regulator 0 #1 December 9, 2013 Rick Clark, sheriff of Pickens County, South Carolina, snubbed the order given by Barack Obama to fly flags at government buildings at half staff to commemorate the passing of 95-year-old Saouth African leader nelson Mandela, BizPac Review reported Saturday. The reason Clark gave on Facebook is that Mandela was not an American. "I usually don’t post political items, but today is different. I received this notification today, 'As a mark of respect for the memory of Nelson Mandela, the President orders that the flag of the United States be flown at half-staff effective immediately until sunset, December 9, 2013,'″ he wrote on Facebook. "Nelson Mandela did great things for his country and was a brave man but he was not an AMERICAN!!! The flag should be lowered at our Embassy in S. Africa, but not here. Our flag is at half staff today for a Deputy in the low country who died going to help his fellow Deputy. He deserves the honor. I have ordered that the flag here at my office back up after tomorrow’s mourning of Pearl Harbor Day," he added. Obama issued the rare order on Thursday, even though he refused to give the same order when former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher died. “In fact, the last foreign dignitary to be memorialized with the flag was Pope John Paul II in 2005,” NPR said. Predictably, liberals used the story as an excuse to toss out the race card. "Many," the Los Angeles Times said, "are saying it plays right into stereotypes about the racist South." http://www.examiner.com/article/s-c-sheriff-snubs-obama-refuses-to-fly-flag-at-half-staff-for-nelson-mandela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 December 9, 2013 And they are already planning on calling Hillary's detractors sexists if she gets the nod "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 December 9, 2013 Here's the entire paragraph from the LA Times; QuoteReaction to the news of Clark's decision was immediate and sharply divided. Many are saying it plays right into stereotypes about the racist South. Others acknowledge Clark's point, but conclude that Mandela is a special case: "Lower the flag ... be a human being," said one post on the sheriff department's Facebook page. Seems far more balanced in context than the article you're quoting makes it out to be.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 December 9, 2013 He sounds a bit more subject to excessive "nationalism" than racism test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... (Is she dead?) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 December 9, 2013 rehmwa... when Margaret Thatcher died... (Is she dead?) Yes.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #6 December 9, 2013 Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 December 9, 2013 jakee Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? Super easy. Mandela is to Obama as ________ is to Reagan.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #8 December 9, 2013 jakee Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? I was just trying pick a white guy ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #9 December 9, 2013 quade *** Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? Super easy. Mandela is to Obama as Nancy is to Reagan.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #10 December 9, 2013 rehmwa *** Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? I was just trying pick a white guy Guy?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #11 December 9, 2013 airdvr *** Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? Super easy. Mandela is to Obama as Nancy is to Reagan. I guess it's better to compare Mandela to Nancy than Maggie, but then it'd be better to compare him to almost anyone than Maggie.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #12 December 9, 2013 quadeHere's the entire paragraph from the LA Times; QuoteReaction to the news of Clark's decision was immediate and sharply divided. Many are saying it plays right into stereotypes about the racist South. Others acknowledge Clark's point, but conclude that Mandela is a special case: "Lower the flag ... be a human being," said one post on the sheriff department's Facebook page. Seems far more balanced in context than the article you're quoting makes it out to be. Explain how? the article I posted said the exact same thing yours did except it inserted a COMMENT from another posted about how they thought it should be. That wasn't from the original article. Nice shade of rose colored glasses there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 December 9, 2013 The article you quoted makes it sound as if the opinion is held by the LA Times when the reality is it's simply showing there is more than one point of view.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #14 December 10, 2013 Um, you realize Mandela was black, and the person making the claim of racism was talking about him, not Obama, right? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #15 December 10, 2013 I didn't write the article. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #16 December 10, 2013 QuoteI didn't write the article. No, but you wrote the stupid fucking thread title, didn't you? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #17 December 10, 2013 airdvr ****** Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? Super easy. Mandela is to Obama as Nancy is to Reagan. I think when it comes to the subject of Mandela and SA, the right would prefer not bringing up the names of Reagan and Thatcher. It's kind of embarrassing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #18 December 10, 2013 jakee Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? Well, only one of them was a terrorist…cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #19 December 10, 2013 grue *** Quote test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? Well, only one of them was a terrorist… Well you know what they say... One mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 December 10, 2013 Absolutely. To be clear, EVERY Founding Father of the US was considered to be a terrorist by the King of England.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #21 December 10, 2013 quadeAbsolutely. To be clear, EVERY Founding Father of the US was considered to be a terrorist by the King of England. Really? Where is that written in a history book or respectable document.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #22 December 10, 2013 turtlespeed***Absolutely. To be clear, EVERY Founding Father of the US was considered to be a terrorist by the King of England. Really? Where is that written in a history book or respectable document. Where isn't it? Simply look at the acts they committed from the viewpoint of the King of England. Terrorists and traitors every single one. Or did you think England sent troops over here to simply have tea with them?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #23 December 10, 2013 QuoteReally? Where is that written in a history book or respectable document. What about a un-respectable history book? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #24 December 10, 2013 quade******Absolutely. To be clear, EVERY Founding Father of the US was considered to be a terrorist by the King of England. Really? Where is that written in a history book or respectable document. Where isn't it? Simply look at the acts they committed from the viewpoint of the King of England. Terrorists and traitors every single one. Or did you think England sent troops over here to simply have tea with them? Actually, they were traitors to the crown. It's a bit different from terrorists. They were in open rebellion against the government and government forces.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 December 10, 2013 jclalor QuoteReally? Where is that written in a history book or respectable document. What about a un-respectable history book? Cant get one They are all going to public high schools today"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites