NSA collecting phone records of millions of Verizon customers daily

[kallend 2,027]

You are wrong. My position on this has not changed one iota since the Patriot Act was passed in 2001.

It is a bad law.

However, you can't brand anyone a criminal for doing what it allows, and only the courts have the authority to declare it unConstitutional, and they haven't done that.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

***I just discovered this link. This is a long thread and it may have been cited previously. If so, my apologies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Core

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Main Core is the code name of a database maintained since the 1980s by the federal government of the United States. Main Core contains personal and financial data of millions of U.S. citizens believed to be threats to national security.[1]

What we have today (saddly) are political critters who think that someone disagreeing with them is a threat to national security

"You're either with us or against us" where have I heard that before?

edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/06/gen.attack.on.terror/

Alternate version:

"Whoever is not with me is against me"; Jesus, as quoted in Mark 9:40

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[lawrocket 3]

[Reply]"You're either with us or against us" where have I heard that before?

http://edition.cnn.com/...en.attack.on.terror/

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kallend

You are wrong. My position on this has not changed one iota since the Patriot Act was passed in 2001.

It is a bad law.

However, you can't brand anyone a criminal for doing what it allows, and only the courts have the authority to declare it unConstitutional, and they haven't done that.

So, what you are saying is that you oppose, and condemn Obama's actions and decisions regarding the Patriot Act.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rehmwa 2]

kallend

However, you can't brand anyone a criminal for doing what it allows, and only the courts have the authority to declare it unConstitutional, and they haven't done that.

you were all over the bankers for doing what the law allowed under your Dem mortgage rule changes....

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[rehmwa 2]

kallend

"You're either with us or against us" where have I heard that before?

edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/06/gen.attack.on.terror/

Alternate version:

"Whoever is not with me is against me"; Jesus, as quoted in Mark 9:40

so if Bush = Jesus
and Jesus = Superman

then Bush = George Reeve? Or is it Christopher Reeves? or one of the other two recent guys?

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[dorbie 0]

kallend

You are wrong. My position on this has not changed one iota since the Patriot Act was passed in 2001.

The sad part is you probably believe what you just wrote.

Those are direct quotes from you on the AT&T NSA data scandal. You attacked Gravitymaster calling him silly in response to him saying it was legal, just as YOU are calling this activity legal now. Your own words are right there. ^^^^^^

[kallend 2,027]

www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/nation/jan-june13/snowden2_06-28.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DaVinci 0]

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So, what you are saying is that you oppose, and condemn Obama's actions and decisions regarding the Patriot Act.

Kallend..... Hello?

Care to answer?

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DaVinci

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So, what you are saying is that you oppose, and condemn Obama's actions and decisions regarding the Patriot Act.

Kallend..... Hello?

Care to answer?

He cannot answer this, it would cause an implosion.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,027]

I oppose the Patriot Act, period.

But don't kid yourself that this is new. Warrantless wiretaps have been going on certainly since 2001, and probably long before 2001.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Kennedy 0]

Utterly certain. Lincoln wiretapped the telegraph service in the mid 1800s.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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[JerryBaumchen 1,363]

Hi John,

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I oppose the Patriot Act, period.

As do I.

JerryBaumchen

[aphid 0]

Buried within this new article was an interesting proposition:

"But privacy advocates also want companies to be upfront about what they charge and alert customers after an investigation has concluded that their communications were monitored."

When VIP's, business leaders or media darlings discover they've been targeted, then the sh*t might actually hit the fan?

The article is about the amount(s) charged by the telecomms to the public purse for surveillance.

source: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/10/government-wiretap_n_3571422.html

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turtlespeed

***

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So, what you are saying is that you oppose, and condemn Obama's actions and decisions regarding the Patriot Act.

Kallend..... Hello?

Care to answer?

He cannot answer this, it would cause an implosion.

He will avoid the question as always.
Admitting to it would cause a paradox.

Kinda like the old Star Trek scene where Spok says, "The following statement is true; The proceeding statement is a lie."

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun