Fast 0 #1 January 21, 2013 http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/futureoftech/us-representative-calls-outlawing-3-d-printed-gun-magazines-1B8035746 This is a stunning example of the people who run this country being out of touch with reality. There is no feasible or practical way of stopping people from doing this. Sure, it's one more thing that you could prosecute someone with who is already breaking the law, but most of the nut jobs kill themselves anyways or are already breaking a substantial number of laws. To me it demonstrates a lack of understanding what's reasonable or not. Efforts need to be focused on things that can be controlled.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #2 January 21, 2013 You can make laws to outlaw anything you want. But if the law is essentially unenforceable then it makes a mockery of the judicial system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #3 January 21, 2013 QuoteYou can make laws to outlaw anything you want. But if the law is essentially unenforceable then it makes a mockery of the judicial system. I don't know about that. If there's a 20 year mandatory prison sentence for being in possession of one, then it will surely discourage a lot of Rambo wannabes. It would, for example, be difficult to hide it if you took it to a range to test it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 January 21, 2013 Quote Quote You can make laws to outlaw anything you want. But if the law is essentially unenforceable then it makes a mockery of the judicial system. I don't know about that. If there's a 20 year mandatory prison sentence for being in possession of one, then it will surely discourage a lot of Rambo wannabes. It would, for example, be difficult to hide it if you took it to a range to test it. Of course you know that for fact Seeing the acuracy of your mind reading machineBTW I NEVER go to a range I dont like the crowds Many other options"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #5 January 21, 2013 QuoteQuoteYou can make laws to outlaw anything you want. But if the law is essentially unenforceable then it makes a mockery of the judicial system. I don't know about that. If there's a 20 year mandatory prison sentence for being in possession of one, then it will surely discourage a lot of Rambo wannabes. It would, for example, be difficult to hide it if you took it to a range to test it. And who would they pay to check each magazine to see if it was made commercially or not? That bill doesn't outlaw existing high capacity magazines or even the current commercially available magazines. I think you are assuming a total ban on high capacity magazines and not just future sales. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #6 January 21, 2013 QuoteQuoteYou can make laws to outlaw anything you want. But if the law is essentially unenforceable then it makes a mockery of the judicial system. I don't know about that. If there's a 20 year mandatory prison sentence for being in possession of one, then it will surely discourage a lot of Rambo wannabes. It would, for example, be difficult to hide it if you took it to a range to test it. Some one risking a life sentence or execution for each murder won't be dissuaded by the additional penalty. People who don't commit murder don't commit murder regardless of what weapons they own. Since 1934 only two out of the 240,000 machine guns legally owned by private citizens have been used in crimes, the last by a corrupt Ohio police officer who decided to use his MAC sub-machine gun to murder an informant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #7 January 21, 2013 Thanks for letting us know the author of the bill is not in the 3D printing business or own stock in one. While we are at it could we list all the stock Steve owns and the legislation he does support that might influence stock prices in his favor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueblur 0 #8 January 21, 2013 QuoteQuoteYou can make laws to outlaw anything you want. But if the law is essentially unenforceable then it makes a mockery of the judicial system. I don't know about that. If there's a 20 year mandatory prison sentence for being in possession of one, then it will surely discourage a lot of Rambo wannabes. It would, for example, be difficult to hide it if you took it to a range to test it. Hell, the last range I went to with my AR is outside a tiny little town in the woods of Georgia, run by one kind old gentleman who can do a helluva triggerjob on a 1911. Tell me what BATFE agent is stationed there to check every magazine and gun part for legallity?In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts. - RiggerLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueblur 0 #9 January 21, 2013 Not to mention the fact that the legislation itself is flawed. They state "undetectable weapons"... yet the fail to understand that the spring inside is metal, the bullets are copper and lead, the casings are brass, not even considering the fact that the whole of the gun contains detectable metal, steel barrel anyone?In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts. - RiggerLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #10 January 21, 2013 Yeah, I didn't address that part. So silly, it's the old plastic gun bullshit that people used on Glocks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #11 January 22, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou can make laws to outlaw anything you want. But if the law is essentially unenforceable then it makes a mockery of the judicial system. I don't know about that. If there's a 20 year mandatory prison sentence for being in possession of one, then it will surely discourage a lot of Rambo wannabes. It would, for example, be difficult to hide it if you took it to a range to test it. Hell, the last range I went to with my AR is outside a tiny little town in the woods of Georgia, run by one kind old gentleman who can do a helluva triggerjob on a 1911. Tell me what BATFE agent is stationed there to check every magazine and gun part for legallity? Are you suggesting that owners of gun ranges are in the habit of aiding and abetting criminals?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #12 January 22, 2013 Don't fall for it blueblur...... Quote Hell, the last range I went to with my AR is outside a tiny little town in the woods of Georgia, run by one kind old gentleman.... Funny but I have had the same experience....back woods of North Georgia. Lots of clear liquids too...in case you were having digestive problems, ya know. Funny too was that the bow hunters were out in force at the range....side by side. Hey! If you carry more than 10 arrows, is it an "assault bow"?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 362 #13 January 22, 2013 QuoteHey! If you carry more than 10 arrows, is it an "assault bow"? It is if you shoot like this girl. (Repost, I know, discussed in [url "http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4336887;search_string=%26quot%3Blookit%20this%20chick%26quot%3B;#4336887"]this thread.) Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 January 22, 2013 QuoteHey! If you carry more than 10 arrows, is it an "assault bow"? If it has a spear lug it certainly is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #15 January 22, 2013 QuoteHey! If you carry more than 10 arrows, is it an "assault bow"? If it looks intimidating, yes.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #16 January 22, 2013 QuoteYeah, I didn't address that part. So silly, it's the old plastic gun bullshit that people used on Glocks. --------------------------------------------------------- Reminds me of the first 'die hard' movie. Bruce Willis said that Glocks were made out of porcelain and were undetectable by metal detectors. Which is just as laughable as the supposed logic behind any of kallends posts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #17 January 22, 2013 I was the first officer in my department to carry a Glock. I was in the ER one day and the Xray techs were asking about it. They had to Xray it to prove to themselves that all they had heard was not true. I had the Xray for a long time. It was clearly a gun. Metal throughout the weapon. But they were fed a line by the media and bought it. That piece of drivel is still out there and being believed by people.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 January 22, 2013 http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/30/15574250-bow-and-arrow-type-attack-leaves-3-dead-in-casper-wyo-including-2-in-college-classroom-officials-say?lite We need background checks on these. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #19 January 22, 2013 QuoteQuoteYeah, I didn't address that part. So silly, it's the old plastic gun bullshit that people used on Glocks. --------------------------------------------------------- Reminds me of the first 'die hard' movie. Bruce Willis said that Glocks were made out of porcelain and were undetectable by metal detectors. Which is just as laughable as the supposed logic behind any of kallends posts. Hell, I have a few ceramic blades with plastic and rubber handles that will NOT show up on metal detectors, but they sure as hell will show up on the airport x-ray machines as the density is enough to alert the tech to take a closer look.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #20 January 22, 2013 Quotehttp://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/30/15574250-bow-and-arrow-type-attack-leaves-3-dead-in-casper-wyo-including-2-in-college-classroom-officials-say?lite We need background checks on these. I'm just speculating but if the guy killed himself with a bow and arrow that would be impressive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #21 January 22, 2013 Quote Are you suggesting that owners of gun ranges are in the habit of aiding and abetting criminals? No. Are you suggesting every person who works as a range officer should be a sworn law enforcement officer? I volunteer as a range officer. Anything that is obviously illegal is questioned (short barrelled and silencers) and if the shooter doesn't have the proper paperwork, they are asked put it away. But are you expecting me to run every gun through a database (that doesn't currently exist, nor do I have any means to access one)? And just how, exactly, am I supposed to determine if a magazine is a post-ban homemade version or a pre-ban legal version?"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
