jclalor 12 #1 May 22, 2013 One of the worst things I have seen in a while. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/22/18423701-sickening-and-barbaric-man-killed-in-suspected-london-terror-attack?lite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 May 22, 2013 Hey This is NOT a terror attack Just another example of work place violence"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #3 May 22, 2013 i thought guns were banned in london?CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 May 22, 2013 shermanatori thought guns were banned in london? At least I thought the cops did not carry guns"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #5 May 22, 2013 Plenty of cops in the UK carry guns.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #6 May 22, 2013 shermanatori thought guns were banned in london? Incorrect. Did you know there are 2.8 million guns legally owned in the UK.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #7 May 22, 2013 Interesting the way the word 'terror' is being tossed about these days. Sure makes it easier to apply a label and then respond accordingly. Looks like attempted murder to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #8 May 22, 2013 QuoteLooks like attempted murder to me. Attempted murder? Looks like it was murder. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #9 May 22, 2013 Weird - the story I read never mentioned the victim's condition. You're very correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 May 22, 2013 normissWeird - the story I read never mentioned the victim's condition. You're very correct. If he can live without his head, it would be a miricle"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 May 22, 2013 normissWeird - the story I read never mentioned the victim's condition. You're very correct. To get back to the point you were trying to make: QuoteInteresting the way the word 'terror' is being tossed about these days. I would agree that "Terror" is a loose term. But what is terror? Is it not terror when a group of anarchist thugs vandalize a business they dislike and then proceed to burn down a neighboring condo complex all because they hate rich people (or at least hate people who were able to secure a mortgage through a bank to purchase the condos)? Or is terror only allowed to be used when people are killed under certain circumstances? Yes it is a loose term, but I thought terror existed when people were afraid because some sort of violent act was perpetrated against them or their property. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #12 May 22, 2013 rushmc ***Weird - the story I read never mentioned the victim's condition. You're very correct. If he can live without his head, it would be a miricle Sorry but that was a funny remark. Yes the poor sod is dead, bloody terrible.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 May 22, 2013 Skyrad ******Weird - the story I read never mentioned the victim's condition. You're very correct. If he can live without his head, it would be a miricle Sorry but that was a funny remark. Yes the poor sod is dead, bloody terrible. It is terrible I agree"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #14 May 22, 2013 rushmcHey This is NOT a terror attack Just another example of work place violence Stupid and inappropriate comment. Whose workplace is John Wilson St., Woolwich, Marc? Have you ever been there? I have.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #15 May 22, 2013 >Attempted murder? You can't call it 'attempted murder.' If you call it anything other than terrorism you'll be pummelled senseless by the right wingers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 May 22, 2013 billvon>Attempted murder? You can't call it 'attempted murder.' If you call it anything other than terrorism you'll be pummelled senseless by the right wingers. seems like you started this yesterday by insisting on a silly literal meaning for 'workplace violence.' So now I think we expect this to show up in threads for weeks rather than have intelligent conversation on the actual subjects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #17 May 22, 2013 rushmcHey This is NOT a terror attack Just another example of work place violence I would have to disagree. The suspects were praising Allah and telling passerby to "leave our lands"."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #18 May 22, 2013 BillyVance***Hey This is NOT a terror attack Just another example of work place violence I would have to disagree. The suspects were praising Allah and telling passerby to "leave our lands". In London street accents, twats.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #19 May 22, 2013 This is why everyone should have machetes. Nip it in the bud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #20 May 22, 2013 Andy9o8This is why everyone should have machetes. Nip it in the bud. ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #21 May 22, 2013 >seems like you started this yesterday by insisting on a silly literal meaning for >'workplace violence.' I think it's pretty silly to deny that violence in the workplace is not violence in the workplace, and that such language should be banned. Only the politically correct term "terrorism" is allowed, no matter where it occurred. >So now I think we expect this to show up in threads for weeks rather than have >intelligent conversation on the actual subjects. Indeed; it is what many people here specialize in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #22 May 22, 2013 kelpdiver***>Attempted murder? You can't call it 'attempted murder.' If you call it anything other than terrorism you'll be pummelled senseless by the right wingers. seems like you started this yesterday by insisting on a silly literal meaning for 'workplace violence.' So now I think we expect this to show up in threads for weeks rather than have intelligent conversation on the actual subjects. Words have meanings. That's why humans are mostly able to communicate effectively. Fort Hood was indeed the work place of Major Nidal Malik Hasan. Unless they were street cleaners or hookers, I doubt that a Woolwich street was the workplace of the perps, and certainly not the work place of a British Army soldier.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #23 May 22, 2013 kallend Stupid and inappropriate comment. Whose workplace is John Wilson St., Woolwich, Marc? Have you ever been there? I have. Let me help you out here. You see the BHO administration would classify this act as work place violence, as in the Ft Hood terrorist shooting. This is a tongue-in-cheek comment requiring some imagination and/or other capability for abstract thought. Hope this helps. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #24 May 22, 2013 normiss Interesting the way the word 'terror' is being tossed about these days. Sure makes it easier to apply a label and then respond accordingly. Looks like attempted murder to me. Maybe folks would be more comfortable calling these specific terrible attacks "ideological violence". The thing that gets people seems to be the motivation. They attacked a soldier in a public and gruesome manner with the specific intent of forcing change in London. The video shows one of the attackers explaining his (irrational) rationale for the attack. He talks about UK military influence and action in "our lands". Witnesses say they shouted Allahu Ackbar while murdering the victim. Terrorism is inherently ideological violence. I suppose not all ideological violence is terrorism. ETA: video of the killer after murdering victim in the streetwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 May 22, 2013 I'd have to agree with your point. Quote He talks about UK military influence and action in "our lands". He forgot to mention Bosnia and Kosovo where the British Military saved countless Muslim lives though.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites