Isreal Bombing Syria F/ Lebenon

[rwieder 0]

Israel is bombing the tarnation out of Syria (Which I support) But I'm also concerned about fall out. You know good and well one way of the other, this is going to be our fault. I said in another post, "Syria's problems, are Syria's problems" If they want to screw around with Israel, HMPHH, "What Ye Reap, That Is Also What Ye Shall Sow"

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[jclalor 12]

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Israel is bombing the tarnation out of Syria (Which I support) But I'm also concerned about fall out. You know good and well one way of the other, this is going to be our fault. I said in another post, "Syria's problems, are Syria's problems" If they want to screw around with Israel, HMPHH, "What Ye Reap, That Is Also What Ye Shall Sow"

It sounds as if the Syrian government is trying to transfer weapons to Hezbollah before their forthcoming demise and the IDF is dead set on never letting that happen. Once Damascus falls, Iran will have no direct way to transfer weapons to Lebanon.

The last time Hezbollah and Israel went at it in 2006, the IDF bombed the hell out of the Highway from Damascus to Beirut.

[rickjump1 0]

Those wild and crazy Jews... Israel's Ambassador to the UN once told the Russians to lay off or else. He then reminded them they were fully prepared to fly one way trips to Moscow.
If barrybarack insists on arming al queda backed troops in Syria, we may get to see US tax dollars go up in smoke.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[quade 4]

Somebody point out which side are the "good guys" in this, 'cause I don't see either side wearing white hats.

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[Kennedy 0]

I'm more interested in which country is less of a bad guy, less likely to attack US personnel and property, more in line with US interests, and less likely to use NBC weapons. Using that very US centric POV, I think you know how to choose sides if it comes down to only one or the other (in POTUS's shoes, at least).

Each country has to weigh these things for itself.

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[quade 4]

Well, if you're talking strictly Israel v Syria in the conventional sense, then the US backs Israel, however, I'm not convinced Israel even cares which side they're taking in the Syria v Rebel conflict; they're just targeting things that look like generic threats regardless of who is in control. Because of that I think the entire situation is really f'ed up.

My -guess- is The White House is getting a bit of coordination and information from Israel, but hopefully not trusting it and doing their own assessments of who's hitting who.

I seriously doubt you or I cant possibly know the "truth" of what is actually going on as I write this. That said, I tacitly trust our government to not start WWIII.

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[dmcoco84 5]

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Somebody point out which side are the "good guys" in this, 'cause I don't see either side wearing white hats.

You are so full of shit.


Lets see... Assad - AQ - and Israel

AQ Syrian Rebels win; they hate Israel, desire and willing to kill every last Jew.

Assad wins; he hates Israel, desire and willing to kill every last Jew.

Israel... has a right to exist; Kicks Ass Every Time, that they are attacked, threatened, or have to prevent attack.

[dmcoco84 5]

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Well, if you're talking strictly Israel v Syria in the conventional sense, then the US backs Israel, however, I'm not convinced Israel even cares which side they're taking in the Syria v Rebel conflict; they're just targeting things that look like generic threats regardless of who is in control. Because of that I think the entire situation is really f'ed up.

My -guess- is The White House is getting a bit of coordination and information from Israel, but hopefully not trusting it and doing their own assessments of who's hitting who.

I seriously doubt you or I cant possibly know the "truth" of what is actually going on as I write this. That said, I tacitly trust our government to not start WWIII.

You are in your own little world...


And this specifically, is ridiculous:

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they're just targeting things that look like generic threats regardless of who is in control.

[wmw999 2,447]

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Kicks Ass Every Time, that they are attacked, threatened, or have to prevent attack

And there is a great justification for backing

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

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Kicks Ass Every Time, that they are attacked, threatened, or have to prevent attack

And there is a great justification for backing

Wendy P.

I heard a great interview concerning this on the Bill Bennit show a week or so ago

I dont remember the middle east expert but what he said made sense

In a nut shell, he said that "lines' have been drawn before. In the past the leaders came to understand what crossing that line meant to them in the form of what Isreal does

Todays leaders of those terror groups are new and have never had to deal with the consequenses of crossing that line.

It appears that school is now in session

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[Darius11 12]

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Somebody point out which side are the "good guys" in this, 'cause I don't see either side wearing white hats.

Yea needs to be stated again-READ ABOVE before you get your pom poms out girls. The man "quade" has a good point.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[BillyVance 34]

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Somebody point out which side are the "good guys" in this, 'cause I don't see either side wearing white hats.

Yea needs to be stated again-READ ABOVE before you get your pom poms out girls. The man "quade" has a good point.

What I see is Israel being proactive in its self-preservation. Mossad, the equivalent of our CIA, seems to do a really good job of keeping an eye on what Hezbollah is doing and the shipments going to Lebanon from Damascus. Like somebody else said earlier, they've bombed points in Syria for that reason before.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Darius11 12]

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AQ Syrian Rebels win; they hate Israel, desire and willing to kill every last Jew.

i call bullshit

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Assad wins; he hates Israel, desire and willing to kill every last Jew.

i call bullshit

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Israel... has a right to exist; Kicks Ass Every Time, that they are attacked, threatened, or have to prevent attack.

Yes they have the right to exist and they do kick ass, however the way you justify preemptive attacks i call bull shit. What do they have a crystal ball??


Are blind support of Israeli and their tactics is the very reason why our government and the Israel’s are hated in the middle east , and why as you sated why other countries want them go. It overly simplistic to say they are hated just because they are Jews you are avoiding the many many many reasons that actually exists and that anyone could relate to for obvious reasons

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[Darius11 12]

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Somebody point out which side are the "good guys" in this, 'cause I don't see either side wearing white hats.

Yea needs to be stated again-READ ABOVE before you get your pom poms out girls. The man "quade" has a good point.

What I see is Israel being proactive in its self-preservation. Mossad, the equivalent of our CIA, seems to do a really good job of keeping an eye on what Hezbollah is doing and the shipments going to Lebanon from Damascus. Like somebody else said earlier, they've bombed points in Syria for that reason before.

I think that’s kind of the problem if you abide to no rule or laws other then I’ll do what I feel I need to do then you really have no moral ground to accuse anyone else of breaking laws.
Very much like the prime minister talking about Iran having nuclear weapons, when they have them and have not signed any treaty. The hypocrisy I believe would and should prevent any rational thinking individual from taking their side.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Andy9o8 2]

You're not speaking rationally. Frankly, you never do, on this issue. Pity, really.

[Darius11 12]

I don’t think it’s irrational to think if there are rules/laws then they should be applied to everyone in the same manner.

If you see anything irrational it should be very easy to point them out and show them as so. If you can apply a standard that you hold all parties too, and somehow end up with Israel having some sort of moral high ground I would love to see it.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[champu 1]

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Somebody point out which side are the "good guys" in this, 'cause I don't see either side wearing white hats.

I think the larger problem is thinking there are only two groups of "guys."

Assad Regime
Local Syrian Rebels
AQ
Iran
Israel
Turkey
Lebanon
Palestinian Authority
Hezbollah
Russia
US

Everyone is trying to accomplish something different. If Israel makes an attack to try and prevent Iran and the Assad Regime from transferring weapons to Hezbollah, I would warn against reading that as "Jews preemptively bomb Muslims"

[ryoder 1,590]

Anyone see this story that the rebels may have used sarin gas?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/05/us-syria-crisis-un-idUSBRE94409Z20130505

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[BillyVance 34]

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I don’t think it’s irrational to think if there are rules/laws then they should be applied to everyone in the same manner.

If you see anything irrational it should be very easy to point them out and show them as so. If you can apply a standard that you hold all parties too, and somehow end up with Israel having some sort of moral high ground I would love to see it.

Unfortunately, Israel sits in the middle of no-man's land surrounded by middle eastern countries with a decided bias against Jews and Christians. If you were an Israeli knowing most of your neighbors are your natural enemies, what would you do? Iran does have a history of funneling arms through Syria to Hezbollah. Is Israel 100% a white hat country? Hardly, but they do what they must to ensure their own safety, and be damned what their neighbors think.

It's also a country where every able-bodied person, male and female, are required to serve in the military for a certain period. They still get rocketed nearly every day.

We know they've bombed a Saddam-era nuke plant under construction as well as a possible nuke site in Syria in the past, and Iran may well be the next possible target, though I'm not sure just how much of the threats coming out of Iran is just bluster or real.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[BillyVance 34]

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Somebody point out which side are the "good guys" in this, 'cause I don't see either side wearing white hats.

I think the larger problem is thinking there are only two groups of "guys."

Assad Regime
Local Syrian Rebels
AQ
Iran
Israel
Turkey
Lebanon
Palestinian Authority
Hezbollah
Russia
US

Everyone is trying to accomplish something different. If Israel makes an attack to try and prevent Iran and the Assad Regime from transferring weapons to Hezbollah, I would warn against reading that as "Jews preemptively bomb Muslims"

You left out Hamas. They are however, more or less an independent militarized political group that acts separately from the Palestinian Authority, IIRC.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[dmcoco84 5]

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Yes they have the right to exist and they do kick ass, however the way you justify preemptive attacks i call bull shit. What do they have a crystal ball??

No, Sir... I take people at their word.

Amazon is a raging Progressive and we agree on very little... but even she and I agree on Israel, and the FACT that all the current rulers in all the countries in the 6 day war, along with Iran, Lebanon, SA, and the majority of the people in every one of those countries... still want Israel wiped from the map.

Just because you don't want to listen, doesn't mean they aren't saying it loud and clear. You are delusional and ignorant if you deny that.

Note: And because of that delusion, we should take away your guns.

[dmcoco84 5]

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What I see is Israel being proactive in its self-preservation.

Exactly.

[dmcoco84 5]

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I don’t think it’s irrational to think if there are rules/laws then they should be applied to everyone in the same manner.

If you see anything irrational it should be very easy to point them out and show them as so. If you can apply a standard that you hold all parties too, and somehow end up with Israel having some sort of moral high ground I would love to see it.

WTF are you talking about...?

Irrational Gibberish...

[dmcoco84 5]

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though I'm not sure just how much of the threats coming out of Iran is just bluster or real.

REAL... however the only reason we (or just Israel alone) have not attacked, is because we keep fucking with them through cyber attacks.

We are already at war.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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ETA: typo

Was it an angry typo?











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