kallend 2,026 #51 June 29, 2013 RonD1120*********eat one bigots Not only DOMA, but Sen. Wendy Davis in Texas filibustered the anti-choice bill to defeat. Great day for freedom! +1 I wonder if any of the prominent fundie nutters on here have retreated to their bunkers yet. I haven't, well, to some extent I have. My wife and I moved to a Christian enclave in the mountains. Over a year ago I stated that the cultural war is being won by the Satanic enemy. Homosexuality is still an abomination and a sin. So it goes. God's Word does not change because of majority rule. All these events both in America and the Mideast are prophecy coming true. Eat, drink and be merry for a hard rain is gonna fall. You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #52 June 29, 2013 Hi John, QuoteSure that is EXACTLY what the Supreme Court is empowered to do. Yup. Scalia is just a 'I'm gonna take my ball & go home,' kind of guy. Sore loser. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #53 June 29, 2013 kallend You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #54 June 30, 2013 RonD1120*** You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. I guess the Bullshit Prophecy Torch has been passed from Bill Cole(chuteless) to RonD1120. Let the games begin."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #55 June 30, 2013 You better crawl into a deeper hole http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/29/gay-pride-disco-mass_n_3510459.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #56 June 30, 2013 stevebabin I guess the Bullshit Prophecy Torch has been passed from Bill Cole(chuteless) to RonD1120. Let the games begin. YupNever try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #57 June 30, 2013 stevebabin****** You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. I guess the Bullshit Prophecy Torch has been passed from Bill Cole(chuteless) to RonD1120. Let the games begin. No games from me. I will no longer waste my time arguing spiritual truth. I will however offer solace and a path for healing to the victims who ask for it.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #58 June 30, 2013 skinnayYou better crawl into a deeper hole http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/29/gay-pride-disco-mass_n_3510459.html Actually, I'm up on a mountain. I was in that area, NYC, once when I was 18YO. I decided then it was a black hole that I never wanted to peer into again. And, I haven't.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #59 June 30, 2013 QuoteHomosexuality is still an abomination and a sin. Is not. Never was. You just personally find it gross. So did some post-Neolithic old men, who wrote it down. Great marketing campaign for the book, though; should be taught in business schools everywhere. Anyhow, that's the beginning, middle and end of the story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #60 June 30, 2013 RonD1120*** You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. The difference is that I don't call for laws that force my morality on you. You, OTOH, want to force your morality on everyone else.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #61 June 30, 2013 RonD1120********* You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. I guess the Bullshit Prophecy Torch has been passed from Bill Cole(chuteless) to RonD1120. Let the games begin. No games from me. I will no longer waste my time arguing spiritual truth. I will however offer solace and a path for healing to the victims who ask for it. If it was the truth it wouldn't be so difficult to defend. It wouldn't require faith to believe it, and you wouldn't need to go to meetings every week to try to stay convinced of it. There are a lot of people in this world who need healing from your "spiritual truth". Your chosen belief system is the problem, Ron, not the solution."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #62 June 30, 2013 kallend ****** You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. The difference is that I don't call for laws that force my morality on you. You, OTOH, want to force your morality on everyone else. Trying to force a lack of morality on someone is just as bad, if not worse.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #63 June 30, 2013 turtlespeed ********* You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. The difference is that I don't call for laws that force my morality on you. You, OTOH, want to force your morality on everyone else. Trying to force a lack of morality on someone is just as bad, if not worse.How, exactly, could someone force a lack of morality on you, Turtle?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #64 June 30, 2013 turtlespeed ********* You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. The difference is that I don't call for laws that force my morality on you. You, OTOH, want to force your morality on everyone else. Trying to force a lack of morality on someone is just as bad, if not worse.Arrant nonsense. Who is forcing you to act contrary to your moral code? Is someone forcing you into a gay marriage? Is someone forcing you to be an abortion provider?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 362 #65 June 30, 2013 QuoteIn the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends.You are, of course, free to believe whatever you wish. You are even free to try to convince me to adopt your beliefs. However, thanks to the First Amendment, you are not free to use the power of the government to force your religious beliefs on me, or to force me to live in accordance with your beliefs and not my own. Though you do not see it, efforts to use the law to enforce evangelical Christian morality makes proponents of such laws no different than advocates of Sharia law; both are enemies of American principles of religious freedom. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #66 June 30, 2013 Hi Ron, Quote I will no longer waste my time arguing spiritual truth. I don't waste my time doing that either. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #67 June 30, 2013 Andy9o8QuoteHomosexuality is still an abomination and a sin. Is not. Never was. You just personally find it gross. So did some post-Neolithic old men, who wrote it down. Great marketing campaign for the book, though; should be taught in business schools everywhere. Anyhow, that's the beginning, middle and end of the story. As an attorney you may be interested in this statement by my pastor and on behalf of our church and the church internationally concerning DOMA. "It is a shame that it has come to this but, we will not uphold the law of the land. No activities of any sort will be held by that group of people on any church property or in our church facilities."Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #68 June 30, 2013 kallend****** You live your life your way, and don't try to force others conform to your myths. Then we'll all be happy. The problem is when folks like you attempt to code your morality into law for others who don't agree with you. In the 17 and 18th Centuries it all started out as Christian. Your myths have been successfully forced on us. Fortunately, our happiness is not dependent on what you and your ilk do. We know how it ends. But, life is going to get very hard in the near future. The difference is that I don't call for laws that force my morality on you. You, OTOH, want to force your morality on everyone else. We just want America to continue with the morality of its beginning. The die has been cast. You and the others like you have won. Now you can be happy, happy, happy. We are pulling out into our little corners and settlements. You can have the rest of the world and all it has to offer. America is going to be divided up much like Europe with all its associated decadence and debauchery. New England, Chicago, parts of Colorado and most of California will become areas to avoid at all costs. It's your victory, enjoy your spoils. I am just going to watch the maggots feed.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #69 June 30, 2013 RonD1120 We just want America to continue with the morality of its beginning. Now would that be the slavery, slaughter of native americans, witch hunts, or what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #70 June 30, 2013 skinnay*** We just want America to continue with the morality of its beginning. Now would that be the slavery, slaughter of native americans, witch hunts, or what? Well, I don't know. Let's start with the Mayflower Compact. ETA: Here's a website for you. http://www.allabouthistory.org/mayflower-compact.htmLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #71 June 30, 2013 RonD1120****** We just want America to continue with the morality of its beginning. Now would that be the slavery, slaughter of native americans, witch hunts, or what? Well, I don't know. Let's start with the Mayflower Compact. ETA: Here's a website for you. http://www.allabouthistory.org/mayflower-compact.htm So what about the slavery, you think it was a bad idea to get rid of that too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #72 June 30, 2013 skinnay********* We just want America to continue with the morality of its beginning. Now would that be the slavery, slaughter of native americans, witch hunts, or what? Well, I don't know. Let's start with the Mayflower Compact. ETA: Here's a website for you. http://www.allabouthistory.org/mayflower-compact.htm So what about the slavery, you think it was a bad idea to get rid of that too? Slavery, now called human traffiking, still exists. It always has and probably always will. In the case of America, it was started by a black man. Also perpetuated by blacks in Africa. Now where did you find that justified in the Mayflower Compact?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #73 June 30, 2013 RonD1120************ We just want America to continue with the morality of its beginning. Now would that be the slavery, slaughter of native americans, witch hunts, or what? Well, I don't know. Let's start with the Mayflower Compact. ETA: Here's a website for you. http://www.allabouthistory.org/mayflower-compact.htm So what about the slavery, you think it was a bad idea to get rid of that too? Slavery, now called human traffiking, still exists. It always has and probably always will. In the case of America, it was started by a black man. Also perpetuated by blacks in Africa. Now where did you find that justified in the Mayflower Compact? Why is it so hard to answer the actual question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #74 June 30, 2013 skinnay Why is it so hard to answer the actual question? It is a silly question.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #75 June 30, 2013 RonD1120*** Why is it so hard to answer the actual question? It is a silly question. You're just scared to answer it, aren't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites