The shooting of the Aussie in OK---racial?

[normiss 801]

I don't think you understand the law like you want to.

[Bignugget 0]

How's that? It's not illegal in Florida to wear old ladies down is it?

[linebckr83 3]

Bignugget

Murderers go to jail if I am on the jury.

You know what would be ironic? What if someone breaks in your house in the middle of the night prepared to kill you (and your family if you have one). I wonder how your opinion of "murder" would change after that. Better have a steak knife handy on your end table since you don't believe in guns either.

People like you are impossible to argue with. You, like thousands of other people across the country, don't know shit about the actual case or what happened. You only know what was shown on tv and let me tell you, it was very misleading. You had a chance to actually watch the trial and hear/see the evidence for yourself. You chose not to and instead want to just talk shit without knowing anything. People like you are not uncommon...sadly. I would ask that you educate yourself on the actual events that occured but you've proven you have no desire. So continue making a fool of yourself, it's very entertaining.

"Are you coming to the party?
Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!"
Flying Hellfish #828
Dudist #52

[normiss 801]

You have a much different understanding of entertaining than I do.

[Bignugget 0]

linebckr83

***Murderers go to jail if I am on the jury.

You know what would be ironic? What if someone breaks in your house in the middle of the night prepared to kill you (and your family if you have one). I wonder how your opinion of "murder" would change after that. Better have a steak knife handy on your end table since you don't believe in guns either.

People like you are impossible to argue with. You, like thousands of other people across the country, don't know shit about the actual case or what happened. You only know what was shown on tv and let me tell you, it was very misleading. You had a chance to actually watch the trial and hear/see the evidence for yourself. You chose not to and instead want to just talk shit without knowing anything. People like you are not uncommon...sadly. I would ask that you educate yourself on the actual events that occured but you've proven you have no desire. So continue making a fool of yourself, it's very entertaining.


Please correct me if any of this is wrong:

1) Zimmerman originally spotted Martin at a point different than where the body of Martin was found.

2) Martin was killed after Zimmerman had already spoken to 911.

3) While on the phone with 911 Zimmerman was not fighting for his life in defense of an attacker.


If none of that is incorrect you can feel free to not respond.

That would be enough for me to vote to send his ass to prison.

I don't care who actually threw the first punch.

[linebckr83 3]

Ok so you know basic facts that were explained on tv. Like I said.

What's your infatuation with the phone call (which was to non-emergency not 911 btw)?

Now please correct me if any of this is wrong:

1) Zimmerman admits to non-emergency that he cant see the guy anymore

2) 4 Minutes pass between hanging up the phone and getting punched

3) He begins walking back to his truck to wait for police

4) Trayvon is on the phone with his friend hiding from the creepy ass cracka. He then tells her he'll handle it and the call drops

5) Zimmerman is confronted on the sidewalk. The fight moves a good 20-30ft to the other sidewalk where his head is bashed on

I could go on and on but you know the rest. Now, what makes you think that any of your points prove murder? There is nothing wrong with keeping an eye on a suspicious person while the cops are coming. There IS something wrong with confronting and punching someone. I realize you dislike this but luckily your opinion is absolutely useless when it differs from the law.

"Are you coming to the party?
Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!"
Flying Hellfish #828
Dudist #52

[linebckr83 3]

Bignugget

That would be enough for me to vote to send his ass to prison.

Even when there's no proof that he broke even a single law? I hope you are never part of a jury. People like you make the judicial system sickening.

Bignugget

I don't care who actually threw the first punch.

That sums up your arguement nicely. Who cares about the facts, send his ass to prison! Who cares if it's self defense or not!

"Are you coming to the party?
Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!"
Flying Hellfish #828
Dudist #52

[shropshire 0]

Ausies are out of season?

Who knew?


Sorry Mr Sqeak

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[masterrig 1]

...I'm sorry!


Chuck

[Bignugget 0]

Unless you are contending that if the jury had voted to convict the judge would have set it aside, or that if a member had held out and not voted to acquit the judge would have dismissed the jury and somehow just acquitted him.....my opinion would matter if I was on the jury.

None of my points proved murder. But they are enough for me to vote to send your ass to prison if they were true and I was on the jury.

He started the ball rolling by following Martin and not staying in his vehicle waiting for the police as instructed.

I don't care who threw the first punch.

[Bignugget 0]

linebckr83

***
That would be enough for me to vote to send his ass to prison.

Even when there's no proof that he broke even a single law? I hope you are never part of a jury. People like you make the judicial system sickening.

Bignugget

I don't care who actually threw the first punch.

That sums up your arguement nicely. Who cares about the facts, send his ass to prison! Who cares if it's self defense or not!

You should certainly hope that if you intend to do some shit like Zimmerman did.

[normiss 801]

The police never instructed anything.

[Bignugget 0]

normiss

The police never instructed anything.

"Are you following him"

'Yea'

"We don't need you to do that"


As they suggested?

[normiss 801]

So you don't actually know what 'police' means.
Thank you, you're dismissed.
Next potential juror please.

[Bignugget 0]

ZZZZ....really?

Let me rephrase it since apparently you were unclear as to my position.

When the dispatcher (who for sure isnt a cop?) at the desk tells him the police are on the way, and that "we" (not the police though...maybe the dispatcher was speaking for all secretaries?) don't need you to follow anyone.

...and you go ahead and follow them anyways.....and then the person you are following ends up dead.....and you admit killing him.....I vote you go to prison.

[normiss 801]

Not a dispatcher.
Not a cop.

Pay attention to the legal testimony of the person that actually said "We don't need you to do that."
It's not an order of any kind.
So again, it has zero legal bearing in any way.

You didn't pay attention to the judge during the instructions did you?
This is where we get dragged back into court and re-read the instructions. Again.
Thanks.

[Bignugget 0]

I think you are missing my stance.

I don't care if it was an old blind lady, with one arm, who had just vomited on herself who wandered past the phone at the police station and picked up and dispatched the police to the location.

He heard that "we" (meaning the police) don't need him to follow anyone.

he did it anyway.

kid ends up dead.

vote for conviction.

[Gravitymaster 0]

Sometimes with some people, you just have to say "fuck it, you don't know what you are talking about" and walk away.

[normiss 801]

Again ignoring the jury instructions from the court.

Why do you want this case retried again?

Thanks for your emotional testimony Ms. Surdyka.

[Bignugget 0]

Didn't see anything in the instructions that would preclude me voting the way I said.

I saw:

"However, if from the evidence you are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that
George Zimmerman was not justified in the use of deadly force, you should find him guilty if all
the elements of the charge have been proved."

That would sum it up.

I don't believe I have to justify my vote to anyone in the jury room, or to the judge.

I'd want it retried because I think he should go to prison....obviously...

[kallend 2,027]

The Zimmerman case is over. Let it be.

Bored teenagers do stupid stuff. Stupid => Deadly if they have guns.

Color of their skin is not relevant.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ManagingPrime 0]

Bignugget

I think you are missing my stance.

I don't care if it was an old blind lady, with one arm, who had just vomited on herself who wandered past the phone at the police station and picked up and dispatched the police to the location.

He heard that "we" (meaning the police) don't need him to follow anyone.

he did it anyway.

kid ends up dead.

vote for conviction.

Because it's a slow Friday afternoon at work.

The dispatchers are stating "we don't need you to..." for liability purposes. If they state "don't follow" so-and-so and so-and-so is not located by the responding police and kills someone there could be civil liabilities. If they state, "please follow" so-and-so and the person following so-and-so is injured there could be civil liabilities.

The logic the police use makes sense. Your logic is a little hard to follow.

What if there was no call to the police? Would your vote change to acquit?

[Bignugget 0]

Maybe.

It would be a lot easier for the winner of the fight to sell me on him being the poor innocent victim who was attacked by some random asshole.

[regulator 0]

kallend

The Zimmerman case is over. Let it be.

Bored teenagers do stupid stuff. Stupid => Deadly if they have guns.

Color of their skin is not relevant.

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in regards to the 15 year old laughing about the incident like taking lives is a laughing matter...his family has to be partially responsible...either from ineptness or sheer incompetence.
His older sister refused to do what I would immidietly do...remove myself from the equation and disown said family member. But instead its more...well um deys no other times he been mean or nothin..but mostly when other people has been racist with him. I'm not taking anything away from the possibility that happened. I'm simply talking about accepting responsibility and instead of denouncing their family member they cry racism themselves as a de facto excuse for everything.

[kallend 2,027]

regulator

***The Zimmerman case is over. Let it be.

Bored teenagers do stupid stuff. Stupid => Deadly if they have guns.

Color of their skin is not relevant.

--------------------------------------------------------
in regards to the 15 year old laughing about the incident like taking lives is a laughing matter...his family has to be partially responsible...either from ineptness or sheer incompetence.
His older sister refused to do what I would immidietly do...remove myself from the equation and disown said family member. But instead its more...well um deys no other times he been mean or nothin..but mostly when other people has been racist with him. I'm not taking anything away from the possibility that happened. I'm simply talking about accepting responsibility and instead of denouncing their family member they cry racism themselves as a de facto excuse for everything.

People of all races support their kids. Nothing extraordinary there.

You are making a mountain out of nothing.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.