Glass fucking parking lot...all I have to say about it

[catfishhunter 2]

GRAPHIC VIDEO OF ISLAMIC MURDER! WARNING DO NOT WATCH UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE VERY ANGRY AND DISCUSTED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cc-HC1CnJg&sns=tw&bpctr=1368725460

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[Darius11 12]

how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

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[turtlespeed 220]

Darius11

how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[jakee 1,489]

catfishhunter

GRAPHIC VIDEO OF ISLAMIC MURDER! WARNING DO NOT WATCH UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE VERY ANGRY AND DISCUSTED.

Well, then I'm sure that murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people who happen to live in the same area and condemning many more to a life of crippling injury and disease would be an appropriate response and not in any way morally reprehensible and the suggestion of a sick, disturbed mind.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kallend 2,027]

turtlespeed

***how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

I recall quite a lot of video of US warplanes bombing Baghdad.

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[catfishhunter 2]

You know how about we send you, Kallened over there so you can educate those folks with your big brain. I'll even pay for your ticket...

MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT
Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

[Andy9o8 2]

catfishhunter

You know how about we send you, Kallened over there so you can educate those folks with your big brain. I'll even pay for your ticket...

That was both brilliant and mature. You just won the thread.

[airdvr 210]

kallend

******how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

I recall quite a lot of video of US warplanes bombing Baghdad.

Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage? Is their intent to kill civilians? The difference here is intent.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[mistercwood 287]

Just out of curiosity, did any of you actually translate the title to get an idea of who the players were? Or did you just hear "Allahu akbar" and assume they'd just rounded up randoms off the street?

ETA: That was rhetorical, of course. This was an execution, not murder. Their appeals process is just clearly a lot shorter than yours.

You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

[billvon 2,991]

>Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage?

It used to. But perhaps you have heard of a strategy called "shock and awe."

[champu 1]

billvon

>Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage?

It used to. But perhaps you have heard of a strategy called "shock and awe."

I think you're misrepresenting the shock and awe doctrine as it doesn't include "disregard for collateral damage" as one of its elements.

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turtlespeed

***how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

Does the name Anders Behring Breivik ring a bell, or were his terrorist acts less tragic, since he didn't take video?

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[Andy9o8 2]

champu

***>Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage?

It used to. But perhaps you have heard of a strategy called "shock and awe."

I think you're misrepresenting the shock and awe doctrine as it doesn't include "disregard for collateral damage" as one of its elements.

Here's one source reporting the number of Iraqi civilians killed by Coalition (mainly US & UK) forces in the first 5 years since the 2003 invasion:

http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/15/us-coalition-directly-killed-over-11000-civilians-in-iraq-in-five-years/

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US, Coalition Directly Killed Over 11,000 Civilians in Iraq in Five Years

[airdvr 210]

Andy9o8

******>Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage?

It used to. But perhaps you have heard of a strategy called "shock and awe."

I think you're misrepresenting the shock and awe doctrine as it doesn't include "disregard for collateral damage" as one of its elements.

Here's one source reporting the number of Iraqi civilians killed by Coalition (mainly US & UK) forces in the first 5 years since the 2003 invasion:

http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/15/us-coalition-directly-killed-over-11000-civilians-in-iraq-in-five-years/

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US, Coalition Directly Killed Over 11,000 Civilians in Iraq in Five Years

As I remember it gets a bit difficult to tell the combatants from the civilians over there.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

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kallend

******how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

I recall quite a lot of video of US warplanes bombing Baghdad.

Did you ever watch the Daniel Berg decapitation video? I did. I never want to see one like that again. I was so glad when Al Zarqawi was killed in the airstrike. Fucking piece of shit motherfucker.

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[Andy9o8 2]

airdvr

*********>Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage?

It used to. But perhaps you have heard of a strategy called "shock and awe."

I think you're misrepresenting the shock and awe doctrine as it doesn't include "disregard for collateral damage" as one of its elements.

Here's one source reporting the number of Iraqi civilians killed by Coalition (mainly US & UK) forces in the first 5 years since the 2003 invasion:

http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/15/us-coalition-directly-killed-over-11000-civilians-in-iraq-in-five-years/

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US, Coalition Directly Killed Over 11,000 Civilians in Iraq in Five Years

As I remember it gets a bit difficult to tell the combatants from the civilians over there.

How very convenient. So with a single swipe of the hand, you just dismiss it. Much like the other guy's swipe of the hand ignoring the original source, which is a research study conducted by King's College in the UK.

Fortunately, I'm old enough to recognize the old, habitual Vietnam-era talking points, which have been recycled by the next generation for use re: Iraq & Afghanistan. (Things like "America, love it or leave it" to stifle dissent.) In your case, the recycled slogan would be "You can't tell them apart; they're all Vietcong."

There were over 116,000 Iraqi civilian deaths in a 10-year span since the US/UK "coalition" invaded in 2003. (Google it; it's there.) Why don't you use your keen research & analysis skills to break them down for us.

[Darius11 12]

airdvr

*********how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

I recall quite a lot of video of US warplanes bombing Baghdad.

Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage? Is their intent to kill civilians? The difference here is intent.

There will always be “collateral damage” collateral damage = killing innocent people, civilians.
So when we decide to start a war we know we will kill innocent people. So it’s not as if we are surprised that people die we know it will happen.

Now compound that with the whole FACT that the war was started for no actual reason then you tell me how that’s different.
Please keep in mind. Not everyone who takes up arms against our invading army is an insurgent or a terrorist. Some as you or I would don’t want some fucker from another land to come to their home and kick the door in.
Also let’s not forget there are plenty of videos showing our solders intent, and the ones who expose these war crimes well some are still in solitary confinement after 3 years.
As for religion: I am not sure if you are aware or not but Christianity plays a huge role in our military.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Gravitymaster 0]

That number pales in comparison to the tens of millions of children who have been murdered by pro-abortionists and the number of people murdered by Gangsta's who got off due to a gray ponytail lawyer.

[turtlespeed 220]

kallend

******how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder?

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

I recall quite a lot of video of US warplanes bombing Baghdad.

and of course the reverent call of "In the name of Jesus" as the murderer of hundreds of thousands of his own people was relieved of his power, right.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[airdvr 210]

The left is ecstatic in the decline of Christianity. I wonder how they feel about the increase in Muslims. In my book they're all just crazy people talking to their pretend friend in the sky.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[rehmwa 2]

kallend

***When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood?

I recall quite a lot of video of US warplanes bombing Baghdad.

that was not rationalized as religion based

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that was not rationalized as religion based

But it was seen (and rationalized by many) as being religion targeted. Look at the title of the thread -- is it hard to imagine why?

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wmw999

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that was not rationalized as religion based

But it was seen (and rationalized by many) as being religion targeted. Look at the title of the thread -- is it hard to imagine why?

I'd say the attackers (9/11 gang) rationalized a religious excuse. The defenders, the US, it was more about defense, and socio-political-diplomatic reasoning, not religious.

If citizens twisted their own religious viewpoints into it (or other citizens twisted their own personal viewpoints - one nutjob example on the other extreme would be something about Bush Jr having daddy issues), it wasn't the stated reason for the response.


I can't take one guy's strutting thread title and extend that to anything real or official. We could take 20 guys and get a different thread title from each on the topic.

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[champu 1]

Andy9o8

******>Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage?

It used to. But perhaps you have heard of a strategy called "shock and awe."

I think you're misrepresenting the shock and awe doctrine as it doesn't include "disregard for collateral damage" as one of its elements.

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US, Coalition Directly Killed Over 11,000 Civilians in Iraq in Five Years

A large number of civilian deaths over a five year period is the result of a protracted occupation, not a shock and awe strategy. That's actually the opposite of shock and awe. Perhaps the problem is that people look at "shock and awe" and read it as "The Iraq War."