ayevee8toryear 0 #1 June 30, 2013 http://rt.com/usa/nsa-prism-slides-surveillance-435/ Interesting, step over the constitutional line much? QuoteIn the surveillance process, NSA often obtains its live data from the FBI that retrieves matching information, using government equipment from companies such as Google, Microsoft and Yahoo. With the participation of those companies, PRISM – and therefore Washington intelligence workers – "incidentally" have access to the bulk of Americans’ email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice-over-IP (Skype) chats, file transfers and social networking details. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2 June 30, 2013 Well, at least it will now stop, since it has all been exposed.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strife 0 #3 June 30, 2013 slideshare now with slideware http://fr.slideshare.net/EmilandDC/dear-nsa-let-me-take-care-ou Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 June 30, 2013 RonD1120Well, at least it will now stop, since it has all been exposed. I'm not sure if you're serious or trying to be funny. I'm hoping you're making a joke, but I really have my doubts.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayevee8toryear 0 #5 June 30, 2013 QuoteWell, at least it will now stop, since it has all been exposed. You are not the only one that hopes so... http://rt.com/news/eu-demand-clarification-us-spying-440/comments/page-6/ QuoteEU demands ‘full clarification’ over NSA spying on European diplomats, warns of severe impact on relations “I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of US authorities spying on EU offices,” said the President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz. “If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on EU-US relations.” “On behalf of the European Parliament, I demand full clarification and require further information speedily from the US authorities with regard to these allegations," he added. Meanwhile, Germany's justice minister also called for an immediate explanation from the United States saying the news that Washington bugged European Union offices was "reminiscent of the Cold War." "It must ultimately be immediately and extensively explained by the American side whether media reports about completely disproportionate tapping measures by the US in the EU are accurate or not," Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger said in a statement. Other EU diplomats also expressed shock concerning the latest batch of revelations in the NSA leak, reported by Der Spiegel magazine on Saturday. "If these reports are true, it's disgusting,” Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn told Der Spiegel. "The United States would be better off monitoring its secret services rather than its allies,” Asselborn continued. “We must get a guarantee from the very highest level now that this stops immediately." A spokesman for the Office of the US Director of National Intelligence had no comment on the Der Spiegel story, Reuters reported. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #6 June 30, 2013 Relax. This fixes everything. http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/06/28/blackout-defense-department-blocks-all-articles-about-nsa-leaks-from-millions-of-computers I don't know why the Europeans are so upset. Even in this webforum, numerous domestic posters have repeatedly posted that foreign sensitivities are of absolutely no import or concern. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/germany-bugging_n_3524755.html But, just in case you foreigners forgot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpPABLW6F_A [/sarcasm] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #7 June 30, 2013 AggieDave***Well, at least it will now stop, since it has all been exposed. I'm not sure if you're serious or trying to be funny. I'm hoping you're making a joke, but I really have my doubts. I was expecting a response like, "yeah, right."Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,395 #8 June 30, 2013 Quote EU demands ‘full clarification’ over NSA spying on European diplomats, warns of severe impact on relations “I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of US authorities spying on EU offices,” said the President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz. “If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on EU-US relations.” Well, if they haven't done anything wrong; what do they have to worry about? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayevee8toryear 0 #9 June 30, 2013 QuoteWell, if they haven't done anything wrong; what do they have to worry about? Errr, I dunno, maybe privacy? Trust? Diplomacy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,395 #10 July 1, 2013 ayevee8toryearQuoteWell, if they haven't done anything wrong; what do they have to worry about? Errr, I dunno, maybe privacy? Trust? Diplomacy? Now what a second, in this day & age... don't we need to understand that our need for security is more important than our right to privacy?Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayevee8toryear 0 #11 July 1, 2013 I overlooked your sarcasm. Maybe the crazy faces might have been a giveaway. lol Every person on the planet that uses the major internet sites, which is most of us, now knows they no longer enjoy the privacy they were under the impression they had. The 100th monkey may be conjured from this debacle. Not a good scene for the US government, or those that have commandeered it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,395 #12 July 1, 2013 >>Not a good scene for the US government, or those that have commandeered it. No, it's not. It is beyond Orwellian and in a mere 18 years since the Internet GUI's came out; we have let them take it as well. And, it's happening at speeds greater than Moore's Law. Half the government should be dismantled beginning with this DHS "Thing."Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 July 1, 2013 BIGUN>>Not a good scene for the US government, or those that have commandeered it. No, it's not. It is beyond Orwellian and in a mere 18 years since the Internet GUI's came out; we have let them take it as well. And, it's happening at speeds greater than Moore's Law. Half the government should be dismantled beginning with this DHS "Thing." The Liberals would disagree with you. They think the bigger the government, the better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #14 July 1, 2013 QuoteThe Liberals would disagree with you. They think the bigger the government, the better. Generally it's the conservatives who think the only part of government worth funding is the security and defense apparatus. Remember, "liberal" doesn't mean, "everything GravityMaster doesn't like." - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #15 July 1, 2013 You are going to have a hard time convincing me that anyone deeply involved with government wants to make it smaller or reduce the budget. Not employees, not contractors, not elected employees, nobody. Call them Democrats, Republicans, Independents...they are being paid by the machine. Why would they want to dismantle it?I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,103 #16 July 1, 2013 davjohnsYou are going to have a hard time convincing me that anyone deeply involved with government wants to make it smaller or reduce the budget. Not employees, not contractors, not elected employees, nobody. Call them Democrats, Republicans, Independents...they are being paid by the machine. Why would they want to dismantle it? Welcome to the machine.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,395 #17 July 1, 2013 Dave is spot on. Let's not throw too many rocks because it 's been a growing issue no matter which party affiliation. And, we need to remember that it was Bush who created the largest monstrosity of our time.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 July 1, 2013 BIGUNDave is spot on. Let's not throw too many rocks because it 's been a growing issue no matter which party affiliation. And, we need to remember that it was Bush who created the largest monstrosity of our time. Bush created the fast food joint that all the obese diabetics blame for their fatness. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayevee8toryear 0 #19 July 1, 2013 The Left/Right Paradigm is a farce. The puppet show in the forefront bears no resemblance of the bigger picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 July 1, 2013 Hmmm. If he did it, you must give him a LOT of intelligence points. I believe it was his handlers, just like Obama's handlers. Neither one has the mental fortitude to wipe their own ass.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #21 July 1, 2013 lawrocket Bush created the fast food joint that all the obese diabetics blame for their fatness. Did Buddha say that? Sounds like a quote to me.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 July 1, 2013 BIGUNDave is spot on. Let's not throw too many rocks because it 's been a growing issue no matter which party affiliation. And, we need to remember that it was Bush who created the largest monstrosity of our time. For the record, I consider Bush very liberal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #23 July 1, 2013 turtlespeedHmmm. If he did it, you must give him a LOT of intelligence points. I believe it was his handlers, just like Obama's handlers. Neither one has the mental fortitude to wipe their own ass. +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 July 1, 2013 DanGQuoteThe Liberals would disagree with you. They think the bigger the government, the better. Generally it's the conservatives who think the only part of government worth funding is the security and defense apparatus. Remember, "liberal" doesn't mean, "everything GravityMaster doesn't like." What is the #1 priority for the President of the U.S.? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,395 #25 July 1, 2013 turtlespeedHmmm. If he did it, you must give him a LOT of intelligence points. I believe it was his handlers, just like Obama's handlers. Neither one has the mental fortitude to wipe their own ass. Duly Noted.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites