Andy9o8 2 #101 February 3, 2013 QuoteQuoteCan anyone actually shed some light on the question that started this topic: Was there an automatic AR15 style (Bushmaster) rifle used to kill the children in Newtown? Or is the MSNBC commentator correct - quoting that the killings were done with 4 handguns, and not any rifle with 30 round magazine capacity? www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4220548.php Quote \Lt. J. Paul Vance, the face of an ongoing Connecticut State Police investigation into worst grade-school shooting in U.S. history, Thursday debunked media and Internet reports that Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza killed his victims with handguns and not the Bushmaster XM-15 E2S rifle that is now the focus of a proposed federal assault-weapons ban. All 26 of Lanza's victims were shot with the .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle, said Vance, who bristled at claims to the contrary during an interview with Hearst Connecticut Newspapers. "It's all these conspiracy theorists that are trying to mucky up the waters," said Vance, the longtime state police spokesman. Multiple Second Amendment and gun owner websites have attempted to cast doubts on whether the Bushmaster XM-15, a type of AR-15 rifle that is currently legal, was used in the Dec. 14 carnage done by Lanza. Some have cited a Dec. 15 "Today" show video clip from the day after the shooting, in which NBC News Justice Department correspondent Pete Williams said that four handguns were recovered inside Sandy Hook Elementary School and that the Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of a car owned by Lanza's slain mother, Nancy Lanza. "There's no doubt that the rifle was used solely to kill 26 people in that school," Vance said. Twenty children ages 7 and under and six female educators were killed when Lanza forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School and sprayed the occupants with bullets before turning a gun on himself. Vance said he made it abundantly clear during his media briefings since the tragedy that Lanza carried out the shooting with the Bushmaster. "I personally articulated that probably a dozen times in Newtown," Vance said. The above excerpt, Copyright 2013 ctpost.com, was quoted for fair use, and particularly educational, purposes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #102 February 3, 2013 http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?A=4226&Q=517284"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayevee8toryear 0 #103 February 4, 2013 QuoteI'll bet ayevee8toryear knows all about thermite though. LOL, Some people will deny any old conspiracy theory even if they know themselves they are wrong. As long as the majority agree then they feel safe, is that correct? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOC1J44RYw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #104 February 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteI'll bet ayevee8toryear knows all about thermite though. LOL, Some people will deny any old conspiracy theory even if they know themselves they are wrong. As long as the majority agree then they feel safe, is that correct? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOC1J44RYw Put it this way: when both turtlespeed and I think you need to be fitted for a foil hat, you need the hat. Yeah, I know: wake up and smell the coffee. Well, I'm going to bed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #105 February 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteI'll bet ayevee8toryear knows all about thermite though. LOL, Some people will deny any old conspiracy theory even if they know themselves they are wrong. As long as the majority agree then they feel safe, is that correct? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOC1J44RYw weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/im-telling-you-the-man-and-the-dog-are-working-together.jpg... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #106 March 28, 2013 www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-idUSBRE92R0EM20130328... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #107 March 28, 2013 Quotewww.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-idUSBRE92R0EM20130328 154 round in 5 minutes? Is this supposed to be extreme? Think about it At 3000 feet you got what, 8 seconds to deploy?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #108 March 28, 2013 (Just using your post to reply too) It was reported last week that this nut, had spread sheets of all the mass school schootings he could find reports on. That same report said his goal was to be the number 1 mass murderer for school shootings I wonder what laws (currently being debated) would have stopped him?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #109 March 28, 2013 QuoteQuotewww.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-idUSBRE92R0EM20130328 154 round in 5 minutes? Is this supposed to be extreme? Think about it At 3000 feet you got what, 8 seconds to deploy? 19 seconds, normally, minus a couple close to the ground...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #110 March 29, 2013 QuoteQuotewww.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-idUSBRE92R0EM20130328 154 round in 5 minutes? Is this supposed to be extreme? Rather more than you could achieve with the muzzle loaders the authors of the 2nd Amendment were familiar with. I seriously doubt they envisaged a firearm that could kill 26 people in 5 minutes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #111 March 29, 2013 meaningless"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #112 March 29, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuotewww.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-idUSBRE92R0EM20130328 154 round in 5 minutes? Is this supposed to be extreme? Rather more than you could achieve with the muzzle loaders the authors of the 2nd Amendment were familiar with. I seriously doubt they envisaged a firearm that could kill 26 people in 5 minutes. Is this post of yours part of Operation: Abundant Clarity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites