McCain (GOP) supports Muslim Extremists

[mpohl 1]

Muslim Brotherhood and GOP, United as One. Perfect!

Who in the fucking US elects people like McCain? Democracy does not work. Because eventually we end up with the dumbest denominator...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/world/africa/egypt-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

McCain visits Egypt, calls ouster of President Morsy a 'coup'

By Reza Sayah and Michael Martinez, CNN

[billvon 2,998]

Heck, the entire US government supported Muslim extremists for ten years back in 1979. The enemy of our enemy and all that.

[quade 4]

Seriously. Like, who gave Usama bin Ladin his first stinger missile?

Probably some draft dodging, House Un-America Activities Committee naming, Hollywood union boss, pretty-boy actor.

Pish . . . why do we even let those types talk?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-analysis-from-ronald-reagan-and-the-soviet-afghan-war-to-george-w-bush-and-september-11-2001/20958

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[kelpdiver 2]

mpohl

Muslim Brotherhood and GOP, United as One. Perfect!

Who in the fucking US elects people like McCain? Democracy does not work. Because eventually we end up with the dumbest denominator...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/world/africa/egypt-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

McCain visits Egypt, calls ouster of President Morsy a 'coup'

By Reza Sayah and Michael Martinez, CNN

Uh, it absolutely was a coup. Who's the idiot here?

McCain went batshit crazy years ago, and he's certainly trying to score GOP points here, but there's no question that the military ousted a democratically elected leader and we have laws that prohibit funding military juntas with any further aid.

I'm sure you have some sort of point here....yes?

[Kennedy 0]

mpohl

Muslim Brotherhood and GOP, United as One. Perfect!

Who in the fucking US elects people like McCain? Democracy does not work. Because eventually we end up with the dumbest denominator...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/world/africa/egypt-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

McCain visits Egypt, calls ouster of President Morsy a 'coup'

By Reza Sayah and Michael Martinez, CNN

First, under the text box, there are seven buttons. The right most button says "url". Click it, paste the url, then click it again. If you don't want people thinking you're just a bot with angry programing, try using it. It looks like so:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/world/africa/egypt-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Second, it was a coup, short for coup d'etat. Look it up. This is a text book example.

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[ibx 2]

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Second, it was a coup, short for coup d'etat. Look it up. This is a text book example.

As long as they are not CIA funded they are frowned upon...

[rushmc 23]

mpohl

Muslim Brotherhood and GOP, United as One. Perfect!

Who in the fucking US elects people like McCain? Democracy does not work. Because eventually we end up with the dumbest denominator...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/world/africa/egypt-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

McCain visits Egypt, calls ouster of President Morsy a 'coup'

By Reza Sayah and Michael Martinez, CNN

Actually, saying McCain is part of the GOP is the craziest part of this post

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[okalb 104]

rushmc

Actually, saying McCain is part of the GOP is the craziest part of this post

Funny because I am pretty sure that not even a year ago the GOP decided he was the best that they had to offer for the POTUS job. Anyway, he is still the same guy he always was when he proudly represented the GOP. The problem is that the GOP was hijacked by extremists like yourself and now he is left standing in the middle looking like a crazy person. He didn't move, the GOP did.

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[rushmc 23]

okalb

***Actually, saying McCain is part of the GOP is the craziest part of this post

Funny because I am pretty sure that not even a year ago the GOP decided he was the best that they had to offer for the POTUS job. Anyway, he is still the same guy he always was when he proudly represented the GOP. The problem is that the GOP was hijacked by extremists like yourself and now he is left standing in the middle looking like a crazy person. He didn't move, the GOP did.

Yes, the GOP has moved. It, along with McCain have moved to the left

But now there is an even funier line in this thread. The one that calls me an extremeist

But I take this as verification that I am holding to good principals and standing firm against the extremeist that are those such as you

Thank you

You made my day and it's early

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Oh, nd BTW, McCain did not get elected BECAUSE he moved to the left

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[okalb 104]

rushmc

But now there is an even funier line in this thread. The one that calls me an extremeist

That was exactly the response that I was expecting. It's Amazing how quick people are to point a finger at others and then are completely able to see themselves for what they are. But you just keep telling yourself that. Anyone who reads your posts knows otherwise.

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[rushmc 23]

okalb

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But now there is an even funier line in this thread. The one that calls me an extremeist

That was exactly the response that I was expecting. It's Amazing how quick people are to point a finger at others and then are completely able to see themselves for what they are. But you just keep telling yourself that. Anyone who reads your posts knows otherwise.

Yep, you got it all figured out as you are the smartest one on the site



What else are you expecting?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Tell me a view I have that you consider extreme please

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[okalb 104]

rushmc

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But now there is an even funier line in this thread. The one that calls me an extremeist

That was exactly the response that I was expecting. It's Amazing how quick people are to point a finger at others and then are completely able to see themselves for what they are. But you just keep telling yourself that. Anyone who reads your posts knows otherwise.

Yep, you got it all figured out as you are the smartest one on the site



What else are you expecting?

I am far from the smartest person on the site, but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to read your posts and see where you stand.

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[rushmc 23]

okalb

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But now there is an even funier line in this thread. The one that calls me an extremeist

That was exactly the response that I was expecting. It's Amazing how quick people are to point a finger at others and then are completely able to see themselves for what they are. But you just keep telling yourself that. Anyone who reads your posts knows otherwise.

Yep, you got it all figured out as you are the smartest one on the site



What else are you expecting?

I am far from the smartest person on the site, but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to read your posts and see where you stand.

OK
I will ask again

What specific view, that you think I have, demonstrates I am a right wing extremeist?

I am only aksing for one right now
Got more? I am really intersted as to the views you think I have that are extremem to the right?

I will ask that of anyone here

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Darius11 12]

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Second, it was a coup, short for coup d'etat. Look it up. This is a text book example.

As long as they are not CIA funded they are frowned upon...

aint that the truth.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

kelpdiver

Uh, it absolutely was a coup. Who's the idiot here?

McCain went batshit crazy years ago, and he's certainly trying to score GOP points here, but there's no question that the military ousted a democratically elected leader and we have laws that prohibit funding military juntas with any further aid.

I'm sure you have some sort of point here....yes?

Actually, we have laws that prohibit funding to governments that the State Department determines gained power through a coup.

That "determines" part is critical because, in the ultimate political "do-si-do", they decided that if the State Department doesn't make any determination about whether it was a coup or not in Egypt (it was, IMO) then they haven't determined that it was, and funding can continue.

Really.

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“The law does not require us to make a formal determination as to whether a coup took place, and it is not in our national interest to make such a determination.”

“We will not say it was a coup, we will not say it was not a coup, we will just not say,” the official said.

Not the best source, but it has the quotes I was looking for and it was the best I could find fast.

http://www.szaboservices.com/show/state-department-and-white-house-to-continue-illegally-funding-egypt-because-they-decided-it-is-legal-even-though-it-isnt-

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[rehmwa 2]

rushmc

I am really intersted as to the views you think I have that are extremem to the right?

I will ask that of anyone here

from what I can tell,

you think people should be able to own property
the government should stay out of our personal lives
people should pay their own way

oh - and I'm pretty sure you think the bill of rights is a good thing



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[rushmc 23]

rehmwa

*** I am really intersted as to the views you think I have that are extremem to the right?

I will ask that of anyone here

from what I can tell,

you think people should be able to own property
the government should stay out of our personal lives
people should pay their own way

oh - and I'm pretty sure you think the bill of rights is a good thing



wacky nut job

Wow

Seeing it spelled out makes me see how extreme I really am

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

I don't think you're an extremist.

What are your views on religion in government? I don't think you've talked about it much. One of the things that marks a right wing extremist to me is that they want the government to be explicitly run on Christian principles. This includes Christian prayer in public schools, Christian based laws, and rejection of laws that could be in conflict with Christian concepts (gay marriage comes to mind).

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

I don't think you're an extremist.

What are your views on religion in government? I don't think you've talked about it much. One of the things that marks a right wing extremist to me is that they want the government to be explicitly run on Christian principles. This includes Christian prayer in public schools, Christian based laws, and rejection of laws that could be in conflict with Christian concepts (gay marriage comes to mind).

It is an inarguable point that this country was founded on jewdeo- christian principals. There principals set a foundation under which this country grew. That said, I don’t think that laws need to be Christian based but, most fair law would align to some degree to these principals.

I don’t think the gay marriage debate falls in this however. This, to me, is a manufactured issue to create rights. Marriage IS a religious union (for lack of a better explanation at this time) Pushing gay marriage is an attempt to attack religion. But, attacking the Christian religion is in vogue at this time and is acceptable. Even though today, the Christian religion as practiced for the most part in the US is one of the least radial out there. All this said, I am not against gay couples getting the same legal recognition as those who are married. It is just not marriage in my view.

I see abortion in this same light. I am pro-choice but I chose life. Abortion is argued at a women’s right level. I don’t see it that way. It is another manufactured angle to try and dissolve people from being responsible for their own actions. At this point in the debate, I would be happy if no federal money goes to support abortion. And I don’t think it should be completely outlawed. But it should (IMO) be severely restricted. In the end society has to decide the principals it will live under. THAT is the debate we should be having.

I also think the separation of church and state as spelled out in the Constitution has been bastardized. It is not being enforced as intended. It was intended that the state will not create or identify one religion for its citizenry. This does not mean a county or state should not recognize a religious principal to guide it. And THEN, if that guidance goes too far, then the courts step in to make sure said religion does not infringe on any rights. (an example would by how Sharia treats women, and this is not intended as an attack on Muslims) Today, it is pushed that there should be no religion in government at all. This is not for the Fed or radical anti-Christian groups to decide. But these groups have used the courts to push their agenda and have so far been successful, to the countries detriment IMO.

Again, all this said, government should not push a religion

I know that many will see this as radical. I don’t see it that way but, I hope it helps some (and you) understand where I am coming from specific to your question

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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It is an inarguable point that this country was founded on jewdeo- christian principals.

It's very arguable. Multiple books have been written arguing both sides of that statement.

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I don’t think the gay marriage debate falls in this however. This, to me, is a manufactured issue to create rights. Marriage IS a religious union (for lack of a better explanation at this time) Pushing gay marriage is an attempt to attack religion. But, attacking the Christian religion is in vogue at this time and is acceptable. Even though today, the Christian religion as practiced for the most part in the US is one of the least radial out there. All this said, I am not against gay couples getting the same legal recognition as those who are married. It is just not marriage in my view.

I see abortion in this same light. I am pro-choice but I chose life. Abortion is argued at a women’s right level. I don’t see it that way. It is another manufactured angle to try and dissolve people from being responsible for their own actions. At this point in the debate, I would be happy if no federal money goes to support abortion. And I don’t think it should be completely outlawed. But it should (IMO) be severely restricted. In the end society has to decide the principals it will live under. THAT is the debate we should be having.

I also think the separation of church and state as spelled out in the Constitution has been bastardized. It is not being enforced as intended. It was intended that the state will not create or identify one religion for its citizenry. This does not mean a county or state should not recognize a religious principal to guide it. And THEN, if that guidance goes too far, then the courts step in to make sure said religion does not infringe on any rights. (an example would by how Sharia treats women, and this is not intended as an attack on Muslims) Today, it is pushed that there should be no religion in government at all. This is not for the Fed or radical anti-Christian groups to decide. But these groups have used the courts to push their agenda and have so far been successful, to the countries detriment IMO.

Now you're starting to get into extemist territory.

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Again, all this said, government should not push a religion

With all due respect, your statements above seem to contradict this.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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It is an inarguable point that this country was founded on jewdeo- christian principals.

It's very arguable. Multiple books have been written arguing both sides of that statement.

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I don’t think the gay marriage debate falls in this however. This, to me, is a manufactured issue to create rights. Marriage IS a religious union (for lack of a better explanation at this time) Pushing gay marriage is an attempt to attack religion. But, attacking the Christian religion is in vogue at this time and is acceptable. Even though today, the Christian religion as practiced for the most part in the US is one of the least radial out there. All this said, I am not against gay couples getting the same legal recognition as those who are married. It is just not marriage in my view.

I see abortion in this same light. I am pro-choice but I chose life. Abortion is argued at a women’s right level. I don’t see it that way. It is another manufactured angle to try and dissolve people from being responsible for their own actions. At this point in the debate, I would be happy if no federal money goes to support abortion. And I don’t think it should be completely outlawed. But it should (IMO) be severely restricted. In the end society has to decide the principals it will live under. THAT is the debate we should be having.

I also think the separation of church and state as spelled out in the Constitution has been bastardized. It is not being enforced as intended. It was intended that the state will not create or identify one religion for its citizenry. This does not mean a county or state should not recognize a religious principal to guide it. And THEN, if that guidance goes too far, then the courts step in to make sure said religion does not infringe on any rights. (an example would by how Sharia treats women, and this is not intended as an attack on Muslims) Today, it is pushed that there should be no religion in government at all. This is not for the Fed or radical anti-Christian groups to decide. But these groups have used the courts to push their agenda and have so far been successful, to the countries detriment IMO.

Now you're starting to get into extemist territory.

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Again, all this said, government should not push a religion

With all due respect, your statements above seem to contradict this.

Not extreme or contradictory (IMO )unless ome is so far the other direction

and many here have moved that far

One thing is for sure
I do not push my opinions as hard as those with whom you agree with do
and they show much less tollerance

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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Not extreme or contradictory (IMO )unless ome is so far the other direction

It is contradictory to say that laws should be based on Christian teachings, and then say that government shouldn't push a religion.

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I do not push my opinions as hard as those with whom you agree with do

Hey, you asked for opinions on your views. I'm just obliging you.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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Not extreme or contradictory (IMO )unless ome is so far the other direction

It is contradictory to say that laws should be based on Christian teachings, and then say that government shouldn't push a religion.I did not say christian teachings. I did say standards based on christiam morality. Maybe splitting hairs but I think there is a difference

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I do not push my opinions as hard as those with whom you agree with do

Hey, you asked for opinions on your views. I'm just obliging you.

Yes I did
thank you
But it is not wrong of me to correct errors

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln