Syria

[mpohl 1]

So, now it seems that the US is contemplating getting militarily involved in Syria. And they will get their asses kicked, with body bags flown back in large numbers every week...

Just as in Afghanistan (a medieval country that ultimately prevailed!). Remember, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia; this should serve as history's lesson.

Why? Because the Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians have nowhere to go. But to fight and win. America's XBox360 kid soldiers are no match...

There is so much that needs to be done in the US. Why not focus on that??????

[normiss 803]

Dude. The POTUS drew a RED LINE!



Next!

[quade 4]

If the US takes action, at least in the near term, there won't be any boots on the ground or pilots over head. No Americans will be flown home in body bags.

A few robots might get scuffed up, but I don't think they count.

I should also point out this won't be a unilateral action. It will have the support of a number of other countries who also get bent out of shape when governments decide to commit chemical warfare against their own people.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[mpohl 1]

Right now, nobody knows who used what. Was it the rebels, was it the government?

But ultimately, it is something the Syrian people have to deal with amongst themselves. It is none of the US business. That simple!!!!

quade

If the US takes action, at least in the near term, there won't be any boots on the ground or pilots over head. No Americans will be flown home in body bags.

A few robots might get scuffed up, but I don't think they count.

I should also point out this won't be a unilateral action. It will have the support of a number of other countries who also get bent out of shape when governments decide to commit chemical warfare against their own people.

[ryoder 1,590]

normiss

Dude. The POTUS drew a RED LINE!

Next!

"I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude!"

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Skyrad 0]

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Why? Because the Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians have nowhere to go.

Yep, though I don't think the USA will go into Syria with boots on the ground except for SF maybe. The country is broke and the appetite of the people simply isn't there.

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[mpohl 1]

Furthermore, there will be no UN resolution. Remember the last one: WMD, Iraq?

The US has lost all credibility.

Absent of a UN resolution, it will be a unilateral action...or a war of aggression. With the US being the aggressor.

quade

If the US takes action, at least in the near term, there won't be any boots on the ground or pilots over head. No Americans will be flown home in body bags.

A few robots might get scuffed up, but I don't think they count.

I should also point out this won't be a unilateral action. It will have the support of a number of other countries who also get bent out of shape when governments decide to commit chemical warfare against their own people.

[ryoder 1,590]

Interesting article on the topic: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/08/barack_obama_s_logic_for_bombing_syria_the_united_states_will_seek_to_put.html

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Gravitymaster 0]

I thought the mantra was that we never invade countries unless they have oil.

[mpohl 1]

They have pretty decent Olive Oil!

Gravitymaster

I thought the mantra was that we never invade countries unless they have oil.

[quade 4]

mpohl

Furthermore, there will be no UN resolution. Remember the last one: WMD, Iraq?

The US has lost all credibility.

Absent of a UN resolution, it will be a unilateral action...or a war of aggression. With the US being the aggressor.

I didn't say UN.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[quade 4]

ryoder

***Dude. The POTUS drew a RED LINE!
Next!

"I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude!"

Damn. I wish I had used that. Nice one.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[ryoder 1,590]

Gravitymaster

I thought the mantra was that we never invade countries unless they have oil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Syria#Oil

But lack of oil never stopped the US from invading a country, e.g. Grenada, Panama, etc.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[quade 4]

Gravitymaster

I thought the mantra was that we never invade countries unless they have oil.

This wouldn't be an invasion. It would be a set of surgical strikes performed from outside the borders.

There is a difference.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[quade 4]

mpohl

Right now, nobody knows who used what. Was it the rebels, was it the government?

The currently line of thinking by a number of analysts is the rebels didn't have access and the government most certainly does. Further, it appears the chemicals were delivered by rockets which points further to the government.

We're currently doing the checks on it.

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But ultimately, it is something the Syrian people have to deal with amongst themselves. It is none of the US business. That simple!!!!

Nope. If any government in the world begins genocide it is the business of the entire human race to stop it. The US just happens to have the capabilities.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[mpohl 1]

I disagree.

Where were you in North Korea? In Sri Lanka? In Tibet (balls not big enough to take on China?) In Ethiopia. Etc., etc.

You and I know that your argument is BS.



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2.4.2 Zanzibar
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2.4.5 Burundi 1972 and 1993
2.4.6 North Korea
2.4.7 Equatorial Guinea
2.4.8 East Timor under Indonesian occupation
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2.4.10 Dirty War in Argentina
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Nope. If any government in the world begins genocide it is the business of the entire human race to stop it. The US just happens to have the capabilities.

[quade 4]

I said it was their business. Not that action is always taken.

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[lawrocket 3]

So President Barack Dubya Obama is looking at taking military action against a middle-eastern government over stated concern about WMDs?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[jclalor 12]

It's interesting that we may side with the group that is diametrically opposed to their neighbor, who we just spent a trillion dollars on and wasted 4,000 American lives propping up.

[ryoder 1,590]

jclalor

It's interesting that we may side with the group that is diametrically opposed to their neighbor, who we just spent a trillion dollars on and wasted 4,000 American lives propping up.

This explains it:

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[jclalor 12]

ryoder

***It's interesting that we may side with the group that is diametrically opposed to their neighbor, who we just spent a trillion dollars on and wasted 4,000 American lives propping up.

This explains it:

agreed.

[jclalor 12]

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lawrocket

So President Barack Dubya Obama is looking at taking military action against a middle-eastern government over stated concern about WMDs?

But this time the UN has found them.

[Gravitymaster 0]

http://www.france24.com/en/20130825-syria-chemical-attack-evidence-may-have-been-destroyed-hague

Nope.

[jclalor 12]

Gravitymaster

http://www.france24.com/en/20130825-syria-chemical-attack-evidence-may-have-been-destroyed-hague

Nope.

Sit back and savor the moment, it appears I was momentarily wrong. Of course the highly political group Doctors Without Borders has witnessed hundreds of dead and dying from a neuro agent.

[shropshire 0]

Spot on.... which is pretty much why countries like ours that Mostly only think in black and white will never understand.

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