gpflyer 0 #1 July 24, 2006 I went on my second jump today! It went great! I am so excited to start doing everything on my own now! They told me that I will be doing static line next. What exactly do you do? _________________________________________ "The best things in life are DANGEROUS!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #2 July 24, 2006 you get out the plane and hold a nice arch. Anything more instructional then that will be covered in the S/L jump course, which you will take. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #3 July 24, 2006 Come next door and do AFF. You might not like static line since there's no freefall...but Wright Brothers doesn't offer AFF...so come to Eugene Skydivers! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #4 July 24, 2006 QuoteCome next door and do AFF. You might not like static line since there's no freefall...but Wright Brothers doesn't offer AFF...so come to Eugene Skydivers! :) Or you might not like AFF as generally it costs more, less focus on canopy control, and you end up having to meet the same requirements to get your class A. But whatever you do, have fun and be safe! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #5 July 25, 2006 Quote Or you might not like AFF as generally it costs more, less focus on canopy control, and you end up having to meet the same requirements to get your class A. Overall, here, they cost about the same. Your just spending more at once to get thru AFF and off student status. S/L costs the same but is drawn out. Less focus on canopy control? They're the same. You have to land a parachute with both. Period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 July 25, 2006 QuoteYou might not like static line since there's no freefall Are you sure about this statement? Maybe you went through a different S/L course then most others.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #7 July 25, 2006 QuoteAre you sure about this statement? Maybe you went through a different S/L course then most others. I know eventually you gain delays...but compared to AFF where you start right out with full altitude... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #8 July 25, 2006 The time between leaving the step and having an open canopy is called freefall. No matter how long it is. Really. There are pros and cons to AFF and S/L. But if what you really want is the most possible time in freefall (or what feels like it), then go to the wind tunnel. There are many pieces to a skydive; each of them is worthy of focus. Static line and AFF start out by focusing on different pieces, that's all. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #9 July 25, 2006 Quotethen go to the wind tunnel ...but that's not freefall Either way it's up to her or whoever is deciding. Which she has expressed to me that AFF sounds more exciting. There was more than one reason I told her to come to ESD and do AFF. Heck, she could come to us and do S/L. It's safer over here and she knows what I'm talking about. But simply put, from what I've seen from alot of students, going from a tandem to S/L is not that appealing. Even first time students that come to do S/L and realize the lower altitudes, choose a tandem instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #10 July 25, 2006 QuoteIt's safer over here and she knows what I'm talking about. Thats a bold statement to throw out without even trying to justify it.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #11 July 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt's safer over here and she knows what I'm talking about. Thats a bold statement to throw out without even trying to justify it. It sounds like the feud in Eugene is still going strong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #12 July 25, 2006 QuoteThats a bold statement to throw out without even trying to justify it. First of all what's your deal. You just pick and pick and pick. But anyway... I wouldn't say it's a "feud" just a safety issue... from gpflyer... (sorry gp but this guys got a bug up his butt and "requests" my justification.) " The first time we went, my brother said he could smell alcohol on his breath. I thought to myself, "GREAT! That makes me feel really good about this!" " " Hey! Thanks for the info. When I went there yesterday I was really nervous because Dave was acting kind of funny and you could see that he was shaking a lot. I don't know if it was just from the heat or what, but I didn't like it. " If you need me to justify myself any further just let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #13 July 26, 2006 Kim, Sparky, cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissyOutTheBox 0 #15 July 28, 2006 I agree s/l lets you gain more canopy control... I don't care what anyone says..... I shoud know I have 11 jumps s/l even though I just did my 5 second delay at least I have made the dz everytime but 2 (my first 2). I am just getting into the freefall adventure but my instructors are great and I like the extra time to learn canopy control an landings than I will worry about freefall... Have always wanted to be a social butterfly but now I have the wind beneath my feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i97426 0 #16 July 31, 2006 Missed your dropzone on your first two s/l jumps? Sounds like a real bad spot or poor/no ground-to-air communication. By the way, how big is the dz and from what altitude did you jump from adn did the inst. show you the dz from the airplane? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #17 July 31, 2006 Kim, Have you ever done a static-line jump yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teason 0 #18 July 31, 2006 I can't believe that an innocent question turned into we're safer than them. (who am I kidding, of course I can) Whether true or not, it turns people (especially new jumpers) off the sport. I know you think you're giving good advice but what you're really doing is shaking the OPs confidence in her instructors. Maybe we should think about the student and not our own selfish opinions. Brag about your facilities, airpower and instructors but the safety crack ... waaaaaay out of line! Giving a student more anxiety on their jump is a real shitty thing to do.I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #19 August 1, 2006 QuoteI can't believe that an innocent question turned into we're safer than them. (who am I kidding, of course I can) Whether true or not, it turns people (especially new jumpers) off the sport. I know you think you're giving good advice but what you're really doing is shaking the OPs confidence in her instructors. Maybe we should think about the student and not our own selfish opinions. Brag about your facilities, airpower and instructors but the safety crack ... waaaaaay out of line! Giving a student more anxiety on their jump is a real shitty thing to do. What he said... the "my DZ can beat up your DZ" stuff should really be kept to the Bonfire... ---- back on Topic ---- GPFlyer, "Back in the day", I went through a modified Static Line program that Bob Celaya used to run at Cal City. Your first 5 jumps where static line jumps and then the remaining 7 were linda like the old AFF program from Level 4 on. Anyway, on your first static line jump, you'll get out of the airplane (the exit will varry depending on what kind of aircraft they use), arch and the static line will "pull" the main for you... either direct bag or pilot chute assist... ala "military airborne" style. After that, you'll deal with any emergencies if they happen and pilot your canopy back to the landing area and land it with or without the help of a radio... Don't worry... They'll cover everything you need to know in training. Let us know how it goes. It'll be fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kimblair13 0 #20 August 1, 2006 QuoteI know you think you're giving good advice but what you're really doing is shaking the OPs confidence in her instructors. I don't think you read what I quoted from PM's she sent me. She had a lack of confidence in her instructor before I EVER came in to the picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 9 #21 August 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteI know you think you're giving good advice but what you're really doing is shaking the OPs confidence in her instructors. I don't think you read what I quoted from PM's she sent me. She had a lack of confidence in her instructor before I EVER came in to the picture. Just my 2 cents... then why don't you keep your discussions with her along those lines in the PMs and off the board? ... and, have you ever done a SL jump yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kimblair13 0 #22 August 1, 2006 Quotethen why don't you keep your discussions with her along those lines in the PMs and off the board? ... and, have you ever done a SL jump yourself? ...because sparky wanted my justification yes, 1. my very first jump. I wasn't that thrilled with it...so then did tandems and on to AFF. Yes mister board/pm police...I will keep pm chat in the pm's and board chat on the board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 9 #23 August 1, 2006 Quote Yes mister board/pm police... ha ha... sticks and stones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gpflyer 0 #24 August 1, 2006 Okay, Okay children!!!!!!! I'm sorry I ever posted this in the first place. I wasn't aware of all of the negativity in the forums. I just wanted some insight. And by the way, I was a little worried myself of my DZ before I even signed up on here. All of the info given to me was by my request. So, thank you eveyone who gave good advice, and will eveyone else please CHILL OUT! Only when we are no longer afraid do we begin to live. Dorothy Thompson _________________________________________ "The best things in life are DANGEROUS!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kimblair13 0 #25 August 1, 2006 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Kimblair13 0 #20 August 1, 2006 QuoteI know you think you're giving good advice but what you're really doing is shaking the OPs confidence in her instructors. I don't think you read what I quoted from PM's she sent me. She had a lack of confidence in her instructor before I EVER came in to the picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #21 August 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteI know you think you're giving good advice but what you're really doing is shaking the OPs confidence in her instructors. I don't think you read what I quoted from PM's she sent me. She had a lack of confidence in her instructor before I EVER came in to the picture. Just my 2 cents... then why don't you keep your discussions with her along those lines in the PMs and off the board? ... and, have you ever done a SL jump yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #22 August 1, 2006 Quotethen why don't you keep your discussions with her along those lines in the PMs and off the board? ... and, have you ever done a SL jump yourself? ...because sparky wanted my justification yes, 1. my very first jump. I wasn't that thrilled with it...so then did tandems and on to AFF. Yes mister board/pm police...I will keep pm chat in the pm's and board chat on the board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #23 August 1, 2006 Quote Yes mister board/pm police... ha ha... sticks and stones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gpflyer 0 #24 August 1, 2006 Okay, Okay children!!!!!!! I'm sorry I ever posted this in the first place. I wasn't aware of all of the negativity in the forums. I just wanted some insight. And by the way, I was a little worried myself of my DZ before I even signed up on here. All of the info given to me was by my request. So, thank you eveyone who gave good advice, and will eveyone else please CHILL OUT! Only when we are no longer afraid do we begin to live. Dorothy Thompson _________________________________________ "The best things in life are DANGEROUS!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites