lawrocket 3 #26 July 30, 2013 In conclusion, the recent pause in global surface temperature rise does not invalidate climate models or their estimates of climate sensitivity. It does however raise some important questions about how well we understand and observe the energy budget of the climate system So contrary to the statements for the last decade, the science isn't settled? And the position now is, "We always thought it was impossible for the heat to have mixed in the ocean at 1000 foot depths. But since it isn't turning out as we predicted, we decided to put in assumptions without supporting data, and if we plug in some numbers then it works." I am uncomfortable with this kind of thing. Kallend - ever notice that "the missing heat is in the ocean" is only a couple months old? (Unless you are Roy Spencer (denier) who has been saying for years to look there). There isn't data to support it. It's a guess. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #27 July 30, 2013 lawrocketIn conclusion, the recent pause in global surface temperature rise does not invalidate climate models or their estimates of climate sensitivity. It does however raise some important questions about how well we understand and observe the energy budget of the climate system So contrary to the statements for the last decade, the science isn't settled? And the position now is, "We always thought it was impossible for the heat to have mixed in the ocean at 1000 foot depths. But since it isn't turning out as we predicted, we decided to put in assumptions without supporting data, and if we plug in some numbers then it works." I am uncomfortable with this kind of thing. Kallend - ever notice that "the missing heat is in the ocean" is only a couple months old? (Unless you are Roy Spencer (denier) who has been saying for years to look there). There isn't data to support it. It's a guess. Nice way to misrepresent the articles.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites