Freedom from Religion

[funjumper101 15]

This judge needs to be removed from the bench.

What would she say to "Jesus Hernandez", a first generation citizen of Mexican ancestry, if he was to come before her? Would she be fair and apply the law equally to Jesus as she would to the third generation John Smith, of English and Scottish ancestry? The odds are against it.

Freedom OF religion also means freedom FROM religion.
Christianity is no better or worse than any other religion.

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-changing-babys-name-messiah-draws-reaction-224909486.htm

One of Cheech and Chong's best lines is from one of their early comedy albums. That line is "I used to be all messed up on drugs, now I am all messed up on the Lord", in reference to the jesus freaks of the late seventies.

[Kennedy 0]

(A) repost
(B) you're correct, she's a friggin idjit and doesn't deserve the black robes and gavel.
(C) your title is garbage. There is not a right not to be offended. Looking for one infringes on others rights to act in noncriminal manners and unreasonably limits free speech.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

This has already been discussed. IMO the Judge is wrong. He's likely a do-gooder Liberal who thinks he has a right to stick his nose in people business.

OTOH, anyone giving their kid a name like Messiah, Allah, Jesus, Odin, Zeus, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Hermes, Thor etc. has condemned their kid to ridicule from other kids.

[lawrocket 3]

Of course, you have two parents who actually brought it to the court to make the decision.

Guess who are also incredible assholes here. This kid is doomed.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[funjumper101 15]

Kennedy

(A) repost
(B) you're correct, she's a friggin idjit and doesn't deserve the black robes and gavel.
(C) your title is garbage. There is not a right not to be offended. Looking for one infringes on others rights to act in noncriminal manners and unreasonably limits free speech.

The title is spot on. What logic leads you to believe that I think that I have a right not to be offended?

I put up with offensive bullshit every time I drive. Most people can't drive worth a shit. Zero awareness of anything beyond 50 feet ahead of them.
I put up with offensive bullshit every time I tune in to the local AM radio station for up to date traffic reports. The drug addled gasbag or nutter beck is on the air.
I am offended by the nitwits that are led to believe things that are patently ridiculous, by a corporate owned media that came to pass after Saint Ronnie blew up restrictions on media ownership.
As a kid, I put up with offensive christian assholes in my neighborhood that tried to scare me by telling their fables about God, the Devil, and Hell.

Religion is a personal, private matter. I am totally cool with those who want to lead their lives by whatever book of fables they choose, right up to where they try to push their beliefs onto other people. The USA is a SECULAR nation, not a christian, moslem, or jewish nation.

Keep your religions out of my life. I do not want or need it.

[lawrocket 3]

You are really intolerant.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[seedy 0]

By your logic, your posts need to be removed. I realize the constitution gives you the right to free speech but it must also give me the right from your free speech.

I intend to live forever -- so far, so good.

[billvon 3,067]

>OTOH, anyone giving their kid a name like Messiah, Allah, Jesus, Odin, Zeus,
>Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Hermes, Thor etc. has condemned their kid to ridicule
>from other kids.

Had a housemate once who named her son "pussi" when he was born in Nairobi. It meant "little prince" and was apparently a common name there. I explained to her what it meant in the US and she said "I'll explain to the other kids what it means where he comes from."

Wished her luck - but also felt bad for the kid.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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I put up with offensive bullshit every time I drive. Most people can't drive worth a shit. Zero awareness of anything beyond 50 feet ahead of them.

I agree that far too many drivers are not looking far enough in front of them, but this isn't offensive. This is just their lack of knowledge and/or their complacency while behind the wheel. The best thing to do is make sure you are looking ahead (and behind) and be prepared to react to anything you see ahead of time. But going on a rant on the DorkZone isn't going to make one difference.

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Keep your religions out of my life. I do not want or need it.

I am not religious either, but really is this something to get your panties in a wad about. When someone says "I want to thank Jesus Christ for [insert whatever it is they are thankful for]", do you go ballistic, or do you just let it slide. I just let it slide.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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billvon

>OTOH, anyone giving their kid a name like Messiah, Allah, Jesus, Odin, Zeus,
>Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Hermes, Thor etc. has condemned their kid to ridicule
>from other kids.

Had a housemate once who named her son "pussi" when he was born in Nairobi. It meant "little prince" and was apparently a common name there. I explained to her what it meant in the US and she said "I'll explain to the other kids what it means where he comes from."

Wished her luck - but also felt bad for the kid.

Yeah. I'm glad my parents didn't get creative. School was tough enough without being tagged with a weird name

[millertimeunc 0]

Well the judge has a point, because "he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!!!"

The best things in life are dangerous.

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"My name is Sue! How do you do? Now you gonna die!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOHPuY88Ry4

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[funjumper101 15]

CanuckInUSA

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I put up with offensive bullshit every time I drive. Most people can't drive worth a shit. Zero awareness of anything beyond 50 feet ahead of them.

I agree that far too many drivers are not looking far enough in front of them, but this isn't offensive. This is just their lack of knowledge and/or their complacency while behind the wheel. The best thing to do is make sure you are looking ahead (and behind) and be prepared to react to anything you see ahead of time. But going on a rant on the DorkZone isn't going to make one difference.

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Keep your religions out of my life. I do not want or need it.

I am not religious either, but really is this something to get your panties in a wad about. When someone says "I want to thank Jesus Christ for [insert whatever it is they are thankful for]", do you go ballistic, or do you just let it slide. I just let it slide.

"Offended" is what I feel when nitwits that haven't had a driving test in 30 years, drive like they are the only car on the road, and put me at risk due to their incompetence. You may not feel that way when confronted with the nitwits. I am. I drive about 25-35k per year, mostly as part of my job.

Being offended is something that is individual. YMMV

My reaction to public expressions of religious belief depends on context. When Jehovah's Witless folks show up, I tell them I am not interested and ask them to leave, closing the door in their face. If they come back, I ask them to leave, ask to be put on their "do not disturb" list, and close the door in their face. As far as annoying religious groups go the JWs are pretty good about leaving you alone if you make it clear that you aren't interested. The folks that add the "god bless" stuff to their postings on Craigslist I will not do business with, even if they have an item I am interested in. Retail stores that display overt religious material in their retail area don't sell any goods to me. I walk out. Same with the places that play 'tard radio with nutter beck and the drugster. I walk out and don't look back. Public speakers thanking God for whatever it is they are talking about may get a chuckle, but as long as they don't keep going on and on about how awesome the lord is and how they owe everything to him, etc, etc, I'll let it go.

Pharmacists have tried to get the ability to refuse to fill prescriptions, based on religious beliefs. Organized religion is trying to have their SECULAR businesses exempted from ACA requirements due to religious beliefs. Federally paid abortion was stopped due to religious beliefs. All of these things offend me at the deepest level. This is superstitious nonsense that affects non-religious citizens. Any church exemptions to applicable secular law needs to be extremely limited, if permitted at all. The church building where the services are held, and the organization to administer those services MAY be exempted if a case can be made. Other entities like hospitals and homeless shelters, not a chance.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

You really are an intolerant person Jean.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[jakee 1,562]

Gravitymaster

This has already been discussed. IMO the Judge is wrong. He's likely a do-gooder Liberal who thinks he has a right to stick his nose in people business.

"The word messiah is a title, and it's a title has only been earned by one person, and that one person is Jesus Christ," she told WBIR-TV in an interview from her office, which had a ceramic figurine of Joseph and Mary with baby Jesus on her desk. A copy of the Ten Commandments hung on the wall.

Care to try again?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Kennedy 0]

What you want is the right to limit someone else's freedom of speech, because it annoys you. Suck it up, buttercup. You don't get to limit other's rights based on your feelings. If you don't want people who disagree with you being allowed to silence you, then you don't get to do it to them.

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[funjumper101 15]

lawrocket

You are really intolerant.

I absolutely am intolerant, especially against those that try to force religious crap on the non-religious, and limit the freedom of my sisters, my nieces, and grand nieces to make their own decisions about their bodies.

It comes from growing up in an Irish/Italian Catholic neighborhood, while not being indoctrinated into ANY religion by my parents. The "Christians" were real good at tormenting the "others" who did not go to church, had parents who both had college degrees, and took their children to the big city every weekend for book shopping and cultural events. These people were "the pillars of the community", in theory. In practice, they were and are narrow minded sheeple that are all messed up on the lord. The dirtbags ran an African American family out of the neighborhood via cross burning and vandalism. I moved out when I was 17.

A dirtbag from the neighborhood tried to pick a fight with me 20 years later when I was at a package store in my home town. He must have forgotten what I did to the jocks that attacked me. I stopped to buy beer on the way to visit a friend in another town. I was tanned, fit, and happy, on a visit from California. I didn't recognize the fat dirtbag as Wesley, at first. Then he started in on the christian bullshit, asking if I had ever taken Jesus into my heart, etc etc. I laughed, and said no, not at all. I told him I got a clue and moved to a civilized part of the world better known as Silicon Valley, so as to get far far away from people like him. If he hadn't started talking, I never would have recognized him, or said anything to him. The packy owner knew Wesley as a troublemaker and called the cops without my knowing it. Wesley followed me out the door, ready to rumble, and quickly shut up and tried to walk away when he saw the cops. The cops stopped him and me and asked what was going on. Once the situation was explained, Wesley was forced to apologize to me, and was let go as I did not want to press charges.

If the fat fuck had laid a finger on me, I was ready to go off and tear his eyeballs out with my teeth. There are NO RULES if you are attacked first. Biting chunks out of a bicep, kicking knees or 'nads, sticking your fingers or thumbs into the eye socket, chewing off the ears, or whatever else you can do is fair game if you are attacked first. When I was fifteen, a coordinated attack by three jocks that knew me from middle school days resulted in broken ribs and loss of eyeglasses, along with severe bruising and damage to my ACL. After I recovered, I ambushed each of the attackers over a few days, with a baseball bat. Each one got their knee blown out from under them from behind, followed by a brutal assault on the knee with the bat. So much for their athletic careers. Each one received permanent, crippling injury to their knees. I was not the only victim of their coordinated assaults. After I was done with them, they never assaulted anyone else. Imagine that. They didn't play sports anymore, either.

I was fortunate to have a group of good friends from my out of town school who provided a bulletproof alibi for the revenge attacks. No one in town ever fucked with me again. The pigs could not get me to crack and admit the attacks and my alibi stood up. The pigs beat on me as one of the ones I got was the son of a town selectman, and the cops thought I would cave. It didn't work, but sure gave me a lifelong disrespect for the LEO profession. The parents tried civil court, but didn't get far due to the bulletproof alibi, and the fact that my mom was a single parent at that point.

When it comes to the religious nitwits, you bet I am intolerant. I have had enough of that shit to last a lifetime.

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jakee

***This has already been discussed. IMO the Judge is wrong. He's likely a do-gooder Liberal who thinks he has a right to stick his nose in people business.

"The word messiah is a title, and it's a title has only been earned by one person, and that one person is Jesus Christ," she told WBIR-TV in an interview from her office, which had a ceramic figurine of Joseph and Mary with baby Jesus on her desk. A copy of the Ten Commandments hung on the wall.

Care to try again?

You really are hysterical. Seriously....that's your response?

[Channman 2]

funjumper101

***You are really intolerant.

I absolutely am intolerant, especially against those that try to force religious crap on the non-religious, and limit the freedom of my sisters, my nieces, and grand nieces to make their own decisions about their bodies.

It comes from growing up in an Irish/Italian Catholic neighborhood, while not being indoctrinated into ANY religion by my parents. The "Christians" were real good at tormenting the "others" who did not go to church, had parents who both had college degrees, and took their children to the big city every weekend for book shopping and cultural events. These people were "the pillars of the community", in theory. In practice, they were and are narrow minded sheeple that are all messed up on the lord. The dirtbags ran an African American family out of the neighborhood via cross burning and vandalism. I moved out when I was 17.

A dirtbag from the neighborhood tried to pick a fight with me 20 years later when I was at a package store in my home town. He must have forgotten what I did to the jocks that attacked me. I stopped to buy beer on the way to visit a friend in another town. I was tanned, fit, and happy, on a visit from California. I didn't recognize the fat dirtbag as Wesley, at first. Then he started in on the christian bullshit, asking if I had ever taken Jesus into my heart, etc etc. I laughed, and said no, not at all. I told him I got a clue and moved to a civilized part of the world better known as Silicon Valley, so as to get far far away from people like him. If he hadn't started talking, I never would have recognized him, or said anything to him. The packy owner knew Wesley as a troublemaker and called the cops without my knowing it. Wesley followed me out the door, ready to rumble, and quickly shut up and tried to walk away when he saw the cops. The cops stopped him and me and asked what was going on. Once the situation was explained, Wesley was forced to apologize to me, and was let go as I did not want to press charges.

If the fat fuck had laid a finger on me, I was ready to go off and tear his eyeballs out with my teeth. There are NO RULES if you are attacked first. Biting chunks out of a bicep, kicking knees or 'nads, sticking your fingers or thumbs into the eye socket, chewing off the ears, or whatever else you can do is fair game if you are attacked first. When I was fifteen, a coordinated attack by three jocks that knew me from middle school days resulted in broken ribs and loss of eyeglasses, along with severe bruising and damage to my ACL. After I recovered, I ambushed each of the attackers over a few days, with a baseball bat. Each one got their knee blown out from under them from behind, followed by a brutal assault on the knee with the bat. So much for their athletic careers. Each one received permanent, crippling injury to their knees. I was not the only victim of their coordinated assaults. After I was done with them, they never assaulted anyone else. Imagine that. They didn't play sports anymore, either.

I was fortunate to have a group of good friends from my out of town school who provided a bulletproof alibi for the revenge attacks. No one in town ever fucked with me again. The pigs could not get me to crack and admit the attacks and my alibi stood up. The pigs beat on me as one of the ones I got was the son of a town selectman, and the cops thought I would cave. It didn't work, but sure gave me a lifelong disrespect for the LEO profession. The parents tried civil court, but didn't get far due to the bulletproof alibi, and the fact that my mom was a single parent at that point.

When it comes to the religious nitwits, you bet I am intolerant. I have had enough of that shit to last a lifetime.

"WOW....I'll say it backwards, "WOW". You don't seem to be a FUN person to hang around. But JESUS loves you anyway

OK BILL, I deserve a serious warning...I personally BAN myself for the remainder of the week.

[jakee 1,562]

Gravitymaster

******This has already been discussed. IMO the Judge is wrong. He's likely a do-gooder Liberal who thinks he has a right to stick his nose in people business.

"The word messiah is a title, and it's a title has only been earned by one person, and that one person is Jesus Christ," she told WBIR-TV in an interview from her office, which had a ceramic figurine of Joseph and Mary with baby Jesus on her desk. A copy of the Ten Commandments hung on the wall.

Care to try again?

You really are hysterical. Seriously....that's your response?

I'm just going to leave that to speak for itself.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

*********This has already been discussed. IMO the Judge is wrong. He's likely a do-gooder Liberal who thinks he has a right to stick his nose in people business.

"The word messiah is a title, and it's a title has only been earned by one person, and that one person is Jesus Christ," she told WBIR-TV in an interview from her office, which had a ceramic figurine of Joseph and Mary with baby Jesus on her desk. A copy of the Ten Commandments hung on the wall.

Care to try again?

You really are hysterical. Seriously....that's your response?

I'm just going to leave that to speak for itself.

You should and it does.

[turtlespeed 226]

Gravitymaster

************This has already been discussed. IMO the Judge is wrong. He's likely a do-gooder Liberal who thinks he has a right to stick his nose in people business.

"The word messiah is a title, and it's a title has only been earned by one person, and that one person is Jesus Christ," she told WBIR-TV in an interview from her office, which had a ceramic figurine of Joseph and Mary with baby Jesus on her desk. A copy of the Ten Commandments hung on the wall.

Care to try again?

You really are hysterical. Seriously....that's your response?

I'm just going to leave that to speak for itself.

You should and it does.

Yes, yes it does.

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millertimeunc

Well the judge has a point, because "he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!!!"

that's what she should have said as her reasoning!! lol!