propblast 0 #76 August 11, 2013 Bignugget*** I personally think anything where someone maims another carelessly or with malice is bad. It just appears to me that a lot of folks are willing to accept that when it is a car/ parachute and chalk it up to individual actions, where as when a incident with a firearm happens, they are not. They would rather blame the gun. No one is 'blaming the gun'. That is ridiculous. Reasonable people can understand that with 0 guns on the streets, the likelihood of being killed by a gun is much smaller than when there are 280 MILLION guns around. While banning all cars from the roads would have an ENORMOUS impact on the way the country operates day to day. Removing ALL GUNS from the USA wouldn't, people would continue to live pretty much as normal. There will still be plenty of assholes who want to kill people, and they will have to find new, more creative, ways to do it. BTW, given your own statement that it won't stop criminals from killing a lot of people if they want. What is your reason for banning them? You have yet to give a valid one. Since by your own admission plenty of assholes will still kill folk.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #77 August 11, 2013 I don't need 1 of them, I need 1 million of them. Who doesn't?? Best - Richard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #78 August 11, 2013 Its there in my reply. Eliminate 280 million things used only to end life. Thats the reason why. Force murderers to get creative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #79 August 11, 2013 Sigh....That is not there only use.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #80 August 11, 2013 propblastSigh....That is not there only use. I am open to suggestions. What other uses does a gun have? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #81 August 11, 2013 Bignugget ***Sigh....That is not there only use. I am open to suggestions. What other uses does a gun have? Poppin' balloons. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #82 August 11, 2013 Bignugget***Sigh....That is not there only use. I am open to suggestions. What other uses does a gun have? Makin' a Mutha Fucka Dance, Son! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wEByIZn5qeU&t=71 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #83 August 11, 2013 You seriously should have done your homework (past threads) before posting... ...this thread is pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #84 August 11, 2013 Put THAT is your tag line! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #85 August 11, 2013 You've been waiting a long time to say that, haven't you? lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #86 August 11, 2013 As many here are probably aware I think pretty highly of myself and the posts I make here. So instead of replying to this thread I'm just going to do this... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4424934;#4424934 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4429231;#4429231 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4482149;#4482149 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4473410;#4473410[/url [url]http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4421455;#4421455 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4422018;#4422018 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4416267;#4416267 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #87 August 11, 2013 HAHAHAHA! Nah... it was just perfect; mostly since you were the last poster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #88 August 11, 2013 champuAs many here are probably aware I think pretty highly of myself and the posts I make here. So instead of replying to this thread I'm just going to do this... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4424934;#4424934 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4429231;#4429231 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4482149;#4482149 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4473410;#4473410[/url [url]http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4421455;#4421455 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4422018;#4422018 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4416267;#4416267 "And yes, while I'm talking olive branches, it would go a long way if firearm rights advocates would acknowledge that guns are purpose-built as weapons. They are designed to break inanimate objects and turn animate objects into inanimate objects" So you agree with me. Legit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #89 August 11, 2013 Emergency preparedness Commerce and employment Historical preservation and study Obtaining food by hunting Olympic competition Collecting Sporting pursuits Target practice Recreational shootingPropblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #90 August 11, 2013 propblastEmergency preparedness Commerce and employment Historical preservation and study Obtaining food by hunting Olympic competition Collecting Sporting pursuits Target practice Recreational shooting Emergency preparedness (Prepare to kill people or animals) Commerce and employment (Yep, sold as a means to kill things) Historical preservation and study (I guess?, not really what they were intended for I don't think.) Obtaining food by hunting (Yep, by killing bambi) Collecting (sorta falls under preservation and study) (All these to make you more proficient at killing something with a gun) Olympic competition Sporting pursuits Target practice Recreational shooting The gun is designed to kill shit, thats its purpose. The joint is designed to relax you and make you eat Cheetos. When I am world dictator general, first order of business is collecting 280 million guns, and distributing 280 million joints (and buy the cheeto factory). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #91 August 11, 2013 lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #92 August 11, 2013 Bignugget***Emergency preparedness Commerce and employment Historical preservation and study Obtaining food by hunting Olympic competition Collecting Sporting pursuits Target practice Recreational shooting Emergency preparedness (Prepare to kill people or animals) Commerce and employment (Yep, sold as a means to kill things) Historical preservation and study (I guess?, not really what they were intended for I don't think.) Obtaining food by hunting (Yep, by killing bambi) Collecting (sorta falls under preservation and study) (All these to make you more proficient at killing something with a gun) Olympic competition Sporting pursuits Target practice Recreational shooting The gun is designed to kill shit, thats its purpose. The joint is designed to relax you and make you eat Cheetos. When I am world dictator general, first order of business is collecting 280 million guns, and distributing 280 million joints (and buy the cheeto factory). You are making a completely empty and worthless point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #93 August 11, 2013 about the Cheetos? Ban guns because they are designed/built/meant to kill things. Killing things is bad, mom said it and I believe it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #94 August 11, 2013 BignuggetReplying to me is as big a waste of time as you imagined. Moreso in fact. Aye, good day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #95 August 11, 2013 BignuggetIts there in my reply. Eliminate 280 million things used only to end life. Thats the reason why. Force murderers to get creative. Apparently you've never heard of the concept of deterrence. Guns are used to stop violent crime far more often than they are used to commit violent crime. Add to that the fact that they can be a ton of fun and are used legally and without incident across that nation every day. If you were dictator for a day, you'd probably be deposed that first day. Even if you weren't, even if you managed to take away every gun in the country, that would not do anything good. First, guns are not hard to make. Second, guns are a great equalizer. A friend of mine lives in a wheelchair. He's been mugged and assaulted. He picked up a pistol and a concealed carry permit. So you'd take his gun from him. How would you suggest he defend himself from a larger, more physically fit person who intends to harm him? Third, even if you don't care that guns are excellent self defense tools for physically less capable people, how would you ensure your draconian diktats are followed? Would you want to live in a complete police state? I prefer dangerous liberty to safe oppression. You seem to prefer to have a "dictator general" who tells everyone how to live.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #96 August 11, 2013 champu***Replying to me is as big a waste of time as you imagined. Moreso in fact. Aye, good day. Ahh, you distilled it down! We thank you.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #97 August 11, 2013 Bignuggetabout the Cheetos? Ban guns because they are designed/built/meant to kill things. Killing things is bad, mom said it and I believe it. Momma said, "alligators are angry cause they got all those teeth and no tooth brush." Psst...... Human Beings, are designed/built/meant to kill things too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #98 August 11, 2013 Bignugget Ban guns because they are designed/built/meant to kill things. Killing things is bad, mom said it and I believe it. Your mother was naive and so are you. Banning guns wouldn't stop murderers, and would remove the best tool for stopping murderers.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #99 August 11, 2013 NatalyNunchucks. No, nunchucks are not banned through out the US. I wasn't even aware that certain cities banned carrying them, much less states. And honestly, WHY? Oh, was it maybe an emotional response to the kung fu craze of the 1970? Has that ban made anyone safer or reduced the epidemic of nunchucku violence? Quote- I didn't pick th AR-15, Piers Morgan did. Please actually read my post before making silly comments on it. As to why Piers Morgan picked that particular weapon, well, something to do with its use in a number of recent mass murders. And like I said, "Sandy Hooks" aren't the problem, "Chicagos" are. At least, they are if one can get past the emotional response to an actual problem. Quote- Why are people explaining guns and "semi-automatic" and what is and isn't a "scary" weapon to me?? Stop making dumb assumptions - I don't need these thing explained, thank you very much. I have no idea what you know and what you don't, and there are others that might need that information. There's a reason gun control proponents said what they said and started where they started. Quote- As for the argument that "needs" have nothing to do with it... I must disagree... Some things are NECESSARY evils. You can't take them away because people NEED them. The bottom line here is not whether or not they are necessary, but "please come up with a good argument against banning/restricting these types of weapons." (Given they are not at all necessary for civilians.) That's not the way a free society works. You don't get to say everything should be banned unless someone gives you a good reason to ban it. You need to provide a good reason why something should be banned. Side note: if you want to ban dangerous things, or things that lead to dangerous situations, why aren't you campaigned to reinstate prohibition? Quote- Finally: rights... These are not rights. They are laws/privileges. And they can be taken away. Nobody can take away a right. Please don't bring up semantics... The fact is that your laws currently prohibit things that used to be rights - like owning a slave... And thank goodness this is no longer the case. Your "right" to bare arms can also be taken away if too many people abuse it. Your right to free speech can be taken away. Your right to move freely can be taken away. Your right to publish can be taken away. Your right to keep and bear arms can be taken away. Your rights against search and seizure can be taken away. All of these are done on an individual basis by a court. None of them can be to broad swaths of people, even if a law is passed. Unfortunately, some politicians wants to legislate certain rights out of existence because they don't like those rights. I suppose they don't see how dangerous that could be, or that others could sue the same tactic to legislate rights they like out of existence. The only want to legally remove these rights from everyone one is a constitutional amendment. QuoteWhoever came up with the statistic of 20-ish ppl killed per year by assault riffles... Somehow that doesn't sound right... Please post where you found this statistic. Like somebody said, only 323 people were killed by rifles int he last year for which numbers are available. That's fewer than knives, fewer than personal weapons, and fewer than blunt objects. And of that 323, not all of them were black rifles. Question for you: how do you define "assault weapon"?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #100 August 11, 2013 Bignugget***Emergency preparedness Commerce and employment Historical preservation and study Obtaining food by hunting Olympic competition Collecting Sporting pursuits Target practice Recreational shooting Emergency preparedness (Prepare to kill people or animals) Commerce and employment (Yep, sold as a means to kill things) Historical preservation and study (I guess?, not really what they were intended for I don't think.) Obtaining food by hunting (Yep, by killing bambi) Collecting (sorta falls under preservation and study) (All these to make you more proficient at killing something with a gun) Olympic competition Sporting pursuits Target practice Recreational shooting The gun is designed to kill shit, thats its purpose. The joint is designed to relax you and make you eat Cheetos. When I am world dictator general, first order of business is collecting 280 million guns, and distributing 280 million joints (and buy the cheeto factory). Congrats you have proven you can't make a rational argument or stick with one.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
