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turtlespeed

Holder . . . What a piece of work, he is.

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U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, the nation's first black person to hold that post, urged NAACP members convening in Orlando on Tuesday to help overturn stand-your-ground laws that "senselessly expand the concept of self-defense."

The law was expected to be at the center of the second-degree-murder trial of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, but it was not raised at trial. The issue did surface when Zimmerman was arrested.

Rather than prevent violence, Holder said, such laws can encourage it.



Seriously?

Cant go after Zimmerman because you don't have a case.

So you lobby an organization to after Florida because a law was in place that had absolutely nothing to do with the zimmerman trial everyone is all up in arms about.

I believe we are witnessing a political two step.

:S
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normiss

He's gonna have some issues with the rights of states.

Half of them at that.

I cannot imagine a world in which I cannot defend my life.



Liberals don't want you to defend your life when your life is threatened. They're into allowing people to run wild, shooting up the town, doing drugs, etc. all while they're taxing your right to have a gun, and even taking away your right to own a gun. It's almost as if liberals enjoy the mayhem.

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U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, the nation's first black person to hold that post, urged NAACP members convening in Orlando on Tuesday to help overturn stand-your-ground laws that "senselessly expand the concept of self-defense."

The law was expected to be at the center of the second-degree-murder trial of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, but it was not raised at trial. The issue did surface when Zimmerman was arrested.

Rather than prevent violence, Holder said, such laws can encourage it.



Seriously?

Cant go after Zimmerman because you don't have a case.

So you lobby an organization to after Florida because a law was in place that had absolutely nothing to do with the zimmerman trial everyone is all up in arms about.

I believe we are witnessing a political two step.

:S


Sorry, Turtle. For a moment, I thought you made up that quote. "senselessly expand the concept of self-defense" was so outrageous to me that I thought it was a joke. I looked it up. It's a quote.

Sometimes, I'm quite certain I am stuck in 1984...the Orwell verision, not the Van Halen version.

I side with the Buddhist philosopher Jun Fan Lee. He said, "React to violence with greater violence." So, the words "senseless" and "self-defense" just don't go together.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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OHCHUTE

***He's gonna have some issues with the rights of states.

Half of them at that.

I cannot imagine a world in which I cannot defend my life.



Liberals don't want you to defend your life when your life is threatened. They're into allowing people to run wild, shooting up the town, doing drugs, etc. all while they're taxing your right to have a gun, and even taking away your right to own a gun.


weak Troll juju.

Not one of your best.

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It is kind of unsportsman like right, it as if you got your ass beat and after the bell rings you knee the dude in the balls and count it as a win. Fuck up in my book.
They went to trail the jury decided now there crying because the jury didn't decide on there emotion.

I like stand your ground, I like anything that gives us the right to protect our own lives.
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yoink

******He's gonna have some issues with the rights of states.

Half of them at that.

I cannot imagine a world in which I cannot defend my life.



Liberals don't want you to defend your life when your life is threatened. They're into allowing people to run wild, shooting up the town, doing drugs, etc. all while they're taxing your right to have a gun, and even taking away your right to own a gun.


weak Troll juju.

Not one of your best.

actually, your response indicates otherwise
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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yoink

******He's gonna have some issues with the rights of states.

Half of them at that.

I cannot imagine a world in which I cannot defend my life.



Liberals don't want you to defend your life when your life is threatened. They're into allowing people to run wild, shooting up the town, doing drugs, etc. all while they're taxing your right to have a gun, and even taking away your right to own a gun.


weak Troll juju.

Not one of your best.

Not hard to show he's right. They'd rather you literally pee on yourself if being attacked/raped. And specifically encourage passive resistance if your life is in danger.

http://www.ibtimes.com/colorado-college-advises-vomiting-or-urinating-stop-rapists-after-lawmakers-pass-gun-control-bills

Edit: You can blow a whistle too :)

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/02/19/rape-prevention-101-blow-your-whistle-in-a-safe-zone-next-to-the-call-box/
You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.

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devildog

*********He's gonna have some issues with the rights of states.

Half of them at that.

I cannot imagine a world in which I cannot defend my life.



Liberals don't want you to defend your life when your life is threatened. They're into allowing people to run wild, shooting up the town, doing drugs, etc. all while they're taxing your right to have a gun, and even taking away your right to own a gun.


weak Troll juju.

Not one of your best.

Not hard to show he's right. They'd rather you literally pee on yourself if being attacked/raped. And specifically encourage passive resistance if your life is in danger.

http://www.ibtimes.com/colorado-college-advises-vomiting-or-urinating-stop-rapists-after-lawmakers-pass-gun-control-bills

Edit: You can blow a whistle too :)

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/02/19/rape-prevention-101-blow-your-whistle-in-a-safe-zone-next-to-the-call-box/

Visit the State of Maryland. The have the Black Guerrilla Family running the city prison system and running the city-wide trade, all while the mayor and his liberal gang are taxing law abiding citizens for owning guns. They've abolish the right to own an AR15 starting OCT 1. There are no Stand your ground rules in that state: It's if you hurt the perp, you get a law suit and they can take your house! Please don't hurt the perps! Liberals lov peprs: REASON. Perps have family and family are a voting block. Got to treat the perps good, as that means votes for liberal politicians.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/04/24/black_guerilla_family_how_a_gang_took_over_baltimore_s_jails.html

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In the beginning, Eric Holder got chest pains when he found out Zimmerman was not white, but no matter. At least Zimmerman was not black and would be dead meat in the hands of a jury. With such failures, what would any self respecting US Attorney General do? He would incite riots, civil unrest, and remain silent when whites were singled out to be beaten.
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