Is he a whistle blower or traitor?

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Ummm...you asked if I had evidence. I made it clear that said evidence is plentiful. You changed subjects.

Nope, you gave me an example of a general in charge of a missile defence program..

I am talking about the Iraq war, Manning was in Iraq.

Regardless of what dodgy legislation has been passed that makes the invasion somehow legitimate, there was still not declaration of war.

That is unconstitutional

Your style of argument makes me think I've seen you here before, with a different log on name. Could that be possible?

I don't know that I'd call flinging poop like a rhesus monkey a "style", but yes, he does seem familiar. Better grammar though, so I doubt rhys, DD, or the rest of the usual nanothermite crowd.

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[normiss 801]

prolly just John Rich ... or wait... who was the other psycho one....



I love seeing those that don't know what they are talking about throw the word 'constitutional' in a discussion regarding the UCMJ.
THAT'S funny shit.

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normiss

prolly just John Rich ... or wait... who was the other psycho one....



I love seeing those that don't know what they are talking about throw the word 'constitutional' in a discussion regarding the UCMJ.
THAT'S funny shit.

I thought at first it is beowulf but no. Beowulf is smarter than this character.

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Your style of argument makes me think I've seen you here before, with a different log on name. Could that be possible?

Could that be an evidence based argument?

Those seem quite rare around here.

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Congratulations. You're full of shit. What's next? Are you going to tell us that the 16th amendment never really happened an income tax is illegal too?

I am saying there was no declaration of war, that is it.

If you are going to call me full of shit. Then explain.

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ayevee8toryear

I am saying there was no declaration of war, that is it.

If you are going to call me full of shit. Then explain.

You said there was no congressional approval nor declaration of war. The first you now yield as false, and you're just arguing that authorization of force != declaration of war. Which with $4 gets you a latte at Starbucks.

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Congratulations. You're full of shit. What's next? Are you going to tell us that the 16th amendment never really happened an income tax is illegal too?

I am saying there was no declaration of war, that is it.

If you are going to call me full of shit. Then explain.

Is it your contension that every military action and hostility conducted by the US military since 1945 has been unconstitutional?

Should every service member in every service in every war and action since August 1945 have refused orders and broken oaths?

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man...i can see how you can leap to a conclusion that i support the current regime in charge here, or even stretching it that i agree with either recent war. i assure you i do not. i hate what has become of the government, but the more i read about the revolution, the more i find that it really wasn't a lot different. you should look into some of it sometime, interesting stuff. but i digress.

you keep throwing around arguments about the legality of the war and his exposure of illegal things. this is moot. most of it was not illegal, he swore an oath to safeguard it, and there were legal channels available to expose wrongdoing. end of fucking story. he is a traitor and a threat to national security. a spy , if you will, in one sense.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War

This subject is definitely debatable.The constitution has been undermined by questionable legislation and the only arguments for the legality of the Iraq war, are based on these questionable changes to legislation.

If the constitution was upheld as it is supposed to be, there would be no justification for the invasion.

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The legality of the invasion and occupation of Iraq has been widely debated since the United States, United Kingdom, and a coalition of other countries launched the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The then United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said in September 2004 that: "From our point of view and the UN Charter point of view, it [the war] was illegal."[1][2] The Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court reported in February 2006 that he had received 240 communications in connection with the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 which alleged that various war crimes had been committed. The political leaders of the US and UK have argued the war was legal, while many legal experts and other international leaders have argued that it was illegal. US and UK officials have argued that existing UN Security Council resolutions related to the first Persian Gulf War and the subsequent ceasefire (660, 678), and to later inspections of Iraqi weapons programs (1441), had already authorized the invasion.[3] Critics of the invasion have challenged both of these assertions, arguing that an additional Security Council resolution, which the US and UK failed to obtain, would have been necessary to specifically authorize the invasion.[1][4][5]

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I love the whole mindset of "it's ok to commit a felony crime that could put you away for life as long as other criminally minded people support your views"

WTF is wrong with people these days????