Florida choirboy in custody

[Rick 67]

what a waste of time and money

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[rhaig 0]

Bignugget

You know....according to GZ.

Lol.

I will remember to tell the cops I was done chasing whoever I was chasing, and was then randomly viciously attacked when I kill someone.

The key is to make sure that your opponent is dead.

Damn inconvenient if he survives and says he was still hiding when Zimmerman found and confronted him leading to an altercation that ultimately leads to Martin getting shot.

Gotta make sure that fucker is dead.

yup... that idiot george (wasn't too smart to get out of his car in the first place) master planned all of this (including where he would let himself get beat on according to witness accounts) just so he could kill a kid.

no wait... I forgot. You are willfully ignorant of the facts of the case, and closeminded about listening to any information that doesn't support the version of the events that you've already decided you believe.

--
Rob

[Bignugget 0]

rhaig

***

You know....according to GZ.

Lol.

I will remember to tell the cops I was done chasing whoever I was chasing, and was then randomly viciously attacked when I kill someone.

The key is to make sure that your opponent is dead.

Damn inconvenient if he survives and says he was still hiding when Zimmerman found and confronted him leading to an altercation that ultimately leads to Martin getting shot.

Gotta make sure that fucker is dead.

yup... that idiot george (wasn't too smart to get out of his car in the first place)


That part is accurate.

I don't contend he planned to murder the kid, nor that he planned to get 'beat up'.

I contend that there is very little likelihood the story happened the way the winner tells it.

No one saw how the altercation started.

But we know the situation started with Zimmerman following a kid who 'looked suspicious'. Not with a kid randomly attacking a man sitting in a truck.

[normiss 801]

I was unaware that I needed permission to exit my vehicle at will.

[Gravitymaster 0]

That's what a neighborhood watch captain is supposed to do.

[airdvr 210]

Bignugget

******

You know....according to GZ.

Lol.

I will remember to tell the cops I was done chasing whoever I was chasing, and was then randomly viciously attacked when I kill someone.

The key is to make sure that your opponent is dead.

Damn inconvenient if he survives and says he was still hiding when Zimmerman found and confronted him leading to an altercation that ultimately leads to Martin getting shot.

Gotta make sure that fucker is dead.

yup... that idiot george (wasn't too smart to get out of his car in the first place)


That part is accurate.

I don't contend he planned to murder the kid, nor that he planned to get 'beat up'.

I contend that there is very little likelihood the story happened the way the winner tells it.

No one saw how the altercation started.

But we know the situation started with Zimmerman following a kid who 'looked suspicious'. Not with a kid randomly attacking a man sitting in a truck.

You'll understand someday when you have things you need to protect.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[rushmc 23]

airdvr

*********

You know....according to GZ.

Lol.

I will remember to tell the cops I was done chasing whoever I was chasing, and was then randomly viciously attacked when I kill someone.

The key is to make sure that your opponent is dead.

Damn inconvenient if he survives and says he was still hiding when Zimmerman found and confronted him leading to an altercation that ultimately leads to Martin getting shot.

Gotta make sure that fucker is dead.

yup... that idiot george (wasn't too smart to get out of his car in the first place)


That part is accurate.

I don't contend he planned to murder the kid, nor that he planned to get 'beat up'.

I contend that there is very little likelihood the story happened the way the winner tells it.

No one saw how the altercation started.

But we know the situation started with Zimmerman following a kid who 'looked suspicious'. Not with a kid randomly attacking a man sitting in a truck.

You'll understand someday when you have things you need to protect.

No he will not

The things he has will have been given to him by the gov
Taken from those who work
If his stuff is taken the whimpering we be enough to get the gov to replace

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[ianmdrennan 2]

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No he will not

The things he has will have been given to him by the gov
Taken from those who work
If his stuff is taken the whimpering we be enough to get the gov to replace

That's a pretty pathetic and far stretch. You don't know the first thing about him, and what he's worked for (or not).

Performance Designs Factory Team

[kelpdiver 2]

ianmdrennan

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No he will not

The things he has will have been given to him by the gov
Taken from those who work
If his stuff is taken the whimpering we be enough to get the gov to replace

That's a pretty pathetic and far stretch. You don't know the first thing about him, and what he's worked for (or not).

I got a pretty good inkling that is he's my neighbor and something is going on at my house, he's not doing shit about it.

It's hard to give any credit to someone who is determined to ignore any evidence that doesn't jive with his uninformed first impression of the situation.

[ianmdrennan 2]

And that has ZERO to do with how hard he's worked, or what RushMc had to say.

Performance Designs Factory Team

[rehmwa 2]

Gravitymaster

That's what a neighborhood watch captain is supposed to do.

"neighborhood watch" is such a "it takes a village" concept, that I'm so confused over how the politically extreme crowd was even able to process the whole situation without head exploding.

Clearly, if you wanted GZ in jail, then you hate Hillary Clinton, the wife of the first black president. And she's old. And lesbians like her. therefore, that makes one:

ageist
sexist
racist
homophobic

the perfect accusatory quadfecta - they probably eat meat too

...
Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[kelpdiver 2]

ianmdrennan

And that has ZERO to do with how hard he's worked, or what RushMc had to say.

I see a link between "how hard he's worked" and respect for neighborhood watch activity. Or more precisely, I think disdain for it is more common for those who don't carry their own weight.

[rushmc 23]

kelpdiver

***And that has ZERO to do with how hard he's worked, or what RushMc had to say.

I see a link between "how hard he's worked" and respect for neighborhood watch activity. Or more precisely, I think disdain for it is more common for those who don't carry their own weight.

+1

Even more to me, it is a mentality about what is due or owed

His position (as least as he posts here) seem pretty clear to me

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[ianmdrennan 2]

I still think it's a massive assumption on your part.

Performance Designs Factory Team

[rushmc 23]

ianmdrennan

I still think it's a massive assumption on your part.

Could be

and you are absoulutly entitled to that opinion

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Bignugget 0]

kelpdiver

***

Quote

No he will not

The things he has will have been given to him by the gov
Taken from those who work
If his stuff is taken the whimpering we be enough to get the gov to replace

That's a pretty pathetic and far stretch. You don't know the first thing about him, and what he's worked for (or not).

I got a pretty good inkling that is he's my neighbor and something is going on at my house, he's not doing shit about it.

It's hard to give any credit to someone who is determined to ignore any evidence that doesn't jive with his uninformed first impression of the situation.

Nah.

I'd call the cops. Report the suspicious stuff, and stay inside my house.

Or my truck if I was Zimmerman.

I have no intention of killing another human, ever.....and most assuredly not to protect someones property.

[Bignugget 0]

kelpdiver

***And that has ZERO to do with how hard he's worked, or what RushMc had to say.

I see a link between "how hard he's worked" and respect for neighborhood watch activity. Or more precisely, I think disdain for it is more common for those who don't carry their own weight.

'Respect for neighborhood watch activity" has 0 to do with Zimmerman.

The title says it all....Neighborhood WATCH.

Not "Neighborhood follow people while armed"

I find it hilarious you draw socio-economic conclusions about me because I think chasing a kid down and killing him is inappropriate.


I am a 29 year old white male. Live alone, bought my home in 2008 when the market collapsed for cash so I hold no mortgage. I run 2 successful small businesses and have a B.S. in Finance with minors in Accounting and Economics.

Not sure how that factors into your box system, but you will make it work I am sure.

[rhaig 0]

Bignugget

"

I find it hilarious you draw socio-economic conclusions about me because I think chasing a kid down and killing him is inappropriate.

now who's making assumptions about the way things happened that night?

--
Rob

[kelpdiver 2]

Bignugget

I find it hilarious you draw socio-economic conclusions about me because I think chasing a kid down and killing him is inappropriate.

This of course is the problem. You think that is what happened, despite lacking supporting evidence and a contradictory jury verdict.

[Bignugget 0]

kelpdiver

***
I find it hilarious you draw socio-economic conclusions about me because I think chasing a kid down and killing him is inappropriate.

This of course is the problem. You think that is what happened, despite lacking supporting evidence and a contradictory jury verdict.


He started at point A, ended at point B. = pursued, chased, followed

Kid was alive, now kid is dead. = killed


*****I know you think he STOPPED chasing,pursuing,following Martin and was then spontaneously attacked*****

I doubt it.

But either way he started off by chasing, pursuing, and/or following the kid he ended up killing.





Maybe its a personal experience thing.

I have been Martin (minus getting killed).

-------I had some cracked out drunken asshole chase me and my buddy when we were like 15. We had gone wandering around the neighborhood late at night (like 2 am) for no real reason....because we weren't supposed to mostly. Some drunken asshole wandered outside as we walked past his house and determined we were obviously vandalizing his property. Chased us down, because of course we ran when some crazy fuck is chasing you, and then beat the shit out of my buddy while we tried to fight him off. He was a grown man..

Thankfully we managed to escape him and hide in the woods until the cops showed up (called by another neighbor who woke up due to the beating) and we were able to get his ass arrested.

He could have killed us, told the cops we were up to no good, and that he followed us but gave up, then we attacked him. So he had no choice but to kill us.

Thank god that didn't happen. I would never have gotten to touch boobies.-----------


So I can totally put myself in Martins shoes. If you could show me a video of Zimmerman standing at his truck and Martin running up and attacking him I would have a different view.

All you have is his story about stopping his pursuit.

No one witnessed him stopping.
No one witnessed Martin springing from hiding and attacking Zimmerman.
No one witnessed the first punch.

[skypuppy 1]

Bignugget

******

You know....according to GZ.

Lol.

I will remember to tell the cops I was done chasing whoever I was chasing, and was then randomly viciously attacked when I kill someone.

The key is to make sure that your opponent is dead.

Damn inconvenient if he survives and says he was still hiding when Zimmerman found and confronted him leading to an altercation that ultimately leads to Martin getting shot.

Gotta make sure that fucker is dead.

yup... that idiot george (wasn't too smart to get out of his car in the first place)


That part is accurate.

I don't contend he planned to murder the kid, nor that he planned to get 'beat up'.



quote]

actually you stated quite clearly you believe Zimmerman chased him down and executed him. maybe you should get your own story straight...

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[Bignugget 0]

He didn't premeditate murder. That is called 'planning'

He did chase the kid down.

He did kill the kid.

[rushmc 23]

Bignugget

He didn't premeditate murder. That is called 'planning'

He did chase the kid down.

He did kill the kid.

You need to find a way to come back to reality

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Bignugget 0]

rushmc

***He didn't premeditate murder. That is called 'planning'

He did chase the kid down.

He did kill the kid.

You need to find a way to come back to reality



He started at point A, ended at point B. = pursued, chased, followed

Kid was alive, now kid is dead. = killed

[turtlespeed 220]

Bignugget

******He didn't premeditate murder. That is called 'planning'

He did chase the kid down.

He did kill the kid.

You need to find a way to come back to reality



He started at point A, ended at point B. = pursued, chased, followed

Kid was alive, now kid is dead. = killed

You are making it sound like he ran after TM. There is no evidence of that. There is no evidence that he "pursued" him either; Followed, maybe, but no evidence of pursued.

pur·sue
pərˈso͞o/Submit
verb
past tense: pursued; past participle: pursued
1.
follow (someone or something) in order to catch or attack them.
"the officer pursued the van"

You are going solely on your belief and emotion.

Look at the FACTS of the case like the jury did.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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