Rioting over the zimmerman case should be an embarrasment to blacks

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Andy9o8

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If the author of this post does not know the difference between an apostrophe before the "s" and one after the "s", then we might as well all slit our wrists.

Make my day, slit your wrists ... with all due respect to lawrocket (who is a good guy), this world would be a much better off with less slime bag lawyers in it.

Seriously? You don't like what I write online so you openly tell me you want me dead? Would you like my address so you can openly threaten my children, too?


ETA: The preferred usage in context would be "fewer", not "less".

preferred usage by you might be fewer, rather than less maybe, but then again that's a purely subjective suggestion anyways...

Why do you lefties always have to try to tell others how to even talk now?

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

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Why do you lefties always have to try to tell others how to even talk now?

Let's back up a second here and see where we came from. I was making a comment (a personal opinion) that the only reason why we are where we are with this issue was because the media has blown the whole incident up far beyond anywhere where it should have gone, and this Andy character took exception to my comments and went on the attack (apparently I am not entitled to the opinion that the Consensus Mainstream Media is dishonest). Then he made a silly remark saying "why don't we all slit our wrists". Seeing that I have the personal opinion that lawyers are sleeze bags (with all due respect to lawrocket who is a good guy), I made the comment of "go ahead make my day" and now it has escalated to where apparently I am now making death threats towards his children? For fuck sakes can this whole thing get any more retarded.

Want to know what is wrong in America these days, look no further than the dishonest media, the predatory lawyers, the special interest groups and the corrupt politicians (who are pretty much all lawyers) who cater to the media and the special interests to keep their wheels greased.

PS: let he/she who has never made a spelling/grammatical error in their life cast the first stone if my spelling and grammar do not live up to their standards.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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CanuckInUSA

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Why do you lefties always have to try to tell others how to even talk now?

Let's back up a second here and see where we came from. I was making a comment (a personal opinion) that the only reason why we are where we are with this issue was because the media has blown the whole incident up far beyond anywhere where it should have gone, and this Andy character took exception to my comments and went on the attack (apparently I am not entitled to the opinion that the Consensus Mainstream Media is dishonest). Then he made a silly remark saying "why don't we all slit our wrists". Seeing that I have the personal opinion that lawyers are sleeze bags (with all due respect to lawrocket who is a good guy), I made the comment of "go ahead make my day" and now it has escalated to where apparently I am now making death threats towards his children? For fuck sakes can this whole thing get any more retarded.

Want to know what is wrong in America these days, look no further than the dishonest media, the predatory lawyers, the special interest groups and the corrupt politicians (who are pretty much all lawyers) who cater to the media and the special interests to keep their wheels greased.

PS: let he/she who has never made a spelling/grammatical error in their life cast the first stone if my spelling and grammar do not live up to their standards.

Oh man, your post was going real great but then you just had to use that "retarded" word.

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tkhayes

the book is not 'racism'. It's about racism. If you have not read it, then you have no reason to comment on it.

People of color are systematically discriminated against in this country and every judicial statistic supports that. Unless of course you have countering data, in which case I am all ears.

But you do not in fact have any data other that your own opinion.

Yes and no. There is certainly discrimination that goes on in the country, but its a far cry from what it used to be. As far as criminal stats go, the funny thing about it is that while certain ethnicity groups commit a disproportionate amount of crime (or at least, convicted of it), race goes right out the window when you factor in family status. In other words, it doesn't matter your skin color. If you come from abroken home, you're likely to commit crime and be jailed. Unfortunately, if you're part of certain groups, you're more likely to be from a broken home that's not so well off.

And I'm sure someone will demand a LMGTFY, so here's one of many links: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1995/03/bg1026nbsp-the-real-root-causes-of-violent-crime

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.

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tkhayes

Because people of color in the USA are still widely discriminated against, and systematically at that. And mostly reflected in the criminal justice system. So they see problems with the criminal justice system, and they protest what they see as a continuation of that discrimination. It's not rocket science

No doubt they "see" problems. But how far their vision is from reality here is perhaps a reflection of a really low high school graduation rate.

The only reason this trial occurred was due to perceptions of criminal injustice. The result was a given.

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kelpdiver

***Because people of color in the USA are still widely discriminated against, and systematically at that. And mostly reflected in the criminal justice system. So they see problems with the criminal justice system, and they protest what they see as a continuation of that discrimination. It's not rocket science

No doubt they "see" problems. But how far their vision is from reality here is perhaps a reflection of a really low high school graduation rate.

The only reason this trial occurred was due to perceptions of criminal injustice. The result was a given.

I know an awful lot of very highly educated black people. If you think that the "perception", among black people, of ongoing systemic racial discrimination and pervasive racial inequality in the police-judicial system is concentrated disproportionately on those with poor educations, you are very, very sorely mistaken.

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Andy9o8

I know an awful lot of very highly educated black people. If you think that the "perception", among black people, of ongoing systemic racial discrimination and pervasive racial inequality in the police-judicial system is concentrated disproportionately on those with poor educations, you are very, very sorely mistaken.

If they lump this case into the same category, then their higher education failed them. This isn't Oscar Grant (and there was a conviction there).

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My life has been greatly enriched by reading the racist bigoted remarks of an unemployed plumber.

And now to go bash my head against the concrete to further enrich myself.

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This is why Zimmerman is a "white Hispanic." Much like the President is a "White African American."

ROFLMAO!
Yea, our president the half white guy!!!!

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The Heritage foundation? Really?

At least the book I quoted is backed up by data from real sources. Real data, real sources. Not opinions written by PhD's hired by a conservative think tank.

His quotations are simply parroting of other right-wing conservative opinions. I actually enjoy the use of facts. real data.

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mr2mk1g

It's ensure. To insure something is to take out a contract with a third party to underwrite a loss. When you ensure something you take steps to make sure it comes to pass.

I know you just love to point out typos and when people cant spell. Perhaps you should have devoted as much attention to the last line where it shows the name of the person I quoted it from.

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Fearing for their lives after receiving "an enormous amount of death threats," George Zimmerman's parents have remained in hiding since a Florida jury cleared their son of murder charges in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they told ABC News.

The Zimmermans told ABC they are too afraid to return to their Orlando home, and they haven't even spoken to their son, who also is in hiding.

"Under the circumstances, we have not been able to talk to him," Gladys Zimmerman told ABC's Barbara Walters. "To tell you the truth, we don't trust anything, not even the phones."

"We have had an enormous amount of death threats. George's legal counsel has had death threats, the police chief of Sanford, many people have had death threats," Robert Zimmerman said. "'Everyone with Georgie's DNA should be killed' — Just every kind of horrible thing you can imagine."

George Zimmerman lives off small stipends from his legal defense fund and is unemployed and without health insurance, Gladys Zimmerman said. Asked if he can ever have a normal life again, she said, "Only time will tell."

"Even for us, we have not been living a normal life for the past months. It is hard," she said. "We have lost everything, everything — the whole family, not only George. The whole family. We have lost everything."

After deliberating for 16 hours, a jury of six women late Saturday found Zimmerman not guilty of second-degree murder, sparking a wave of protests across the nation. Gladys Zimmerman called the demonstrations "hurtful."

"This is America, and we went through all of this with the judicial system," Gladys Zimmerman said. "They wanted an arrest for my son. They got an arrest. Now let's, you know, find a verdict ... now they have a verdict. ... He went through the whole process they were pushing for, and now they are not happy with the verdict, and I pray. I pray for them, for God to touch their heart."

Zimmerman's parents continued to defend him against charges that he is a racist or that he initially approached Martin while on a community patrol because the teenager was black.

"He's never been taught to be a racist," Robert Zimmerman said. "Color is the last thing to come to his mind."

"When George first saw Trayvon Martin he had no idea what color he was," he added. "He knew he was inside a gated community. He didn't recognize him as living there. It was raining. He was just casually walking very slowly. But George did not initially know what race a person was."

He said the decision to bring charges against his son was based on politics rather than the facts.

"I never thought that we would see so much hatred, and the hatred is not brought on by any racial incident," Robert Zimmerman said. "It was brought on by attorneys being totally untruthful, other people being involved, having a certain narrative, having a certain agenda, and making this situation race-based and a political issue."

Asked what they would say to Martin's family, Gladys Zimmerman said, "We are deeply sorry for this tragedy.

"We pray for Trayvon Martin to be in a better place," she said. "He is always in our prayers."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/zimmerman-parents-death-threats/2013/07/16/id/515324?s=al&promo_code=1430E-1

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I cannot comprehend not being able to defend yourself from a violent attacker.

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normiss

I cannot comprehend not being able to defend yourself from a violent attacker.

Seems the Brits can
It is what they want and expect

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>I cannot comprehend not being able to defend yourself from a violent attacker.

Martin knew what that felt like - at least for a few moments before he died.

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Wonder if he was wishing he had one of his guns during those moments...

I was always told not to start a fight I couldn't finish.

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Wheres the like button?

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billvon

>I cannot comprehend not being able to defend yourself from a violent attacker.

Martin knew what that felt like - at least for a few moments before he died.

perhaps he shouldn't have let his emotions get the best of him and left the ground and pound for another one of his hoodlum friends.

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>perhaps he shouldn't have let his emotions get the best of him and left the ground and
>pound for another one of his hoodlum friends.

yep. If only he had had the brains to stay out of a white neighborhood.

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tkhayes

The Heritage foundation? Really?

At least the book I quoted is backed up by data from real sources. Real data, real sources. Not opinions written by PhD's hired by a conservative think tank.

His quotations are simply parroting of other right-wing conservative opinions. I actually enjoy the use of facts. real data.

I bet you didn't even read it. If you want to counter with studies showing that broken homes have no role whatsoever, be my guest. I'd like to see your "data from real sources."

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.

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Andy9o8

******Because people of color in the USA are still widely discriminated against, and systematically at that. And mostly reflected in the criminal justice system. So they see problems with the criminal justice system, and they protest what they see as a continuation of that discrimination. It's not rocket science

No doubt they "see" problems. But how far their vision is from reality here is perhaps a reflection of a really low high school graduation rate.

The only reason this trial occurred was due to perceptions of criminal injustice. The result was a given.

I know an awful lot of very highly educated black people. If you think that the "perception", among black people, of ongoing systemic racial discrimination and pervasive racial inequality in the police-judicial system is concentrated disproportionately on those with poor educations, you are very, very sorely mistaken.

Funny, free meals, free housing, free legal, free education, free backpacks, free health care, free day care at elementary school, cushy gov't jobs where they do no work and you say they're not on equal footing?
Phooey. You could only hope to have it as good as they do. Around here they all driving Land Rovers! Out on the roads at 11 am and 2pm in the afternoon... with no visible means of support, not to mention the disability parking sign hanging from the rear view mirror.

BTW: just reported Rachael Jeantel was just handed a full college ride.
My kids actually had to pass entrance examinations before I had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in college tuition.

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Unless you've been arrested or convicted of something, in which case you do not qualify anymore for anything.

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I did read it. Did you read "The New Jim Crow"? It is filled with real data, real stats, real references to real stuff.

really.

The article talks about violent crime - and a narrow scope. The New Jim Crow deals with a systematic problem in America that targets people of color.

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billvon

>I cannot comprehend not being able to defend yourself from a violent attacker.

Martin knew what that felt like - at least for a few moments before he died.

Had he not been so confrontational he might still be alive

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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billvon

>perhaps he shouldn't have let his emotions get the best of him and left the ground and
>pound for another one of his hoodlum friends.

yep. If only he had had the brains to stay out of a white neighborhood.

You may want to research this comment and then restate it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln