OHCHUTE 0 #51 July 20, 2013 GeorgiaDonQuoteWe'd like minorities to act like civilized human beings.Speaker's corner has become quite the cesspool of late. Certain "contributors" make me feel like taking a shower every time I see one of their posts. Don Careful now. Next year some "contributors" will be a minority. Lucky for you, they've been civilized for centuries so you'll have no worries with the up and coming new minority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #52 July 20, 2013 rushmc ********* Yet another thread that exposes the bigots. Hate gays. Want to control women. Hate immigrants. Hate minorities. Despise science. It's nice to know who you are. Race card attempt beep beep beep You are so sweet John ya soooooooooo sweet Thanks for the quick confirmation. The only confirmation is how low you will goThe additional confirmation was not needed, but thanks anyway.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #53 July 20, 2013 jclalor Quote"history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. Perhaps? the dumbest statement ever written on this site. I have seen many times where blacks got longer sentences or found guilty more often than whites. I'm sure that's what he meant."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #54 July 20, 2013 BillyVance*** Quote"history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. Perhaps? the dumbest statement ever written on this site. I have seen many times where blacks got longer sentences or found guilty more often than whites. I'm sure that's what he meant. We've all seen it. The bigots are simply in denial.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #55 July 20, 2013 BillyVance*** Quote"history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. Perhaps? the dumbest statement ever written on this site. I have seen many times where blacks got longer sentences or found guilty more often than whites. I'm sure that's what he meant. Well, yes, but it also rather clearly suggests that race-based criminal laws did not exist in the US, at least in modern times. And that's simply incorrect. For example, Jim Crow laws in the Deep South were enforced by criminal sanctions until 1964. That's not only within my lifetime, it's within my active memory; and jokes about Twardo notwithstanding, that's modern enough for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #56 July 20, 2013 Andy9o8****** Quote"history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. Perhaps? the dumbest statement ever written on this site. I have seen many times where blacks got longer sentences or found guilty more often than whites. I'm sure that's what he meant. Well, yes, but it also rather clearly suggests that race-based criminal laws did not exist in the US, at least in modern times. And that's simply incorrect. For example, Jim Crow laws in the Deep South were enforced by criminal sanctions until 1964. That's not only within my lifetime, it's within my active memory; and jokes about Twardo notwithstanding, that's modern enough for me. Absolutely it's modern enough for you to keep dredging it up and somehow trying to equate it to today's circumstances. It's ancient history and only matters to the people who would rather remain victims than take responsibility for their lot in life. As I said earlier Barry could have pointed out what he did differently in his life to end up as POTUS and not some thug in Florida. Or maybe you think it's amazing that he was born in 1961 and somehow wasn't lynched. I'm willing to bet that if you asked Barry why he didn't end up like TM he'd give alot of the credit to the people who raised him. So, if you want to make TM a victim let's have a look at who raised him, or didn't.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #57 July 20, 2013 All of this talk of TM having a thuggish character is only relevant if he was in the process of engaging in thuggery when GZ spotted him and decided to confront him. Otherwise, it's utterly irrelevant. GZ didn't know TM's personal history when he saw him. Put another way, if a person who is lawfully walking down the street happens to have a sketchy past, he's still just lawfully walking down the street. And it most certainly does relate to "today's circumstances". Even today, if you think a black male walking alone, in a residential neighborhood in the US that isn't predominantly black, does not raise suspicions in other people's eyes that he's up to no good, then you are naive indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #58 July 20, 2013 They needn't be black to get my attention.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #59 July 20, 2013 You're really too old to do all this twisting and stretching without hurting yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #60 July 20, 2013 In the beginning GZ stated that he observed TM walking close to the residences, not on the sidewalk. Maybe that was later disputed. GZ was within his duties and responsibilities as a neighborhood watchmen to pursue a suspicious character regardless of where he was walking.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #61 July 20, 2013 RonD1120In the beginning GZ stated that he observed TM walking close to the residences, not on the sidewalk. Maybe that was later disputed. GZ was within his duties and responsibilities as a neighborhood watchmen to pursue a suspicious character regardless of where he was walking. Suspicious character - (American English) - A slang term occasionally used to denote a nigger wearing a hooded sweatshirt in a neighborhood where lots of white women live. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #62 July 20, 2013 Testimony in court stated this neighborhood was plagued with B&E's and I think a home invasion or two. That is why GZ started the Neighborhood Watch program.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #63 July 20, 2013 RonD1120Testimony in court stated this neighborhood was plagued with B&E's and I think a home invasion or two. That is why GZ started the Neighborhood Watch program. My above joke aside, nobody disputes that, Ron. So you take that factor, and then combine it with the factor I've been trying to get people to understand. Then light the fuse. Then run like hell. That's the perfect storm that ruined 2 young men's lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #64 July 20, 2013 Andy9o8***Testimony in court stated this neighborhood was plagued with B&E's and I think a home invasion or two. That is why GZ started the Neighborhood Watch program. My above joke aside, nobody disputes that, Ron. So you take that factor, and then combine it with the factor I've been trying to get people to understand. Then light the fuse. Then run like hell. That's the perfect storm that ruined 2 young men's lives. Really, no argument there. Bottom line it is a tragedy.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #65 July 20, 2013 When I get settled into the mountains, I am going continue my ministry to military veterans through the PGR. Maybe I will be able to establish connections to deal with the homeless and those with substance use disorder. In other words, just mellow out. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #66 July 20, 2013 QuoteGZ was within his duties and responsibilities as a neighborhood watchmen to pursue a suspicious character regardless of where he was walking. QuoteChris Tutko, director of Neighborhood Watch for the National Sheriffs' Association, said Zimmerman broke some cardinal rules. First, he approached a stranger he suspected of wrongdoing. "If you see something suspicious, you report it, you step aside and you let law enforcement do their job," Tutko said. "This guy went way beyond the call of duty. At the least, he's overzealous." Second, Zimmerman carried a handgun. Police departments and sheriff's offices that train volunteers advise them never to carry weapons — though Zimmerman broke no laws by doing so because he has a concealed-weapons permit. "There's no reason to carry a gun," Tutko said. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-24/news/os-trayvon-martin-neighborhood-watch-20120321_1_zimmerman-community-ties-neighborhood-watch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #67 July 20, 2013 Andy9o8***In the beginning GZ stated that he observed TM walking close to the residences, not on the sidewalk. Maybe that was later disputed. GZ was within his duties and responsibilities as a neighborhood watchmen to pursue a suspicious character regardless of where he was walking. Suspicious character - (American English) - A slang term occasionally used to denote a nigger wearing a hooded sweatshirt in a neighborhood where lots of white women live. You're so hung up on it just being a hoodie. What else is the person wearing? What color/design/style is their clothes? Are they wearing jewelry? Are they just walking down the street or ducking around houses?Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #68 July 20, 2013 He was within his rights. Overzealous same as proactive. Liberal progressive think reactive. I get it.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #69 July 21, 2013 funjumper101***...that most of you on here voted this idiot into office. Obama speaks out on Zimmerman verdict http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/19/politics/obama-zimmerman/index.html?hpt=hp_t1#cnn-disqus-area (CNN) -- President Barack Obama said Friday that "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago" So, the president could have been a thug that attacked GZ...nice. "history of racial disparity in our criminal laws" Umm...perhaps a history of racial disparity in the enforcement of our laws. the government should review some state and local legislation, such as Florida's "stand your ground" law, saying they may promote rather than discourage violent confrontations. SYG wasn't part of this case or trial. Get a fuckin' clue. Filthy racist scumbaggery rears it ugly head. As is pointed out repeatedly by other posters in this thread, TM had the right to walk through the neighborhood UNMOLESTED. A grey hoodie does not a thug make, unless you are a racist scumbag. The fact that you identify a black male wearing a hoodie as a thug clearly shows the bias that you share with Zimmerman. Zimmerman should have been convicted based on the FACT that, by getting out of his car and following Martin, AFTER he has already called the police, that action puts Zimmerman as the aggressor. The fact that Florida's laws are so poorly written so as to allow a thug like Zimmerman to follow confront, and then shoot an unarmed person who he picked a fight with, is disgusting to most people. The maggots who think that Zimmerman was justified will hopefully rot in hell for their outrageous beliefs. God WILL punish them, in a just universe. Obama is not perfect. He was, by far and away, the superior candidate in both of the elections that he won. The racist bullshit that has been slung his way by the racist scumbags that make up the right wing conservatard movement is shameful. Shame, a concept that is completely incomprehensible to the 'tards. Broken nose, knows no race. We can only wish you and the rest of your liberal friends are on the ground being beaten to death. What will you think then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #70 July 22, 2013 Quote Zimmerman should have been convicted based on the FACT that, by getting out of his car and following Martin, AFTER he has already called the police, that action puts Zimmerman as the aggressor. Sorry to burst your bubble but TM had 4 minutes to leave and chose not to. Could have made it home 4 times but chose not to. If seeing someone walking around in the rain between condos doesn't raise an alarm for you then you must live in fantasyland. Quote The maggots who think that Zimmerman was justified will hopefully rot in hell for their outrageous beliefs. God WILL punish them, in a just universe. Your make-believe friend in the sky is going to strike down with furious vengeance? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-IVQ-UP8yyY Ummm...yea. Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #71 July 22, 2013 QuoteSorry to burst your bubble but TM had 4 minutes to leave and chose not to. So did Zimmerman. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #72 July 22, 2013 DanGQuoteSorry to burst your bubble but TM had 4 minutes to leave and chose not to. So did Zimmerman. Z didn't need to leave as he lost sight of TM. Plus, he told police he'd meet them there and for them to call him when they got there. Z was under no obligation to leave. In fact, both men broke no laws being there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #73 July 22, 2013 QuoteZ was under no obligation to leave. In fact, both men broke no laws being there. My God, I agree with something you said. I feel ill. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #74 July 22, 2013 DanGQuoteZ was under no obligation to leave. In fact, both men broke no laws being there. My God, I agree with something you said. I feel ill. So Dan, what's your theory on what happened next?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #75 July 22, 2013 DanGQuoteZ was under no obligation to leave. In fact, both men broke no laws being there. My God, I agree with something you said. I feel ill. I know. It's tough for liberals to agree, as most of the time they beat around the truth just to disagree. Now, who broke the law first? And was the response justified under law? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites