airdvr 210 #1 July 19, 2013 ...that most of you on here voted this idiot into office. Obama speaks out on Zimmerman verdict http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/19/politics/obama-zimmerman/index.html?hpt=hp_t1#cnn-disqus-area (CNN) -- President Barack Obama said Friday that "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago" So, the president could have been a thug that attacked GZ...nice. "history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. the government should review some state and local legislation, such as Florida's "stand your ground" law, saying they may promote rather than discourage violent confrontations. SYG wasn't part of this case or trial. Get a fuckin' clue.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #2 July 19, 2013 Every day for years millions of people were more amazed that people voted George W. Bush into the Whie House for a SECOND time. So it goes. You can either waste energy worrying about it, or you can enjoy your next beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #3 July 19, 2013 For a constitutional lawyer he sure is confused on state rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 July 19, 2013 QuoteSo, the president could have been a thug that attacked GZ...nice. No, what he clearly meant, without your "spin", was that as a young man he, too, could have easily been profiled as "suspicious", based at least partly on racial appearance and being "out of place", while walking down the street. Quote"history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. Actually, in the laws themselves in many jurisdictions, at least until the mid 1960s. But more to your point, the disparity is felt most not in the abstract, but "on the ground", as it were - in the actual enforcement of the laws. And the history is there. And I'm still in the system myself, and I tell you from first-hand observation that it's still there, palpably. QuoteSYG wasn't part of this case or trial. Get a fuckin' clue. Of course it was, it always was. It was part of the context of GZ's state of mind, and possibly TM's as well. Until GZ's attorneys made the tactical decision not to invoke SYG as an affirmative defense, it was the potential 900 pound gorilla in the (court)room. Frankly, even after that it really was, as evidence was admitted at trial that GZ took criminal justice courses in which SYG was part of the curriculum. So SYG was never out of the picture; it always resonated throughout the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #5 July 19, 2013 Andy9o8Every day for years millions of people were more amazed that people voted George W. Bush into the Whie House for a SECOND time. So it goes. You can either waste energy worrying about it, or you can enjoy your next beer. Each is a national embarrassment in his own way. I don't drink. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 July 19, 2013 Quote"history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. Perhaps? the dumbest statement ever written on this site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #7 July 19, 2013 He meant Trayvon could have been President in 2048. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #8 July 19, 2013 If "the history" cannot go away, we will never move beyond this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #9 July 19, 2013 QuotenormissIf "the history" cannot go away, we will never move beyond this. He claims there is no "history" of laws specifically targeting minorities and then only concedes that "perhaps" some laws were enforced against minorities unequally. If one is so ignorant of history, (and he's not) any rational argument is pointless. This is straight from the GOP handbook, repeat a lie frequently enough and it soon must be a fact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #10 July 19, 2013 "I think it's important to recognize that the African- American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #11 July 19, 2013 Quotehistory of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Isn’t that statistically accurate. For the same crime a lot more minorities end up in jail then whites?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 July 19, 2013 normiss For a constitutional lawyer he sure is confused on state rights. I think he knows But he is not a leader He is a community rabble rouser It is the only way this narcissist, immature, inexperienced person who is in way over his head knows how to try and get his way On the other hand, he is one of the best calculating politician we have ever seen. Regardless of your age. Cause he has gotten almost everything he has wanted So, stir up the racism bs, look for sympathy, and use this non-issue of a verdict to go after one he has not won yet. Gun control He is using all of us And it is no accident Because in the mean time, he gets away with not being linked to anything Even the Washington (com)Post has editorialized about it know He's good real good"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #13 July 19, 2013 Quotenormiss"I think it's important to recognize that the African- American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away." I agree with you 100%, While things are 99% better than they were 100 years ago, profiling still happens. a friend of mine 's mother is a black Congresswomen from Berkley, She has been pulled over in her car with congressional plates and the first words asked of her were" Where's the congressman" She has been accused of soliciting by SFO police. The fact is, the race card is played so often that it diminishes the genuine cases. But to flat out deny that there were ever laws that only targeted minorities is just ignorant, ask Rosa Parks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #14 July 19, 2013 airdvr...that most of you on here voted this idiot into office. Obama speaks out on Zimmerman verdict http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/19/politics/obama-zimmerman/index.html?hpt=hp_t1#cnn-disqus-area (CNN) -- President Barack Obama said Friday that "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago" So, the president could have been a thug that attacked GZ...nice. "history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. the government should review some state and local legislation, such as Florida's "stand your ground" law, saying they may promote rather than discourage violent confrontations. SYG wasn't part of this case or trial. Get a fuckin' clue. What angers me, not amazed, is that BHO made an impromptu race baiting news release. A real leader would have remained neutral or spoke about respecting the judicial system. He was totally out of line as POTUS when he stated that if Trayvon was of age and armed he would have been justified to invoke SYG because he was being followed by a white man in a car. Prepare for SHTF, coming to a city near you. Fundamentally change America, yeah baby, rip away at social civility at every opportunity. You BHO supporting fools should be hanging your heads in shame.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #15 July 19, 2013 rushmc ***For a constitutional lawyer he sure is confused on state rights. I think he knows But he is not a leader He is a community rabble rouser It is the only way this narcissist, immature, inexperienced person who is in way over his head knows how to try and get his way On the other hand, he is one of the best calculating politician we have ever seen. Regardless of your age. Cause he has gotten almost everything he has wanted So, stir up the racism bs, look for sympathy, and use this non-issue of a verdict to go after one he has not won yet. Gun control He is using all of us And it is no accident Because in the mean time, he gets away with not being linked to anything Even the Washington (com)Post has editorialized about it know He's good real good Absolutely! He sucked people in with his 'educated speech' meanwhile destroying this nation from the inside out. As an example, look at how deftly he swerved the American attention from the IRS 'scandal' to the Zimmerman verdict. He's a cagey one, he is! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #16 July 19, 2013 >Prepare for SHTF, coming to a city near you. Still angry over the lack of riots in Florida? There's a lot of republicans out there very disappointed that blacks did not live up to republican's image of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #17 July 19, 2013 billvon>Prepare for SHTF, coming to a city near you. Still angry over the lack of riots in Florida? There's a lot of republicans out there very disappointed that blacks did not live up to republican's image of them. You are not in the loop. SHTF refers to a lot more than riots. And, I think your statement is a trolling attempt. Here's a link to get you up to speed. http://prophezine.com/ Your creds are decreasing son. You used to be a moderator. Now you are more progressive rabble rouser. But, what the hey, this is cyberworld encounter group.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #18 July 19, 2013 billvon>Prepare for SHTF, coming to a city near you. Still angry over the lack of riots in Florida? There's a lot of republicans out there very disappointed that blacks did not live up to republican's image of them. No, the apocalypse is coming. You know, what he means is Old Testament, real wrath of God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #19 July 19, 2013 WHAT?? "repeat a lie frequently enough and it soon must be a fact." I thought that was directly out of the DEMs Play Book...I'm going back deep into my super secret DEM files and look this up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #20 July 19, 2013 OK...damn I couldn't find it in the DEM play book or the Rep play book. I did find it in Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels Propaganda Play book. "Mein Kampf" "das Grosse Luge" So we are both wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #21 July 19, 2013 jclalor Quote"history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. Perhaps? the dumbest statement ever written on this site. I was prepared to write a long winded response to your dumb statement but I decided to spend my time more productively.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #22 July 19, 2013 Darius11Quotehistory of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Isn’t that statistically accurate. For the same crime a lot more minorities end up in jail then whites? I didn't read that. I read laws that were specifically targeted to race. Those haven't existed in a generation or 2.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #23 July 19, 2013 billvon>Prepare for SHTF, coming to a city near you. Still angry over the lack of riots in Florida? There's a lot of republicans out there very disappointed that blacks did not live up to republican's image of them. ------------------------------------------------------ You need to pull your head out. There were riots...did you not see the posts of thousands of black people stopping traffic on 288 in hour and the white woman saying she was trying to get her granddaughter to the hospital when the thug black dude punched her? Obviously not...either that or you have selective vision for only crimes committed by white people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #24 July 19, 2013 Does it have to be beer?? Can I just enjoy my next zombie???Though I'll admit after the second I have a hard time just trying to sit up right. Holy Crap it's Friday!! Let the drinking begin!!! Crud,I sound like an alcoholic.No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #25 July 19, 2013 The new season of walking dead comes out around the time of my birthday in October. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites