officer." on the front of your car. hmm... are there legal precedents in place to preclude the interpretation of numbers in statutes as radices other than 10? "This is quite clearly a 10 round magazine." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRish 0 #54 January 20, 2013 QuoteSome of us drive our high performance cars at the limit where they were engineered to operate. Yeah, but what right do you have to do that and endanger the public? For the sake of protecting innocents, such high performance cars should be banned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRish 0 #55 January 20, 2013 QuoteNo argument from me. I wish there was some sort of tiered use restriction on them. I see far too many idiots who drive them as if they are weapons and only have a single passenger in them. While their use in business and rural areas make sense, they make no sense whatsoever for the vast majority of people I see drive them in Los Angeles. Darned right! You should have to prove that you have a need for such a vehicle, and then pay extra for registration, insurance and training to operate it. The government should determine who can have such cars, and under what conditions they can be operated. They're not for everybody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRish 0 #56 January 20, 2013 Quote That being said, do you have proof that those vehicles are the cause? Again, it's the blame the inanimate object, not the person using it argument. We don't need no stinkin' proof! What counts is that we can get everyone stirred up emotionally in order to pass some instant rules and regulations to control these dangerous vehicles, and stop the massacre. And even if they're really only involved in a small portion of traffic accidents, well, we'll still feel much better psychologically as a nation for "doing something" about the problem, and we'll be better off without them anyway. And if a minority of people have to do without something they love, so be it. Damn the facts and statistics, let's do it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRish 0 #57 January 20, 2013 QuoteQuoteEvery year in America there are 35,000 people killed in auto accidents, 200,000 incapacitated, and two million injured. Why does anyone need a car with 400 horsepower? Why does anyone need a car that will accelerate from zero to 60 mph in 6 seconds? Why does anyone need a car with a top speed of 150 mph? Why does anyone need a SUV that weighs 6,000 pounds? I think it's time to ban these dangerous high-capacity assault vehicles. Do it for the children. If it will save just one life, it will be worth it. I demand that the President immediately issue a series of executive orders to deal with this ongoing massacre. I think you should have to pass a test and have a license in order to be able to own one, and then it should have to be registered. Oh wait..... Yeah, but despite all those tests, licenses and registrations, we still have car carnage. So it's time to move beyond bureaucratic regulation which doesn't work, and just outright ban the darned things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRish 0 #58 January 20, 2013 QuoteSome of us operate our guns correctly and safely at the range, competition, hunting, and in the home. Never understood why everyone on the news or radio only thing a gun is used for one purpose. Who said anything about guns? Please keep that stuff in other appropriate threads. This one is about dangerous car control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites