Thoughts on Syria

[tristansdad 0]

Like myself there are many in the skydiving community with military experience. I’m just curious what your thoughts are concerning the administrations planned support of the Syrian rebels with the deployment of “military aid”. It looks like a no win situation because Assad is backed by Hezbollah and the rebels are backed by Al Qaeda both of whom have no love what so ever for America and they have expressed those feelings with extreme violence. With Russia possibly getting involved it looks like history repeating itself yet again.

[jclalor 12]

It's a major mistake, but if it's any consolation the Shia and Sunni hate and kill each other at a rate that's 1000 times higher than they hate and kill us.

We need to sit this one out.

[kallend 2,106]

Maybe if we stopped interfering uninvited in the affairs of other nations we'd end up with fewer enemies.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[airdvr 210]

No problem...it worked out so well in Rwanda.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[wayneflorida 0]

We have fools for leaders.

[kallend 2,106]

airdvr

No problem...it worked out so well in Rwanda.

Who appointed the USA to be Rwanda's policeman?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[lawrocket 3]

A president tells us about weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East and wants to do something.

First time for everything, eh?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[ayevee8toryear 0]

Tell me, what the war on terror is all about again?

And the dipsticks in here think Manning should be hung for aiding the enemy...

This is beyond the joke, and probably based on fictitious lies, again.

Worked out well in Iraq and Afghanistan... didn't it.

How stupid can people actually be...?

[turtlespeed 226]

ayevee8toryear

How stupid can people actually be...?

You are most qualified to show us that.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[ayevee8toryear 0]

explain...

is Al Qaeda not an enemy of the US?

Why would you arm your enemy?

[rickjump1 0]

*** Manning should be hung (after he is shot), but how stupid can people actually be...? I agree with airdvr: "Sometimes as a government we are just goat-fuck stupid."

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[Bertt 0]

I was just reading the President's statement, where the intelligence community assured him that Syria has used chemical weapons, and thinking, "This sure sounds familiar".
my thoughts:
There are about 100 different Syrian rebel groups, most of whom hate the U.S. and Israel.
Syria is right next to Israel.
What could go wrong here?

You don't have to outrun the bear.

[tristansdad 0]

What could go wrong? With the complete lack of strong cohesive leadership in Washington I'm afraid to wonder.

[Channman 2]

Bertt

I was just reading the President's statement, where the intelligence community assured him that Syria has used chemical weapons, and thinking, "This sure sounds familiar".
my thoughts:
There are about 100 different Syrian rebel groups, most of whom hate the U.S. and Israel.
Syria is right next to Israel.
What could go wrong here?

>"about 100 different Syrian rebel groups"

That number is roughly 250, and most are not align in our favor. It is my understanding, many of these groups are fighting each other.

We need to stay out and let this civil war play out. When it's over, and we don't like the winner, we can go in and kick their ass and take all their oil

[turtlespeed 226]

ayevee8toryear

explain...

is Al Qaeda not an enemy of the US?

Why would you arm your enemy?

Whooooooosh.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[turtlespeed 226]

Bertt

I was just reading the President's statement, where the intelligence community assured him that Syria has used chemical weapons, and thinking, "This sure sounds familiar".
my thoughts:
There are about 100 different Syrian rebel groups, most of whom hate the U.S. and Israel.
Syria is right next to Israel.
What could go wrong here?

I LOL'd after hearing that the White House issued a statement that said basically that they were giving syrian rebels weapons, For The First Time.

WHO do they think they are kidding?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[ryoder 1,590]

turtlespeed

I LOL'd after hearing that the White House issued a statement that said basically that they were giving syrian rebels weapons, For The First Time.

WHO do they think they are kidding?

I've already read some time back that the US was covertly *organizing* arms shipments to the rebels, using money from Saudi Arabia and others.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[ryoder 1,590]

ayevee8toryear

explain...

is Al Qaeda not an enemy of the US?

Why would you arm your enemy?

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

So Assad is our enemy;
The rebels are Assad's enemies;
So the rebels are our friends.

And Al Queda is our enemy;
Al Queda is the enemy of Asaad;
So Assad is our friend...

Oh, wait; Now I'm confused...

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[BigMikeH77 0]

Reports made public this week have “confirmed” that the national forces under control of Assad have, in at least one instance, used chemical weapons in an attempt to quell the rebellion.

UN Security Council position is that providing arms to the situation is counterproductive as there is no military solution. Until now, France and Great Britain have been leading the way in military support. Germany is sitting this one out.

Russian President Vladimir Putin met with U.S. President Obama at a recent G-8 summit and discussed the situation briefly. It is believed that Russia is or has been arming Syrian national forces.

The reason McCain opened his mouth is because whenever there’s a little rebellion like this (let alone one right next door to Israel) the Americans have always rushed to arm the rebels and support their “freedom fight”. That’s the problem… It’s a very arrogant idea that everybody wants to be just like America. The rebels don’t want to be like us, they want to be like them and that doesn’t necessarily mean to have the U.S. as their BFF. However, in the minds of the warmongers, by arming the rebels and securing the ousting of Assad’s government, the newly installed “government” will immediately be grateful and an ally of the U.S., thus increasing America’s sphere of influence and securing Israel.

But that’s not how it ever works out. Flood a country with arms, it becomes a war torn humanitarian rights disaster for 15 years, the new “government” becomes flush with corruption, and the people are worse off than they were and despise America even more. But since it’s easier to attack Israel than the U.S., that’s what they’ll do. The other reason

McCain arose from the grave to speak is just to Obama-bash for a while.

The U.S. and her allies need to back off and let this one be. This isn’t about oil or doing the right thing from a humanitarian perspective. This is about Israel.

[turtlespeed 226]

ryoder

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I LOL'd after hearing that the White House issued a statement that said basically that they were giving syrian rebels weapons, For The First Time.

WHO do they think they are kidding?

I've already read some time back that the US was covertly *organizing* arms shipments to the rebels, using money from Saudi Arabia and others.

My Point exactly.

So why specifically put out a statement that uses the words for "The First Time?"

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[CanuckInUSA 0]

It's an extremely bad idea. But here is a fact we will always know to be true. If/when arming Assad's enemies turns out to backfire and bite America where it hurts, you know the consensus mainstream media will give Obama a pass on the file and will do their best to ignore the issue.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[BigMikeH77 0]

CanuckInUSA

It's an extremely bad idea. But here is a fact we will always know to be true. If/when arming Assad's enemies turns out to backfire and bite America where it hurts, you know the consensus mainstream media will give Obama a pass on the file and will do their best to ignore the issue.

Seriously? You're blaming Obama and bitching about something that hasn't even happened yet? Why aren't you directing your frustration where it belongs... Israel.

[airdvr 210]

I'm wondering where the UN is in all of this. They should be the ones stepping up.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[BigMikeH77 0]

Step up and do what?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

airdvr

I'm wondering where the UN is in all of this. They should be the ones stepping up.

Israel is probably in violation of more UN resolutions than any other country. Should somebody do something about that too?