livendive 8 #151 March 5, 2013 Quote Funny thing - private sectors cut and furlough, etc, all the time. and just taking more from the public to pay for these jobs -> I'd like to see all the e-mails from those employers that note how many people would be laid off to just continue the current outrageous growth in government. I don’t work directly for the government, but I do work for a company who works for a company who works for the government, and I do wear a government badge to work every day. I just received an okay pay raise that took effect yesterday…by okay, I mean right around a cost of living raise, which is pretty good considering my employer has had a pay freeze for three of the last four years, and a modest 1.5% pool the other year. In the last 18 months, the rather large project I’m working on has reduced staffing by nearly 65 percent through early retirement plans (a few) and involuntary reductions of force (the vast majority). With the exception of myself and a bean counter guy, one entire group I was in was canned, including my boss, and I was absorbed up one layer. Work efficiency has dropped dramatically, because the labor cuts were heavily loaded against the older folks with all the historical knowledge…now trying to answer a question or figure out how someone’s process works is incredibly more difficult than it was two years ago. I’m attending a meeting this afternoon, the gist of which I already know. 1,700 exempt and non-exempt employees will be required to take 5 weeks of furlough between April 1st and September 30th, effectively a 10 percent pay cut on the year (more than triple the pay raise I just got). Our bargaining unit contract doesn’t have a provision for furloughs, so 200 of them will be laid off. Who do I blame? In short, Congress. They have become the most dysfunctional organization that I’m aware of. I think putting this sequester scenario into play was a good idea at the time, and the very best opportunity to avoid it came shortly thereafter, when a super committee was formed to find some compromise that would be palatable. But instead of sending big thinking, “good of the country” type leaders to this committee, both parties sent their least compromising hardliners, effectively dooming the entire process. Since then, there’s been a year to compromise and find common ground, but they haven’t even really tried. Why should they? They’re insulated by the Constitution, and both parties think they can blame the other side. What does it come down to? A blind cut, almost entirely borne by middle class Americans, while the Republicans wail that defense funding should be maintained and the poor should be further marginalized by cuts to welfare programs, and the Democrats cry for protection of labor unions and further sacrifice by the upper crust. I have to admit, I side with the latter on this one even though I’m not in any of their target demographics. Our wealth has become so poorly distributed that the wealthy couple percent can simply buy themselves policies that contribute to their continued success. I watched this last night, and found it simply affirmed my suspicions. The fix? First, the sequester and federal spending fiasco. Let’s work on depolarizing our political arena a bit and elect leaders who understand that compromise and working for the best of the country is more important than partisan wins. The second? A dramatic reduction in tax exemptions, especially those that favor particular industries or corporations. As for the wealth disparity? I don’t know enough about it to provide clear cut goals, but maybe private initiatives to encourage shared prosperity in successful companies would help. There could be a small public component to this, maybe start by requiring that publicly held companies provide an annual update on the compensation of their top 10% as a ratio to their median employee, thus the privately funded campaign could advertise “The top 10% of Corporation X employees make 300 times the median of their employees. Their competitor, Corporation Y, only pays their most valuable top staffers 100 times their median. Companies who support American prosperity should do business with Corporation Y.” Just a thought. I’m sure there are better ideas out there. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #152 March 5, 2013 QuoteIt would appear the email you got was a scare tactic It also appears you job is safe QuoteFeds keep hiring with sequesters in place: 400 jobs posted on first day back Funny, my neighbor (a US Marshal) loses 1 day of work a week from his paycheck starting next month because of this. He doesn't seem to think it's 'scare tactics' IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #153 March 5, 2013 QuoteQuoteIt would appear the email you got was a scare tactic It also appears you job is safe QuoteFeds keep hiring with sequesters in place: 400 jobs posted on first day back Funny, my neighbor (a US Marshal) loses 1 day of work a week from his paycheck starting next month because of this. He doesn't seem to think it's 'scare tactics' Ian This whole thing does not make sense The sequester is nothing more than a political game he got caught up in The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some So, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #154 March 5, 2013 QuoteIf we keep going the way we are - continuous tax increases to support a growing administration - then fathers and workers and helpers and all sorts of others in the private industry will be in the exact same place. How many times have your federal taxes been increased in the last 15 years? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ianmdrennan 2 #155 March 5, 2013 QuoteSo, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I honestly don't know. I just know he's pissed. Maybe it's specific departments?Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #156 March 5, 2013 >The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some Right. Which means that as inflation increases, the actual money they have goes down. >And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I would guess so they can dump the higher-paid employees and get minimum wage drones to take their place. Cheaper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #157 March 5, 2013 QuoteQuoteSo, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I honestly don't know. I just know he's pissed. Maybe it's specific departments? He should be I know that there is some discresion as to where the increase reductions happen It seems everytime there is a time when money may be reduced to the gov it is teacher, police and firefighters they say will get hurt first"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #158 March 5, 2013 Quote>The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some Right. Which means that as inflation increases, the actual money they have goes down. >And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I would guess so they can dump the higher-paid employees and get minimum wage drones to take their place. Cheaper. No they still have more money than last year. It is built into the process they have where they make sure there is an increase evey year This is political And it is bullshit"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 801 #159 March 5, 2013 Maybe they could just sub out the entire congress to India. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #160 March 5, 2013 Quote I watched THIS last night, and found it simply affirmed my suspicions. I suspect your link got lost in your long post so I'm bumping it. ALL should read it. Especially those who mistakenly think the super wealthy are being hit hard.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 801 #161 March 5, 2013 Interesting. What some people see as wealth distribution, others see as wealth earned. OK, cherry picking time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #162 March 5, 2013 What do you think? QuoteEmail tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/ QuoteMore sequester pain: White House cancels tours http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/5/more-sequester-pain-white-house-cancels-tours/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #163 March 5, 2013 >they still have more money than last year. Nope. While some programs (social security) did indeed continue to see increases, many parts of government will see none and some (like defense) will actually see cuts - as in "you can't have as much money this year as you had last year." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #164 March 5, 2013 QuoteInteresting. What some people see as wealth distribution, others see as wealth earned. OK, cherry picking time. Why don't you tell us how those execs at AIG who brought their company to its knees, and the US economy along with it, "earned" their big fat bonuses. And when you've done that, tell us how the execs at the other financial industry beneficiaries of the taxpayer bailouts "earned" their bonuses too, rather than jail time.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #165 March 5, 2013 No You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #166 March 5, 2013 >Why don't you tell us how those execs at AIG who brought their company to its >knees, and the US economy along with it, "earned" their big fat bonuses. Same way the professors who educated some of the idiots we see in the world today "earned' their pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #167 March 5, 2013 >You are wrong You keep saying this; I don't believe you. Let's see the numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #168 March 5, 2013 http://www.humanevents.com/2013/03/05/stossel-the-sequester-is-not-even-a-cut/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #169 March 5, 2013 QuoteNo You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #170 March 6, 2013 QuoteQuoteNo You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave Unfortunately for you, I am not"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #171 March 6, 2013 The graph shows a decrease over the next three years. Looks like your own data proves you wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #172 March 6, 2013 I wish I could use this budgeting process http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseline_%28budgeting%29 And no, I dont like wike But it works for this And no, the increases continue. Just at a slower rate"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #173 March 6, 2013 QuoteQuote No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave Unfortunately for you, I am not I'm in a rather better position to assess the situation than you and your entertainment / opinion sources. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #174 March 6, 2013 >And no, the increases continue. Just at a slower rate Dude YOUR OWN LINK shows spending going down. And that's from a conservative website. 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rushmc 23 #153 March 5, 2013 QuoteQuoteIt would appear the email you got was a scare tactic It also appears you job is safe QuoteFeds keep hiring with sequesters in place: 400 jobs posted on first day back Funny, my neighbor (a US Marshal) loses 1 day of work a week from his paycheck starting next month because of this. He doesn't seem to think it's 'scare tactics' Ian This whole thing does not make sense The sequester is nothing more than a political game he got caught up in The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some So, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #154 March 5, 2013 QuoteIf we keep going the way we are - continuous tax increases to support a growing administration - then fathers and workers and helpers and all sorts of others in the private industry will be in the exact same place. How many times have your federal taxes been increased in the last 15 years? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ianmdrennan 2 #155 March 5, 2013 QuoteSo, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I honestly don't know. I just know he's pissed. Maybe it's specific departments?Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #156 March 5, 2013 >The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some Right. Which means that as inflation increases, the actual money they have goes down. >And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I would guess so they can dump the higher-paid employees and get minimum wage drones to take their place. Cheaper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #157 March 5, 2013 QuoteQuoteSo, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I honestly don't know. I just know he's pissed. Maybe it's specific departments? He should be I know that there is some discresion as to where the increase reductions happen It seems everytime there is a time when money may be reduced to the gov it is teacher, police and firefighters they say will get hurt first"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #158 March 5, 2013 Quote>The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some Right. Which means that as inflation increases, the actual money they have goes down. >And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I would guess so they can dump the higher-paid employees and get minimum wage drones to take their place. Cheaper. No they still have more money than last year. It is built into the process they have where they make sure there is an increase evey year This is political And it is bullshit"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 801 #159 March 5, 2013 Maybe they could just sub out the entire congress to India. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #160 March 5, 2013 Quote I watched THIS last night, and found it simply affirmed my suspicions. I suspect your link got lost in your long post so I'm bumping it. ALL should read it. Especially those who mistakenly think the super wealthy are being hit hard.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 801 #161 March 5, 2013 Interesting. What some people see as wealth distribution, others see as wealth earned. OK, cherry picking time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #162 March 5, 2013 What do you think? QuoteEmail tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/ QuoteMore sequester pain: White House cancels tours http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/5/more-sequester-pain-white-house-cancels-tours/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #163 March 5, 2013 >they still have more money than last year. Nope. While some programs (social security) did indeed continue to see increases, many parts of government will see none and some (like defense) will actually see cuts - as in "you can't have as much money this year as you had last year." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #164 March 5, 2013 QuoteInteresting. What some people see as wealth distribution, others see as wealth earned. OK, cherry picking time. Why don't you tell us how those execs at AIG who brought their company to its knees, and the US economy along with it, "earned" their big fat bonuses. And when you've done that, tell us how the execs at the other financial industry beneficiaries of the taxpayer bailouts "earned" their bonuses too, rather than jail time.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #165 March 5, 2013 No You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #166 March 5, 2013 >Why don't you tell us how those execs at AIG who brought their company to its >knees, and the US economy along with it, "earned" their big fat bonuses. Same way the professors who educated some of the idiots we see in the world today "earned' their pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #167 March 5, 2013 >You are wrong You keep saying this; I don't believe you. Let's see the numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #168 March 5, 2013 http://www.humanevents.com/2013/03/05/stossel-the-sequester-is-not-even-a-cut/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #169 March 5, 2013 QuoteNo You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #170 March 6, 2013 QuoteQuoteNo You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave Unfortunately for you, I am not"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #171 March 6, 2013 The graph shows a decrease over the next three years. Looks like your own data proves you wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #172 March 6, 2013 I wish I could use this budgeting process http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseline_%28budgeting%29 And no, I dont like wike But it works for this And no, the increases continue. Just at a slower rate"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #173 March 6, 2013 QuoteQuote No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave Unfortunately for you, I am not I'm in a rather better position to assess the situation than you and your entertainment / opinion sources. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #174 March 6, 2013 >And no, the increases continue. Just at a slower rate Dude YOUR OWN LINK shows spending going down. And that's from a conservative website. Were you hoping no one would check? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites oldwomanc6 52 #175 March 6, 2013 I wonder if they call(shut down) the federal govt. tomorrow (due to weather) in the DC area; if that day (for those affected) can be used as one of their forced days w/o pay?lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 7 of 8 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
livendive 8 #154 March 5, 2013 QuoteIf we keep going the way we are - continuous tax increases to support a growing administration - then fathers and workers and helpers and all sorts of others in the private industry will be in the exact same place. How many times have your federal taxes been increased in the last 15 years? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #155 March 5, 2013 QuoteSo, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I honestly don't know. I just know he's pissed. Maybe it's specific departments?Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #156 March 5, 2013 >The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some Right. Which means that as inflation increases, the actual money they have goes down. >And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I would guess so they can dump the higher-paid employees and get minimum wage drones to take their place. Cheaper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #157 March 5, 2013 QuoteQuoteSo, is what is happening to you neighbor real? Or a political tactic? And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I honestly don't know. I just know he's pissed. Maybe it's specific departments? He should be I know that there is some discresion as to where the increase reductions happen It seems everytime there is a time when money may be reduced to the gov it is teacher, police and firefighters they say will get hurt first"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #158 March 5, 2013 Quote>The budgets were not cut Only the scheduled increase were cut some Right. Which means that as inflation increases, the actual money they have goes down. >And if they have to cut his hours, why are they posting 400 jobs? I would guess so they can dump the higher-paid employees and get minimum wage drones to take their place. Cheaper. No they still have more money than last year. It is built into the process they have where they make sure there is an increase evey year This is political And it is bullshit"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #159 March 5, 2013 Maybe they could just sub out the entire congress to India. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #160 March 5, 2013 Quote I watched THIS last night, and found it simply affirmed my suspicions. I suspect your link got lost in your long post so I'm bumping it. ALL should read it. Especially those who mistakenly think the super wealthy are being hit hard.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #161 March 5, 2013 Interesting. What some people see as wealth distribution, others see as wealth earned. OK, cherry picking time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #162 March 5, 2013 What do you think? QuoteEmail tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/ QuoteMore sequester pain: White House cancels tours http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/5/more-sequester-pain-white-house-cancels-tours/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #163 March 5, 2013 >they still have more money than last year. Nope. While some programs (social security) did indeed continue to see increases, many parts of government will see none and some (like defense) will actually see cuts - as in "you can't have as much money this year as you had last year." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #164 March 5, 2013 QuoteInteresting. What some people see as wealth distribution, others see as wealth earned. OK, cherry picking time. Why don't you tell us how those execs at AIG who brought their company to its knees, and the US economy along with it, "earned" their big fat bonuses. And when you've done that, tell us how the execs at the other financial industry beneficiaries of the taxpayer bailouts "earned" their bonuses too, rather than jail time.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #165 March 5, 2013 No You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #166 March 5, 2013 >Why don't you tell us how those execs at AIG who brought their company to its >knees, and the US economy along with it, "earned" their big fat bonuses. Same way the professors who educated some of the idiots we see in the world today "earned' their pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #167 March 5, 2013 >You are wrong You keep saying this; I don't believe you. Let's see the numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #168 March 5, 2013 http://www.humanevents.com/2013/03/05/stossel-the-sequester-is-not-even-a-cut/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #169 March 5, 2013 QuoteNo You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #170 March 6, 2013 QuoteQuoteNo You are wrong The cuts were to the increases They still have at least the same dollars as last year Most likely more No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave Unfortunately for you, I am not"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #171 March 6, 2013 The graph shows a decrease over the next three years. Looks like your own data proves you wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #172 March 6, 2013 I wish I could use this budgeting process http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseline_%28budgeting%29 And no, I dont like wike But it works for this And no, the increases continue. Just at a slower rate"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #173 March 6, 2013 QuoteQuote No. You are wrong. Blues, Dave Unfortunately for you, I am not I'm in a rather better position to assess the situation than you and your entertainment / opinion sources. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #174 March 6, 2013 >And no, the increases continue. Just at a slower rate Dude YOUR OWN LINK shows spending going down. And that's from a conservative website. Were you hoping no one would check? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #175 March 6, 2013 I wonder if they call(shut down) the federal govt. tomorrow (due to weather) in the DC area; if that day (for those affected) can be used as one of their forced days w/o pay?lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
