robinheid 0 #1 June 5, 2013 Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44SCR-6933 / SCS-3463 / D-5533 / BASE 44 / CCS-37 / 82d Airborne (Ret.) "The beginning of wisdom is to first call things by their right names." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #2 June 5, 2013 robinheid Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44 Nobody who is a moderate swing vote in an election year cares. And they're the ones who will decide the 2014 and 2016 elections. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 June 5, 2013 Channman ***Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44 Nobody who is a moderate swing vote in an election year cares. And they're the ones who will decide the 2014 and 2016 elections.That's a good boy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 June 6, 2013 Andy9o8 ******Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44 Nobody who is a moderate swing vote in an election year cares. And they're the ones who will decide the 2014 and 2016 elections.That's a good boy. You get really fun to read when your chosen one looks stupid or (more to the point) criminal"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #5 June 6, 2013 Haven't you heard? Nobody cares that some white, honky pilots are being harassed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #6 June 10, 2013 rushmc *********Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44 Nobody who is a moderate swing vote in an election year cares. And they're the ones who will decide the 2014 and 2016 elections.That's a good boy. You get really fun to read when your chosen one looks stupid or (more to the point) criminalPATRIOT Act of 2001 is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. Some of us recognized its inevitable consequences. I don't recall that you opposed it then, however.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 June 10, 2013 kallend ************Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44 Nobody who is a moderate swing vote in an election year cares. And they're the ones who will decide the 2014 and 2016 elections.That's a good boy. You get really fun to read when your chosen one looks stupid or (more to the point) criminalPATRIOT Act of 2001 is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. Did you oppose it then? Not really however It is now known that this admin has gone past the level of data mining that the bill laid out This assurtion has been made by the author of the bill In hind sight, I should have known that this power would be abused Had it not been Obama it would have been Romney This is the nature of the beast They cant help themselves"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #8 June 10, 2013 rushmc ***************Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44 Nobody who is a moderate swing vote in an election year cares. And they're the ones who will decide the 2014 and 2016 elections.That's a good boy. You get really fun to read when your chosen one looks stupid or (more to the point) criminalPATRIOT Act of 2001 is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. Did you oppose it then? Not really ... Quite. Yet its consequences were inevitable. Pity you didn't see that when you were defending it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 June 10, 2013 kallend ******************Not exactly the land of the free any more. More details here. 44 Nobody who is a moderate swing vote in an election year cares. And they're the ones who will decide the 2014 and 2016 elections.That's a good boy. You get really fun to read when your chosen one looks stupid or (more to the point) criminalPATRIOT Act of 2001 is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. Did you oppose it then? Not really ... Quite. Yet its consequences were inevitable. Pity you didn't see that when you were defending it. Nice cut n paste I guess honesty is not as important to some people"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 June 10, 2013 I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #11 June 10, 2013 Gravitymaster I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornOn 10 December 1868, the first traffic lights were installed outside the British Houses of Parliament in London, to control the traffic in Bridge Street, Great George Street and Parliament Street. They were promoted by the railway engineer J. P. Knight and constructed by the railway signal engineers of Saxby & Farmer. The design combined three semaphore arms with red and green gas lamps for night-time use, on a pillar, operated by a police constable. The gas lantern was turned with a lever at its base so that the appropriate light faced traffic. Although it was said to be successful at controlling traffic, its operational life was brief. It exploded on 2 January 1869, as a result of a leak in one of the gas lines underneath the pavement, injuring or killing the policeman who was operating it. With doubts about its safety, the concept was abandoned until electric signals became available. The first electric traffic light was developed in 1912 by Lester Wire, an American policeman of Salt Lake City, Utah, who also used red-green lights. On 5 August 1914, the American Traffic Signal Company installed a traffic signal system on the corner of East 105th Street and Euclid Avenue in Cleveland, Ohio. It had two colors, red and green, and a buzzer, based on the design of James Hoge, to provide a warning for color changes. The design by James Hoge allowed police and fire stations to control the signals in case of emergency. The first four-way, three-color traffic light was created by police officer William Potts in Detroit, Michigan in 1920. In 1922, T.E. Hayes patented his "Combination traffic guide and traffic regulating signal" (Patent # 1447659). Ashville, Ohio claims to be the location of the oldest working traffic light in the United States, used at an intersection of public roads until 1982 when it was moved to a local museum. YOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #12 June 10, 2013 Why don't you provide a link to a post you made pre-Obama in which you came out against the "Patriot" Act.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 June 10, 2013 kallend ***I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornYOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act. Interesting to see that BDS is alive and well and that you continue to support an administration that has put the Patriot Act on steroids. You did support the "Current Administration" didn't you? Or should I say "do currently support". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #14 June 10, 2013 Gravitymaster ******I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornYOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act. Interesting to see that BDS is alive and well and that you continue to support an administration that has put the Patriot Act on steroids. You did support the "Current Administration" didn't you? Or should I say "do currently support". Mostly I just oppose the GOP agenda. Why don't YOU provide us a link to a post in which YOU went on record opposed to the Patriot Act.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #15 June 10, 2013 kallend *********I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornYOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act. Interesting to see that BDS is alive and well and that you continue to support an administration that has put the Patriot Act on steroids. You did support the "Current Administration" didn't you? Or should I say "do currently support". Mostly I just oppose the GOP agenda. Why don't YOU provide us a link to a post in which YOU went on record opposed to the Patriot Act. It's irrelevant. You are supporting an admin that has taken the Constitution and used it for toilet paper. I "hope" you are proud of the "change" that you currently support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 June 10, 2013 kallend Why don't you provide a link to a post you made pre-Obama in which you came out against the "Patriot" Act. As I already honestly stated, I did support most of the Patriot Act back then. As for pre-Obama? Your agrenda driven idealism is funny at best Fact is Obama has extended what is happening beyond the scope of the bill As I already stated it most likely was inevitable that this happened regardless of who is president Funny Now you are opposed to someone's opions or thoughts on something "evolving" Well, not really funny"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #17 June 10, 2013 Gravitymaster ************I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornYOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act. Interesting to see that BDS is alive and well and that you continue to support an administration that has put the Patriot Act on steroids. You did support the "Current Administration" didn't you? Or should I say "do currently support". Mostly I just oppose the GOP agenda. Why don't YOU provide us a link to a post in which YOU went on record opposed to the Patriot Act. It's irrelevant. You are supporting an admin that has taken the Constitution and used it for toilet paper. I "hope" you are proud of the "change" that you currently support. Translation - GM is NOT on record, pre Obama, as opposing the Patriot Act. Your faux outrage impresses not at all.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #18 June 10, 2013 rushmc *** Why don't you provide a link to a post you made pre-Obama in which you came out against the "Patriot" Act. As I already honestly stated, I did support most of the Patriot Act back then. Well, when you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind (Hosea 8:7) You have no right to complain.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 June 10, 2013 kallend ***************I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornYOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act. Interesting to see that BDS is alive and well and that you continue to support an administration that has put the Patriot Act on steroids. You did support the "Current Administration" didn't you? Or should I say "do currently support". Mostly I just oppose the GOP agenda. Why don't YOU provide us a link to a post in which YOU went on record opposed to the Patriot Act. It's irrelevant. You are supporting an admin that has taken the Constitution and used it for toilet paper. I "hope" you are proud of the "change" that you currently support. Translation - GM is NOT on record, pre Obama, as opposing the Patriot Act. Your faux outrage impresses not at all. Translation-Kallend supports an Admin that uses the Constitution as toilet paper. Your faux attempts to blame Me and Bush do not impress at all. In fact, it's rather pathetic IMO. Want to discuss Able Danger? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 June 10, 2013 kallend ****** Why don't you provide a link to a post you made pre-Obama in which you came out against the "Patriot" Act. As I already honestly stated, I did support most of the Patriot Act back then. Well, when you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind (Hosea 8:7) You have no right to complain. You think I will have to allow you to tell me what I have a right too???? WTF are you smoking??Next Do you think I care what you think?Delusional at bestWhew dude You must really think yourself important or something "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #21 June 10, 2013 Gravitymaster ******************I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornYOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act. Interesting to see that BDS is alive and well and that you continue to support an administration that has put the Patriot Act on steroids. You did support the "Current Administration" didn't you? Or should I say "do currently support". Mostly I just oppose the GOP agenda. Why don't YOU provide us a link to a post in which YOU went on record opposed to the Patriot Act. It's irrelevant. You are supporting an admin that has taken the Constitution and used it for toilet paper. I "hope" you are proud of the "change" that you currently support. Translation - GM is NOT on record, pre Obama, as opposing the Patriot Act. Your faux outrage impresses not at all. Translation-Kallend supports an Admin that uses the Constitution as toilet paper. Your faux attempts to blame Me and Bush do not impress at all. In fact, it's rather pathetic IMO. Want to discuss Able Danger? Nice attempt at deflection. I am on record in opposition to the Patriot Act in all its forms - unlike you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 June 10, 2013 It's like blaming the previous owner of your car for a collision you had, even though you pimped the car out and increased the engine to 600hp. This argument is pretty silly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #23 June 10, 2013 rushmc ********* Why don't you provide a link to a post you made pre-Obama in which you came out against the "Patriot" Act. As I already honestly stated, I did support most of the Patriot Act back then. Well, when you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind (Hosea 8:7) You have no right to complain. You think I will have to allow you to tell me what I have a right too???? WTF are you smoking??Next Do you think I care what you think?Delusional at bestWhew dude You must really think yourself important or something Did you write to your Congressperson stating your opposition to the Patriot Act? Thought not. You are reaping the whirlwind. You were warned.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 June 10, 2013 kallend *********************I don't recall you opposing the first traffic light. Now look what's happened. Think of all the gasoline and productivity that's been lost. Why oh, why didn't you see this coming? Maybe because it was decades before I was bornYOU, however, were around in October 2001 when GWB signed the "Patriot" Act. Interesting to see that BDS is alive and well and that you continue to support an administration that has put the Patriot Act on steroids. You did support the "Current Administration" didn't you? Or should I say "do currently support". Mostly I just oppose the GOP agenda. Why don't YOU provide us a link to a post in which YOU went on record opposed to the Patriot Act. It's irrelevant. You are supporting an admin that has taken the Constitution and used it for toilet paper. I "hope" you are proud of the "change" that you currently support. Translation - GM is NOT on record, pre Obama, as opposing the Patriot Act. Your faux outrage impresses not at all. Translation-Kallend supports an Admin that uses the Constitution as toilet paper. Your faux attempts to blame Me and Bush do not impress at all. In fact, it's rather pathetic IMO. Want to discuss Able Danger? Nice attempt at deflection. I am on record in opposition to the Patriot Act in all its forms - unlike you. You support your King, don't you? I haven't heard you speak out against him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 June 10, 2013 Now you are a mind reader But you are right about one thing We are getting what we voted for TODAY You were warned! The most open and honest admin of all time Think history will support this? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites