First day deaths

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news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130508-united-states-babies-newborn-mothers-infant-mortality-save-the-children/

The United States has the highest rate of first-day deaths in babies than any other industrialized nation, according to a report released this week by the humanitarian group Save the Children.

Throughout the world, the first day of life is the most hazardous time for a baby; just over one million children die each year within 24 hours of being born.

Each year, nearly 11,300 babies die on the day they were born in the United States, making American babies twice as likely to die in their first 24 hours as European Union babies.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Combine these statistics with someone like Kermit Gosnell and the odds are definately stacked against very young infants.

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they're stacked against babies when women are led to believe doctors should be in charge of birthing babies for normal pregnancies. when the process is left to qualified midwives, the odds return to the babies' favor.

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sfzombie13

they're stacked against babies when women are led to believe doctors should be in charge of birthing babies for normal pregnancies. when the process is left to qualified midwives, the odds return to the babies' favor.

Funny that I'm typing this just before walking out the door to go spend 12 hours of clinical time at a local Labor/Delivery unit!

For me, it's not Doc vs. Midwife. For me, it's that we have a system that tells women (and men, as their SOs) that ANYONE can have a baby, whenever they want, despite their own conditions. Moms are poppin' 'em out older and older (maternal age, not gestational age), and sicker and sicker (moms and kids alike). Kids we'd never consider even trying to save now get massive resuscitative efforts.

In a lot of other countries, the resources we have aren't available, so the babies in question would have been miscarried at earlier gestation or not conceived at all. But here, in a way, our technology is the curse.

Elvisio "if you drop the baby, pick it up" Rodriguez

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Elvisio "if you drop the baby, fake the seizure" Rodriguez

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Now why did you start an abortion thread?
Oh, wait - you didn't.

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skydiver30960

For me, it's not Doc vs. Midwife. For me, it's that we have a system that tells women (and men, as their SOs) that ANYONE can have a baby, whenever they want, despite their own conditions. Moms are poppin' 'em out older and older (maternal age, not gestational age), and sicker and sicker (moms and kids alike). Kids we'd never consider even trying to save now get massive resuscitative efforts.

In a lot of other countries, the resources we have aren't available, so the babies in question would have been miscarried at earlier gestation or not conceived at all. But here, in a way, our technology is the curse.

Elvisio "if you drop the baby, pick it up" Rodriguez

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Elvisio "if you drop the baby, fake the seizure" Rodriguez

i am truly glad that you feel that way and i will have to agree on the main issue here as you have stated. however, in most places, the thinking is not the same. our culture has eroded to the point that when women think of having a baby, the first thing they think of is a hospital. this is quite wrong and should not be that way. also, in addition to your reasons, i will have to add that designer c-sections should not be the new trend. having said that, i have to disclose that my segment of midwife friends is higher than average, so i have a lot of information that most of america doesn't.

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In a lot of other countries, the resources we have aren't available, so the babies in question would have been miscarried at earlier gestation or not conceived at all. But here, in a way, our technology is the curse.

Have you spent much time in the EU?

You might be surprised to find we're not part of the third world

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

Have you spent much time in the EU?

You might be surprised to find we're not part of the third world

No I haven't, but on the other hand I may not have been referring to the EU. The US isn't the center of the universe, true, but there are a LOT of places not under either of those umbrellas.



Elvisio "anymore, the EU are the civilized ones" rodriguez

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skydiver30960

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Have you spent much time in the EU?

You might be surprised to find we're not part of the third world

No I haven't, but on the other hand I may not have been referring to the EU. The US isn't the center of the universe, true, but there are a LOT of places not under either of those umbrellas.



Elvisio "anymore, the EU are the civilized ones" rodriguez

You may not have but the OP was. Although you were partially right,

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who said in an e-mail interview that the U.S. consistently has a preterm birth rate far above those of other industrialized countries.

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Factors like poverty, stress, and teenage pregnancy also play a role, Miles said.

Babies born to the poorest mothers are 40 percent more likely to die than babies born to wealthy mothers, said Miles.

If you look at the original PDF from the arcticle you'll find the top 10 list:

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1 Finland
2 Sweden
3 Norway
4 Iceland
5 Netherlands
6 Denmark
7 Spain
8 Belgium
9 Germany
10 Australia

Whats the uniting factor with those countries? Socialized medicine ...

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

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Whats the uniting factor with those countries? Socialized medicine ...

Demographics tend greatly toward the white side, too.

Funny enough, you'll see similar metrics if you restricted the US accordingly.