4T Hard drive, or any drive larger than 2.2T

[ChrisD 0]

Don't.

If your thinking of one of these for Christmas and you have an older computer, by older I mean 2013. Just don't.

I would recommend 2 2T drives instead. Yes I'm sure somewhere, someone, out there is having fun with their large (Over 2.2T drive) but for the rest of us you really need the new MB's with the UFFeio support...and a few other brand new specifications.

The new large drives, to date have a miserable record working with USB type drive caddy's, and other computers than the one they were originally formatted on. And yes I'm sure theer is someone somewhere having fun transporting there drives to other computors but I don't want to hear it.

Seagate really doesn't have their act toghther yet,..


so you have been warned....

C


Just trying to save many from a lot of grief....

and if you don't exactly understand all of the stuff about a MBR V. UPT initialization then just don't....

But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump."

[grue 1]

ChrisD

Don't.

If your thinking of one of these for Christmas and you have an older computer, by older I mean 2013. Just don't.

I would recommend 2 2T drives instead. Yes I'm sure somewhere, someone, out there is having fun with their large (Over 2.2T drive) but for the rest of us you really need the new MB's with the UFFeio support...and a few other brand new specifications.

The new large drives, to date have a miserable record working with USB type drive caddy's, and other computers than the one they were originally formatted on. And yes I'm sure theer is someone somewhere having fun transporting there drives to other computors but I don't want to hear it.

Seagate really doesn't have their act toghther yet,..


so you have been warned....

C


Just trying to save many from a lot of grief....

and if you don't exactly understand all of the stuff about a MBR V. UPT initialization then just don't....

Workin' fine in my 2009 machine

cavete terrae.

[JohnnyMarko 1]

This is such a SC worthy thread.

[grue 1]

JohnnyMarko

This is such a SC worthy thread.

Hey asshole there was a 4TB drive in the Reaper drone that killed Paul Walker.

cavete terrae.

[JohnnyMarko 1]

grue

***This is such a SC worthy thread.

Hey asshole there was a 4TB drive in the Reaper drone that killed Paul Walker.

[FlyingRhenquest 1]

You're never going to acquire a petabyte of porn with THAT attitude!

I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here?

[champu 1]

ChrisD

The new large drives, to date have a miserable record working with USB type drive caddy's, and other computers than the one they were originally formatted on.

The price of a NAS server isn't as ridiculous as it once was. I have a Synology NAS that I got a while ago and it supports 4TB drives.

[ChrisD 0]

FlyingRhenquest

You're never going to acquire a petabyte of porn with THAT attitude!

To quote Ron ,...White that is,...


"You would think that once you have seen one set, you would probably say something like you have seem em all and ..."

Well after 500 Mb or so I'm still lookin
C

No,... seriously, I have a few 4T drives running on multiple windows operating systems. I just wanted to save some, anyone, some grief down the road, cause they all have been a real pain to keep running. But solid state drives were like this in the beginning. So I'd imagine they will work out the bugs over a couple of years or so.

But think of it this way; you purchase a retail drive, fill it full of all of the stuff you want to save, and then considering it's a retail drive, it crashes with hundreds of hours of work stored on the thing. It's kind of like the more you invest in one of these the more your at risk for data loss. So the idea of large drives, considering retail customers, is something to think about. I'm sure in ten years I'll be eating those words however....

On a side note I have been using that crap software studio to render stuff and time a "standard" avi file. Using a raid 0 setup, with SSD's and compared with a single sata drive, the raid 0 is rendering files in about 1/4 of the time, every time and in some instances rendering about 30 min of HD in about five min as compared with 6 hours. Of course setting up Raid 0 can be a pain....

But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump."

[DSE 5]

ChrisD

On a side note I have been using that crap software studio to render stuff and time a "standard" avi file. Using a raid 0 setup, with SSD's and compared with a single sata drive, the raid 0 is rendering files in about 1/4 of the time, every time and in some instances rendering about 30 min of HD in about five min as compared with 6 hours. Of course setting up Raid 0 can be a pain....

You're kinda showing your antiquated knowledge; .avi has been an unsupported format since 2005.
Most media formats are compressed, and .avi is not a format that supports compression, metadata, or tagging, necessary for most formats of today (pro and consumer). Microsoft doesn't even support .avi containers for their own codecs these days.

[ChrisD 0]

DSE

***

On a side note I have been using that crap software studio to render stuff and time a "standard" avi file. Using a raid 0 setup, with SSD's and compared with a single sata drive, the raid 0 is rendering files in about 1/4 of the time, every time and in some instances rendering about 30 min of HD in about five min as compared with 6 hours. Of course setting up Raid 0 can be a pain....

You're kinda showing your antiquated knowledge; .avi has been an unsupported format since 2005.
Most media formats are compressed, and .avi is not a format that supports compression, metadata, or tagging, necessary for most formats of today (pro and consumer). Microsoft doesn't even support .avi containers for their own codecs these days.

If it pleases his majesty,
I also use that shit program Studio Media Suite, any version, cause it is so slow and clunky and for an added attraction just throw in more than 5 transitions and you stand about a 100 percent chance it's going to crash on any file that is longer than 25 min.. The only program I test with that is worse is Microsoft Movie Maker. That thing has more bugs in it than a rotting heifer in the Montana sun, ten days dead. Now I'm saying I get computers to work, I don't do much of that artsy fartsy stuff you guys are so good at that is a pleasure to watch. But I'm telling ya too think twice about plunking down some hard earned scratch before purchasing a 3 or 4 T drive.

C

I am just taken the time to point out as these large 4T drives hit the Christmas shopping shelves they are not problem free. In addition; for those that are running XP, the "Drivers" the new versions of "DiskWizard" install are really cpu intensive. This means a constant slow down every time the drive is accessed.

But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump."

[DanG 1]

When did Speakers Corner become Tech Support?

- Dan G

[shropshire 0]

Speakers are hardware too

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[ChrisD 0]

DanG

When did Speakers Corner become Tech Support?

Cause I keep getting asked to leave the computer area that is secretly hidden in the camera section.

For using highly descriptive words like: "the little hole thingingy" when referring to the HDMI connections and stuff like that....

No sense of Humor....

C

It's all a Microsoft conspiracy anyways. You all thought that James Bond movie was makin shjit up? Why should we be the ones paying for updates cause the original product is defective??? my anology to a hammer is this:

You purchase a hammer. You expect it to work right out of the box. So why do we get little notices in the inbox when our software never worked right in the first place and they expect us to pay for that??? Kind of reminds me of why cows wish they had fingers!

To pull out those cute nose rings.

But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump."

[DanG 1]

Quote

It's all a Microsoft conspiracy anyways. You all thought that James Bond movie was makin shjit up? Why should we be the ones paying for updates cause the original product is defective???

Microsoft updates are free.

Of course, if you want or need the newest software with the newest features, why shouldn't you pay for that?

- Dan G

[regulator 0]

ChrisD

***You're never going to acquire a petabyte of porn with THAT attitude!

To quote Ron ,...White that is,...


"You would think that once you have seen one set, you would probably say something like you have seem em all and ..."

Well after 500 Mb or so I'm still lookin
C

No,... seriously, I have a few 4T drives running on multiple windows operating systems. I just wanted to save some, anyone, some grief down the road, cause they all have been a real pain to keep running. But solid state drives were like this in the beginning. So I'd imagine they will work out the bugs over a couple of years or so.

But think of it this way; you purchase a retail drive, fill it full of all of the stuff you want to save, and then considering it's a retail drive, it crashes with hundreds of hours of work stored on the thing. It's kind of like the more you invest in one of these the more your at risk for data loss. So the idea of large drives, considering retail customers, is something to think about. I'm sure in ten years I'll be eating those words however....

On a side note I have been using that crap software studio to render stuff and time a "standard" avi file. Using a raid 0 setup, with SSD's and compared with a single sata drive, the raid 0 is rendering files in about 1/4 of the time, every time and in some instances rendering about 30 min of HD in about five min as compared with 6 hours. Of course setting up Raid 0 can be a pain....

I have 4 120 GB drives running in RAID 0 with 2 2TB drives to store my data. I am running windows 7 and all of my scores on my computer are all maxed out at 7.9 in the performance index.

[kelpdiver 2]

DanG

Quote

It's all a Microsoft conspiracy anyways. You all thought that James Bond movie was makin shjit up? Why should we be the ones paying for updates cause the original product is defective???

Microsoft updates are free.

Of course, if you want or need the newest software with the newest features, why shouldn't you pay for that?

these days you have to pay to not accept their updates (iow, to stay on win 7).

[DanG 1]

Quote

these days you have to pay to not accept their updates (iow, to stay on win 7).

Really? Maybe for enterprise support, but I haven't gotten a bill yet for leaving my home PC on Win7

- Dan G

[kelpdiver 2]

DanG

Quote

these days you have to pay to not accept their updates (iow, to stay on win 7).

Really? Maybe for enterprise support, but I haven't gotten a bill yet for leaving my home PC on Win7

if you buy a new machine, you're hard pressed to find it with 7.

[Stumpy 284]

kelpdiver

***

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these days you have to pay to not accept their updates (iow, to stay on win 7).

Really? Maybe for enterprise support, but I haven't gotten a bill yet for leaving my home PC on Win7

if you buy a new machine, you're hard pressed to find it with 7.

I just ordered 20 notebooks of 3 different sorts. All of them had Windows 7 as a no cost option. I took that option - everyone we have put onto windows 8 HATES it.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[kelpdiver 2]

Stumpy

I just ordered 20 notebooks of 3 different sorts. All of them had Windows 7 as a no cost option. I took that option - everyone we have put onto windows 8 HATES it.

business class laptops? When Vista came along, it was very easy to specify the XP option, but this time around, I'm seeing a lot less of it. Dell will still give you options, but Asus seems to have gone all in for 8. For touch screens, that makes sense, but I just want (soon) a new and shiny ultrabook.

I was hoping it might get better by 8.1, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

[DanG 1]

I generally by hardware and install the software I want, including OS. You can buy Win7 and install it if yu really want to avoid 8.

- Dan G

[Stumpy 284]

kelpdiver

business class laptops?

Yep. (Business class laptops for a small business/ consumer audience - it's a long story.)

At work we are almost entirely on Chromebook now. So much easier.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[ChrisD 0]

regulator

*** Of course setting up Raid 0 can be a pain....

I have 4 120 GB drives running in RAID 0 with 2 2TB drives to store my data. I am running windows 7 and all of my scores on my computer are all maxed out at 7.9 in the performance index.

I love your ecological use of hard drives, overkill is wonderful
My only observation about your system is a minor concern for the number of Raid 0 drives, once you get above 2 then you run into failure probabilities, but since your backing everything up to the storage drives as soon as possible that helps.

See people! You can set up a Raid 0 system and still survive!

Great work!

C

But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump."

[ChrisD 0]

DanG

Quote

It's all a Microsoft conspiracy anyways. You all thought that James Bond movie was makin shjit up? Why should we be the ones paying for updates cause the original product is defective???

Microsoft updates are free.

Of course, if you want or need the newest software with the newest features, why shouldn't you pay for that?

I love ya man,...!

but yo actually pay for the supposed free updates, they are built into the cost, somebody somewhere pays.....

but my point is that some, if not all of this software should work right out of the box. The public has become a punching bag AND expected to pay for the development that comes after and before.

In no other business would they survive with this kind of attitude and poor product design.

Think of it this way: you sell something that doesn't work and then bill your customers to fix it!

My point is that it should have worked from the very beginning!

C

remember all of that bundled software that used to come with store purchases? Do yo fully understand what and why Microsoft is making demands on manufacturers to use only Win 8?

Win 8 is their answer to Chrome. They want to position themselves so that you never purchase a program again! They want U to use apps and pay a monthly fee. This isn't a software advancement. This is the beginning of a monopoly by a corporation that is going to dictate the future of computing to you. The only existence of windows 8 is to find and remove cash from our pockets in new and creative ways.

fuckin name something that Win 8 does better than vista! I mean for real, something that is worth the 2 hundred bucks they want from you!!!

But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump."

[kelpdiver 2]

DanG

I generally by hardware and install the software I want, including OS. You can buy Win7 and install it if yu really want to avoid 8.

An option for the desktop, but not for the laptop customer.