Darius11 12 #26 May 8, 2013 kelpdiver *** Quote those who have no interest in peaceful coexistence. I know what you mean. Anyone who has actual interest in peace would at minimum return the stolen property. First part of finding peace is justice you can’t hold on to illegally occupied land and expect peace. Translation - the Jews need to throw themselves into the sea and surrender the 'stolen' Israel. Then they can have peace...in death. Of course Amazon long ago destroyed this argument, pointing out all the stolen lands of Jews in nations surrounding Israel. LOL yea Maybe in your extremely bias minds. If you think god gave you the land 5000 years ago then I have no argument. I can’t discuss facts with people who believe in myths and only myths that suit their agenda. Your arguments are so weak that even you must have noticed the shifting of views towards Israel...Then again maybe you are unable to even notice that. You do know people lived there before there was any religions right?? Moses did not invent people FYI. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #27 May 8, 2013 kallendThe smart ones tend to be liberal/libertarian .... which is it? - there's not a lot of overlap with today's definitions ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #28 May 8, 2013 Quote I can see once again that this sort of real world discussion is a bit too tall for a physicist like yourself. And Hawking. Yes a PHD and a world renowned PHD just do not have your mental capacity to understand your depth of un-bias knowledge. We might have to move to mars to make room for your EGO.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #29 May 8, 2013 Darius11 Yes a PHD and a world renowned PHD just do not have your mental capacity to understand your depth of un-bias knowledge. We might have to move to mars to make room for your EGO. I do have a pretty big fucking ego, and I'm happy with it. You seem to be making two bad assumptions 1- that intelligence translates to infailability. In fact, we see that this can be quite the opposite. 2- that PhDs translate to intelligence, and the lack thereof indicates a lower intelligence. The funny bit to me is this idea of an 'academic boycott.' Israel is surrounded by the land of the morons, thanks to clergy who have far more power than they ought to...and any academic should be embarrassed to tacitly endorse this over the freedoms in Israel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #30 May 8, 2013 Darius11 If you think god gave you the land 5000 years ago then I have no argument. I can’t discuss facts with people who believe in myths and only myths that suit their agenda. I think the argument is more about the land and assets that were seized from the Jews during pogroms and expulsions in the Arab world in the 20th century. Those people were then forced to move to Israel with nothing in their pockets and were in effect refugees. The argument is not so much about the scattering of Jews from Judea thousands of years ago or a sense of religious entitlement to the land. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #31 May 8, 2013 wmw999And why do plumbers trust medicines that are developed by highly educated scientists? Wendy P. Because their time is far too valuable to waste on biochemical research, pharmaceutical formulation, clinical trials and regulatory approval. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #32 May 8, 2013 wmw999And why do plumbers trust medicines that are developed by highly educated scientists? Wendy P. A higher education does not mean that someone has wisdom. Wisdom is what is needed to deal with social issues, not a PhD in physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #33 May 8, 2013 Gravitymaster***And why do plumbers trust medicines that are developed by highly educated scientists? Wendy P. A higher education does not mean that someone has wisdom. Wisdom is what is needed to deal with social issues, not a PhD in physics. I wonder how Sheldon Cooper feels. That would be at least as important as Hawkings.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #34 May 8, 2013 Andy9o8***And why do plumbers trust medicines that are developed by highly educated scientists? Wendy P. Because their time is far too valuable to waste on biochemical research, pharmaceutical formulation, clinical trials and regulatory approval. Lawyer has a plumbing emergency and calls a plumber. Plumber spends a few hours fixing the problem and hands the lawyer a bill. Lawyer looks at the bill and says, "Holy crapola!! I'm a lawyer and I don't make that kind of money!" Plumber says, "I didn't make that kinda money when I was a lawyer either." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #35 May 8, 2013 Gravitymaster***And why do plumbers trust medicines that are developed by highly educated scientists? Wendy P. A higher education does not mean that someone has wisdom. Wisdom is what is needed to deal with social issues, not a PhD in physics. The wisdom that is taught in 4th grade in the US? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #36 May 8, 2013 rehmwa***The smart ones tend to be liberal/libertarian .... which is it? - there's not a lot of overlap with today's definitions A libertarian is just a liberal who hates poor people.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #37 May 8, 2013 kallend******The smart ones tend to be liberal/libertarian .... which is it? - there's not a lot of overlap with today's definitions A libertarian is just a liberal who hates poor people. Why do you hate poor people?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #38 May 8, 2013 One day you will learn wisdom cannot be taught. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #39 May 8, 2013 I dislike and condemn many of Israeli policies when it comes to the treatment of the Palestinians, but I do not support the academic boycott of Israel for various reasons.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #40 May 8, 2013 Well, that is clearly from a private, very fundamentalist religious school. I'm sure they exist in other countries, too. Not only Christian, but other religions as well. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #41 May 8, 2013 QuoteOne day you will learn wisdom cannot be taughtThen how does it develop, because most 15-year-olds aren't very wise at all. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #42 May 8, 2013 Darius11Simply put he is not an idiot that is why his opinion matters to me. Bullshit on stilts. His opinion matters to you only insofar as you agree with him and you can use his endorsement of a boycott as an appeal to authority... a logical fallacy btw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #43 May 8, 2013 Darius11He is this generations Einstein. Oh, dear, no. While that may be a popularly held belief, it's not true by a long shot.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #44 May 8, 2013 rehmwa ***The smart ones tend to be liberal/libertarian .... which is it? - there's not a lot of overlap with today's definitions No? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #45 May 8, 2013 Gravitymaster ***And why do plumbers trust medicines that are developed by highly educated scientists? Wendy P. A higher education does not mean that someone has wisdom. Wisdom is what is needed to deal with social issues, not a PhD in physics. Then what you want is a wise person with a PhD in sociology. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #46 May 8, 2013 GravitymasterOne day you will learn wisdom cannot be taught. Intelligence cannot be taught. Knowledge can only be taught. Wisdom requires both. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,992 #47 May 8, 2013 >And why do plumbers trust medicines that are developed by highly educated scientists? They don't! They aren't some elitist ivory tower socialist assholes. They use medicine that other plumbers develop using good ol' common sense. (Which is one reason you can never seem to find a plumber when you need one . . .) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #48 May 8, 2013 quade***He is this generations Einstein. Oh, dear, no. While that may be a popularly held belief, it's not true by a long shot. Einstein had much better hair.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #49 May 8, 2013 Stumpy******He is this generations Einstein. Oh, dear, no. While that may be a popularly held belief, it's not true by a long shot. Einstein had much better hair. He also fundamentally changed how we look at the universe. Hawking stands on his shoulders.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #50 May 8, 2013 quade*********He is this generations Einstein. Oh, dear, no. While that may be a popularly held belief, it's not true by a long shot. Einstein had much better hair. He also fundamentally changed how we look at the universe. Hawking stands on his shoulders. Although he did play a poker game with Data...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites