What the fuck is wrong with america?

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I was watching Band of Brothers this past weekend. In the beginning there was a gentleman that had served in the war and he was explaining that there were a few men who couldnt serve their country...and several of them killed themselves...because they COULDNT serve. Now we've got people expecting entitlements that have probably never worked a day in their lives. I know right now its the worst this country has ever been in that regard, but its morphed into this over the past few generations. What has caused this country to be fractured into factions of people who simply dont give a shit about anyone but themselves? I am sure there were people like this during the 50's and 60's..but were probably a handful. Now it seems like everyone wants to knock down the successful (rich) people, and accept apathy as their career. I'd like to hear your thoughts.

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The good of the many outweighs the good of the few...or the one. We've got this all backwards now. I blame liberals and their victim status politics during the last 50 years of the 20th century.

Please don't dent the planet.

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> What the fuck is wrong with america?

Same thing that's always been wrong with it - it's made up of imperfect people.

BTW every generation says what you are saying - things were so much better when I was a kid or when my parents were kids, people today don't appreciate what they have, people today are lazy/greedy/shiftless etc. We seem to do OK. Most of what's changing are people's perceptions, not reality; overall MORE people are employed, as a percentage of our population. today than there were 50 years ago. So there are fewer of the "moochers" out there.

And it goes on forever. Your grandkids will talk about the 2010's as the glory days and complain about _their_ contemporaries.

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BTW every generation says what you are saying - things were so much better when I was a kid or when my parents were kids, people today don't appreciate what they have, people today are lazy/greedy/shiftless etc.

“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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BTW every generation says what you are saying - things were so much better when I was a kid or when my parents were kids, people today don't appreciate what they have, people today are lazy/greedy/shiftless etc.

“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

There have always been elements of that. It ebbs and flows from generation to generation, and it certainly seems as if we are currently at a high spot with regards to our children and their behaviors and expectations of what is rightfully theirs.

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There have always been elements of that. It ebbs and flows from generation to generation, and it certainly seems as if we are currently at a high spot with regards to our children and their behaviors and expectations of what is rightfully theirs.

Did you look up who said that?

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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There have always been elements of that. It ebbs and flows from generation to generation, and it certainly seems as if we are currently at a high spot with regards to our children and their behaviors and expectations of what is rightfully theirs.

Did you look up who said that?

Yep. Your quote was familiar, but I couldn't place where I knew it from.

After all, college was a long time ago.

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Your logic is flawed. The only reason there are more people employed now than in the past is because there are simply MORE PEOPLE.

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Did you look up who said that?

Apparently Socrates.

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> The only reason there are more people employed now than in the past is
>because there are simply MORE PEOPLE.

No, as a percentage. In 1950 about 48% of the TOTAL population (men, women, children, the elderly) was employed. It hit 55% in 2008, then dropped to about 52% as a result of the recession. It is now climbing again.

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I'm not trying to knock what you said but I wonder if the statistics you revealed were for ALL people...or for people of working age...as in people who are still able to do work...or if those numbers were for all citizens including the elderly, children, the disabled...etc. Just wondering.

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Speaking of kids, there just wasn't enough of the right kind of kids being born. Look, wanting a down syndrome baby was a recent phenomenon. Also, inclusion of handicap into main stream classrooms have watered down the populace. Immigration and welfare/ crack babies haven't helped. Society is nothing like it was. Just listen to rap. Find all your answers there, as it's the poetry of the people.

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>I'm not trying to knock what you said but I wonder if the statistics you revealed were
>for ALL people...or for people of working age...as in people who are still able to do
>work...or if those numbers were for all citizens including the elderly, children, the
>disabled...etc. Just wondering.

All people, which is why it seems so low. It includes 8 year olds and retirees. One of the reasons it's rising is that more women are working than ever before.

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BTW every generation says what you are saying - things were so much better when I was a kid or when my parents were kids, people today don't appreciate what they have, people today are lazy/greedy/shiftless etc.

“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

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I agree completely with what you are saying. My neice just turned 22. She has never had a job in her life and she married a man in the army...probably to get pregnant and so she could use that as a reason NOT to work. This is my neice. I know her tendencies. I also have seen so many times in the past when she would call her mom a bitch and I would get yelled at for wanting to smack the shit out of her because she has little respect for her mother. If that was my parents I would have received a hand to the face more than once...and did. Now we have to coddle these little fuckers because spanking kids in public will get CPS up your ass in a heartbeat.

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Speaking of kids, there just wasn't enough of the right kind of kids being born. Look, wanting a down syndrome baby was a recent phenomenon. Also, inclusion of handicap into main stream classrooms have watered down the populace. Immigration and welfare/ crack babies haven't helped. Society is nothing like it was. Just listen to rap. Find all your answers there, as it's the poetry of the people.

Careful, don't you want to make sure the veil on your thinly-veiled racism stays in place? Or you just wanna come out and say that it's the retards and the coloreds that are causing all the problems?

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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BTW every generation says what you are saying - things were so much better when I was a kid or when my parents were kids, people today don't appreciate what they have, people today are lazy/greedy/shiftless etc.

“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

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I agree completely with what you are saying. My neice just turned 22. She has never had a job in her life and she married a man in the army...probably to get pregnant and so she could use that as a reason NOT to work. This is my neice. I know her tendencies. I also have seen so many times in the past when she would call her mom a bitch and I would get yelled at for wanting to smack the shit out of her because she has little respect for her mother. If that was my parents I would have received a hand to the face more than once...and did. Now we have to coddle these little fuckers because spanking kids in public will get CPS up your ass in a heartbeat.

It's not me. It's Socrates. You know, the old dude in the Bill & Ted movie?

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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I also can't help but think that since our forefathers were so damn lazy they had to get slaves to do their work for them...that might factor into the equation as well.

[promise5 17]

It just goes back to the way each person is raised. In my family joining the military is a "given" for every guy. I was raised to say "yes ma'am" and " yes sir" and to say please and thank you. As far as money was concerned. Dang, I've picked rocks, and mucked out stalls, made hay too. Nothing was a "given" at our house. Loved every minute of it!!

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

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The good of the many outweighs the good of the few...or the one. We've got this all backwards now. I blame liberals and their victim status politics during the last 50 years of the 20th century.

Whenever you feel compelled to blame liberals (or if people feel compelled to blame conservatives for things) I invite you to partake in a thought experiment I posed last week that is probably better suited to this thread.

What I'm getting at is that the idea that a party would gain control of a portion of government and take that as a message from the people to implement their entire list of crap they want to implement is something that is wrong with America. But being blind to the underlying reasons about why "your guy" didn't win is why candidates are getting more and more extreme, and why it seems like everyone's entire list of crap is terrible.

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I grew up in a rural area. We were woken at 5 am every day by the sound of a rooster spewing out rooster-nonsense at the asscrack of dawn. As kids we each had our role and we did our part. Now if you asked my neice to do a tiny fraction of what we did back then she'd throw a hissy fit and storm off. A majority of kids these days feel things in life are OWED to them..rather than actually having to earn those same things for themselves.

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I grew up in a rural area. We were woken at 5 am every day by the sound of a rooster spewing out rooster-nonsense at the asscrack of dawn. As kids we each had our role and we did our part. Now if you asked my neice to do a tiny fraction of what we did back then she'd throw a hissy fit and storm off. A majority of kids these days feel things in life are OWED to them..rather than actually having to earn those same things for themselves.

It's all part of the democrats' plans to turn the US into an entitlement state.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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Speaking of kids, there just wasn't enough of the right kind of kids being born. Look, wanting a down syndrome baby was a recent phenomenon. Also, inclusion of handicap into main stream classrooms have watered down the populace. Immigration and welfare/ crack babies haven't helped. Society is nothing like it was. Just listen to rap. Find all your answers there, as it's the poetry of the people.

Careful, don't you want to make sure the veil on your thinly-veiled racism stays in place? Or you just wanna come out and say that it's the retards and the coloreds that are causing all the problems?

Bless you, child.

[promise5 17]

I had to laugh at the stomp off and throw a fit. If any of us had tried that I think the look of shock on my mother's face would have been priceless, but ooohhhh hell after she recovered all hell would have broke loose. But, I will add this. There were times when our dad was suppose to spank us and he would just tell us girls to cry like he did. Poor, dad. He didn't stand a chance against tears and I love you daddy.

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

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It's not me. It's Socrates. You know, the old dude in the Bill & Ted movie?

I was going to guess it was one of the Four Yorkshiremen.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.