kallend 2,027 #51 November 14, 2013 DaVinci*********More directly I'll ask, to what end do you want to see the word "black" more frequently in the Chicago Tribune? There is an "epidemic of black-mob violence". There is indeed. And it's pretty much confined to 2 neighborhoods. But DESPITE that, Chicago still doesn't make the top ten US cities for murder rate, and there are 78 worse cities than Chicago for violent crime rate. So why pick on Chicago when Atlanta, Miami, Memphis, Nashville, Birmingham, Orlando and Cincinnati (to name a few) have worse violent crime? Oh yes, because Obama comes from Chicago. Chicago gets picked because unlike the other locations you mentioned none of them have the draconian gun laws Chicago has. It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with the stupidity of the gun laws of Chicago. So Chicago, with it's "stupid" gun laws and a serious ongoing gang war over the drug trade, does NOT make the top 10 cities list for murder rate in the USA, and there are 78 cities without "stupid" gun laws that are more dangerous. Funny definition of "stupid" you are using there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #52 November 14, 2013 "I think race is relevant to that story. Would be surprised if it wasn't mentioned, considering it is about an immigration hearing and ties to a Macau based Triad." Yes, but the title of the story has racial overtones. "‘A blight on society’: Asian gangs responsible for kidnappings, drug smuggling in Canada, immigration hearing told" Now that's relevant. A certain race is "A blight on society". So how do you intend to get rid of this "blight on society"? Throw the "blighters" out of the country. That seems unfair.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #53 November 14, 2013 rickjump1 "I think race is relevant to that story. Would be surprised if it wasn't mentioned, considering it is about an immigration hearing and ties to a Macau based Triad." Yes, but the title of the story has racial overtones. "‘A blight on society’: Asian gangs responsible for kidnappings, drug smuggling in Canada, immigration hearing told" Now that's relevant. A certain race is "A blight on society". So how do you intend to get rid of this "blight on society"? Throw the "blighters" out of the country. That seems unfair. Yeah, that's not what the article said. And you wonder why people call you a racist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #54 November 14, 2013 SkyDekker It is about relevant facts, not just a listing of all facts. If the reporting is about an incident in which the criminal remains at large, a physical description is relevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #55 November 14, 2013 SkyDekkerWould be surprised if it wasn't mentioned, considering it is about an immigration hearing and ties to a Macau based Triad. Aren't Macau's a type of parrot? that would be news ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #56 November 14, 2013 Quotet is about relevant facts, not just a listing of all facts. Obviously for you and rick it is extremely important to know the race of a criminal if they are not white. You just make stuff up don't you? I have said REPEATEDLY that I think race should be mentioned no matter what race it is. QuoteTo me race is only relevant if it is relevant to the story. I don't care if the guy who robbed the corner store is black, white, green or yellow. Data is important. Without the raw data you are relying on what others see as important. This is one of the classic methods where people push an agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #57 November 14, 2013 QuoteSo Chicago, with it's "stupid" gun laws and a serious ongoing gang war over the drug trade, does NOT make the top 10 cities list for murder rate in the USA, and there are 78 cities without "stupid" gun laws that are more dangerous. When you tout how great Chicago's gun laws are and then ignore the gun violence.... Then you are being intentionally dishonest. QuoteFunny definition of "stupid" you are using there. Yes, I use the one where things do not work are called stupid. You seem to use the definition of the things you don't like are called stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #58 November 14, 2013 SkyDekker And you wonder why people call you a racist. So, I see you are loosing another debate"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #59 November 15, 2013 SkyDekker*** "I think race is relevant to that story. Would be surprised if it wasn't mentioned, considering it is about an immigration hearing and ties to a Macau based Triad." Yes, but the title of the story has racial overtones. "‘A blight on society’: Asian gangs responsible for kidnappings, drug smuggling in Canada, immigration hearing told" Now that's relevant. A certain race is "A blight on society". So how do you intend to get rid of this "blight on society"? Throw the "blighters" out of the country. That seems unfair. Yeah, that's not what the article said. And you wonder why people call you a racist.Hey Bozo, "A blight on society", is straight from the newspaper.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #60 November 15, 2013 DaVinciQuoteSo Chicago, with it's "stupid" gun laws and a serious ongoing gang war over the drug trade, does NOT make the top 10 cities list for murder rate in the USA, and there are 78 cities without "stupid" gun laws that are more dangerous. When you tout how great Chicago's gun laws are and then ignore the gun violence.... Then you are being intentionally dishonest. Please provide a link to any post I've made where I "tout how great Chicago's gun laws are ". Seems to me that the dishonesty is 100% on your side.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #61 November 15, 2013 I'll bite: The headline states "asian gangs". Implication being that the gangs who are of an asian variety are a blight on society, not that asians are.You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #62 November 15, 2013 mistercwoodI'll bite: The headline states "asian gangs". Implication being that the gangs who are of an asian variety are a blight on society, not that asians are. Sure. "‘A blight on society’: Asian gangs responsible for kidnappings, drug smuggling in Canada, immigration hearing told" They didn't say "gangs", they said "Asian gangs". Is this any different than "Chicago's Black Mobs" instead of just "Mobs". Nobody is saying all blacks belong to mobs robbing stores..... I believe the Canadians in this case are not using racial bias nor political correctness. They are telling who exactly is "responsible for kidnappings, drug smuggling in Canada.."Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #63 November 15, 2013 I was merely pointing out where the miscommunication appeared to be. Rick, I don't necessarily believe that you actually are a racist. But I don't think you always realise when you're inadvertently coming across as one.You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #64 November 15, 2013 mistercwoodI was merely pointing out where the miscommunication appeared to be. Rick, I don't necessarily believe that you actually are a racist. But I don't think you always realise when you're inadvertently coming across as one. ROFL yes, his countless threads are entirely inadvertent. Hey, there's a call here for you. It's P.T. Barnum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #65 November 15, 2013 mistercwoodI was merely pointing out where the miscommunication appeared to be. Rick, I don't necessarily believe that you actually are a racist. But I don't think you always realise when you're inadvertently coming across as one. Unfortunately or fortunately, my comments bring out the best of "SLAWB": Stupid, Liberal, Anti-White Bigotry.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #66 November 15, 2013 QuotePlease provide a link to any post I've made where I "tout how great Chicago's gun laws are ". All anyone needs to do is read any of your posts. You claim Chicago's gun laws do not work since guns are available across the state line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #67 November 18, 2013 The real problem is that we humans are sheep, regardless of race. If you grow up with parents that watch Fox News and think Obama is the devil, you will think the same. If Rick was an inner city male youth in Chicago, he would be gang banging too. It has NOTHING to do with race, it has everything to do with the environment you are exposed to. To think you would be the exception is not realistic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #68 November 18, 2013 DuckwaterThe real problem is that we humans are sheep, regardless of race. If you grow up with parents that watch Fox News and think Obama is the devil, you will think the same. If Rick was an inner city male youth in Chicago, he would be gang banging too. It has NOTHING to do with race, it has everything to do with the environment you are exposed to. To think you would be the exception is not realistic. I hatched out of a military family. Both parents were democrats and did not vote for Eisenhower. Both were from the south but believed in the civil rights movement. As a kid living in Montgomery, Alabama, I remember MLK's bus boycotts and Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat on the bus. Both never hated anyone, but when the democrats starting going liberal, they switched parties. No doubt both of them would have gone into overtime researching the neighborhood organizer if they were alive. Color would have had nothing to do with it. Regarding inner city male youth: with the right parents/parent or teachers, not all grow up to be thugs. One of my friends made it out of there. Funny how people get uncomfortable when we ask questions about the "sheep" that Barack Hussein Obama followed.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #69 November 18, 2013 DuckwaterThe real problem is that we humans are sheep, regardless of race. If you grow up with parents that watch Fox News and think Obama is the devil, you will think the same. If Rick was an inner city male youth in Chicago, he would be gang banging too. It has NOTHING to do with race, it has everything to do with the environment you are exposed to. To think you would be the exception is not realistic. How about if you grow up with parents that watch CBS and you thought Bush was the devil Strike too close to home?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #70 November 18, 2013 No, I don't think it does for that poster . I think his point is valid in that most people do tend to follow similar thought paths to how they were brought up. By no means all, but the pressure to stay in the family is strong, and the pressure, therefore, to think sympathetically with the family is also strong. Even if not deliberate. Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #71 November 18, 2013 wmw999 No, I don't think it does for that poster . I think his point is valid in that most people do tend to follow similar thought paths to how they were brought up. By no means all, but the pressure to stay in the family is strong, and the pressure, therefore, to think sympathetically with the family is also strong. Even if not deliberate. Wendy P. I thinks that depends on the family and I would hate to make the generalizations he made I think the Cheny's may be a good example of my point right now"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #72 November 18, 2013 DuckwaterThe real problem is that we humans are sheep, regardless of race. If you grow up with parents that watch Fox News and think Obama is the devil, you will think the same. If Rick was an inner city male youth in Chicago, he would be gang banging too. It has NOTHING to do with race, it has everything to do with the environment you are exposed to. To think you would be the exception is not realistic. I don't ascribe "race" so much as "culture." Like it or not, there are cultures and subcultures for which violence is a way of life. Nisbett and Cohen wrote about violence as a culture (they focused a lot on Southern White Males). They found that with a simple experiment that males of certain culture were quick to act with self-protection. They were very sensitive to insults. And they were willing to dispense their justice themselves. Now, take a look at the inner city subcultures. Just like southern whites, inner cities are resource-poor areas. Self-worth is determined in other ways. It's why dissing someone is cause for severe retribution in plenty of neighborhoods. There's an emphasis on bling in these cultures - visual demonstrations to affect others' perceptions. Violence is the coping mechanism. There is a code of the street that celebrates and encourages violence to defend the idea of honor. These are found in very small communities. That's why there are localized high-crime areas. There are turf wars - think about it. These people have little of their own to defend so they take up turf. Unfortunately, the thug life has found itself a stronghold in consciousness. Many celebrate it. Only a small percentage of people reallly go hardcore on that. But assuming 5% or a housing project become killer thugs, it's easy to see how 5 out of 100 can really make the place tough. It's not a black thing. It's a culture thing. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #73 November 18, 2013 QuoteIt's not a black thing. It's a culture thing. +993 Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divertech 0 #74 November 19, 2013 This is funny, and the white South Africans gets labeled as rasist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #75 November 20, 2013 More racist reportinghttp://www.wnd.com/2013/11/surprise-media-finally-wake-up-to-knockout-game/ And this if far from new Quote For reporters willing to look, hundreds of examples are easy to find – though more often the perpetrators are identified as “unruly teens” or “rambunctious” rather than creators of racial violence and mayhem. A smattering: In Hoboken, three black people punched a homeless person in September. He died. Not too much different from an earlier episode in Syracuse, where a black mob killed Michael Daniels in May. In August in Lansing, several black people tried to play the Knockout Game with a twist: They used a taser. It misfired. The victim’s gun did not. He wounded his attacker but stopped firing after the Knockout Artist begged for mercy. In January, several members of the University of Alabama national championship football team attacked two students in what many call the Knockout Game. At the University of Illinois in Champaign, the game has a different name: Polar Bear Hunting. But with dozens of examples, including a local TV reporter, the black mobs play by the same rules: Find a defenseless white or Asian person, and punch them in the face until your arms are tired. Or they are knocked out. Or dead. In Chicago last year, two black people killed a Mexican immigrant and grandfather as he was collecting cans in a downtown alley. The local press had trouble talking about the race of the perpetrators, but Mexican national news did not: Top 100 Black Mob Violence Videos #87: Spanish edition. CNN however, was eager to report that the families of the black people arrested and later convicted of the crime after posting it on Facebook were good boys who were just playing a “prank that got out of hand.” In St. Cloud, Minn., a car full of black people came upon a college student in an alley walking two girls home from the library. The car screeched to a stop, one man got out and hit 20-year old Colton Gleason in the face. He died. His attacker was convicted earlier this year after the jury rejected his defense that Colton and the two female college students he was walking home actually hit their car. In March of this year, six black people were convicted in the stabbing death of Matthew Chew in New London, Conn. The headline tells the story: 25-year-old victim loses Knockout Game. In Pittsburgh last year, several black people were caught on video punching a teacher in the face as they passed each other in an alley. That happened twice: Earlier that year, another teacher was almost killed as he slipped and fell in traffic while fleeing the Knockout Game, on video. Last year in Meriden, Conn., DeAndre Felton and his 10 of his friends thought they found an easy mark for a bit of the old Knockout Game. They chose the wrong guy: He pulled a knife and killed DeAndre and wounded one other attacker. The attackers’ parents said their children were innocent, just like Trayvon Martin in Florida. In St. Louis earlier this year, a black person was sentenced to life for the Knockout Game death of a 72-year old Vietnamese immigrant. In St. Louis alone, a judge said one person was responsible for 300 episodes of the Knockout Game. In Oklahoma earlier this year, an accused killer of the Australian college student Chris Lane tweeted that he was “playing golf” and hitting “woods” prior to the murder earlier this month. Woods is short for “peckerwoods:” White people. The Knockout Game. He said he did that five times since the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin. Anyone looking at the hundreds and hundreds of examples – many on video – knows this: The victims can be white. Or Asian. Or women. Or homosexual. But this much they have in common: All of attackers in the Knockout Game are black. A St. Louis writer, activist and boxing coach talks about the Knockout Game in his video blog. He says police ignore many Knockout Game assaults because they make the city look bad.The perpetrators are black and the victims are not, he says. But the boxing coach knows why: "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites