NOW it is a hate crime!

[rushmc 23]

what a joke our DOJ is

[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/26/federal-authorities-charge-white-knockout-suspect-/***

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[winsor 236]

rushmc

what a joke our DOJ is

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/26/federal-authorities-charge-white-knockout-suspect-/

Honkies have no appreciation for the use of a double-standard in the pursuit of justice.

[davjohns 1]

Probably a poor choice on starting points, but it looks like a slam-dunk case. Feds like those.

Mixed feelings on the whole 'hate crime' thing. Yes, it is wrong. But should it be an enhanced sentence issue? Lots of things are wrong. And in the end, why someone harmed you does't make the harm greater or lesser. If this caucasian did the same thing to another caucasian, would the victim be comforted to know it wasn't a hate crime?

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[Arvoitus 1]

I always thought that the victim needs to be a minority for it to count as a hate crime. Are you telling me that whites can be victims of 'hate crime' too?

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

[winsor 236]

Arvoitus

I always thought that the victim needs to be a minority for it to count as a hate crime. Are you telling me that whites can be victims of 'hate crime' too?

Not possible. White people are too well-liked.

[rushmc 23]

Arvoitus

I always thought that the victim needs to be a minority for it to count as a hate crime. Are you telling me that whites can be victims of 'hate crime' too?

So the lives and health of minorities are worth more than non minorities?

There was a story years back where a white girl and and black girl were raped (two different incidents)
Both rapists were caught
The white girl was raped by a black man
The black girl was raped by a white man
Both in the same city within two weeks of each other
The black rapist got probation
The white rapist got multiple years in prison
Both had no priors
The father of the white girl aksed the court why the well being of his girl was worth less than that of the black girl
How would you answer this?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[winsor 236]

rushmc

***I always thought that the victim needs to be a minority for it to count as a hate crime. Are you telling me that whites can be victims of 'hate crime' too?

So the lives and health of minorities are worth more than non minorities?

There was a story years back where a white girl and and black girl were raped (two different incidents)
Both rapists were caught
The white girl was raped by a black man
The black girl was raped by a white man
Both in the same city within two weeks of each other
The black rapist got probation
The white rapist got multiple years in prison
Both had no priors
The father of the white girl aksed the court why the well being of his girl was worth less than that of the black girl
How would you answer this?

If standards are good, double standards are twice as good.

The rapist of the white girl had good cause for his bad behavior.

"I'm depraved on account of I'm deprived!" 'Officer Krupke' - West Side Story

[tkhayes 348]

it's a reflection of the current justice system. pile on the charges and get a better plea deal. Hate crimes carry some stiff penalties, so facing that, the perp will likely plead to whatever gets the less amount of jail-time risk. I doubt the feds want to see a hate crime case go to trial, but I bet they are willing to use it as leverage, as are many prosecutors at all levels will all sorts of charges these days.

We could have trials and focus on the real crimes more if we got rid of the drug wars altogether, but since the system pays itself on arrests and convictions, I doubt that will ever happen anytime soon

[rushmc 23]

I think is it more of the culture that is the current White House and DOJ ocupants

tkhayes

......, but since the system pays itself on arrests and convictions, I doubt that will ever happen anytime soon

But, what you post here I could not agree with more!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 348]

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I think is it more of the culture that is the current White House and DOJ ocupants

maybe at the federal level sure, but the piling on of charges happens all the way down to every level of prosecution.

[rushmc 23]

tkhayes

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I think is it more of the culture that is the current White House and DOJ ocupants

maybe at the federal level sure, but the piling on of charges happens all the way down to every level of prosecution.

Not when it is whites getting clocked by blacks

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 348]

hate crimes at the state level, not affected one bit by the DOJ or the Whitehouse....
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/04/3605959/south-florida-hate-crime-convict.html

plenty more, just google it.

[rushmc 23]

tkhayes

hate crimes at the state level, not affected one bit by the DOJ or the Whitehouse....
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/04/3605959/south-florida-hate-crime-convict.html

plenty more, just google it.

Sure, but it follows the same theme
AND you make the point of the thread
Hate crimes are for whites only

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

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should it be an enhanced sentence issue?

Yes, because the ghost of Emmett Till implores it to be.

That's the short version. As a society, we either get it or we don't. I've lost patience with repeating the long version.

[kelpdiver 2]

rushmc

The father of the white girl aksed the court why the well being of his girl was worth less than that of the black girl
How would you answer this?

I'd have to defer until you could produce verifiable citations, because I just am not going to take what you listed above at face value. This sounds like third hand knowledge at best. "There was a story..."

The history of criminal justice in our nation generally has the black men getting greater sentences for the same crimes - the difference between the PD and expensive lawyers like Johney C.

[Channman 2]

winsor

***I always thought that the victim needs to be a minority for it to count as a hate crime. Are you telling me that whites can be victims of 'hate crime' too?

Not possible. White people are too well-liked.

"Damn", that was well Played Sir

[davjohns 1]

Andy9o8

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should it be an enhanced sentence issue?

Yes, because the ghost of Emmett Till implores it to be.

That's the short version. As a society, we either get it or we don't. I've lost patience with repeating the long version.

I fear the ghosts of our past prevent us from embracing the future.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[Andy9o8 2]

davjohns

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Quote

should it be an enhanced sentence issue?

Yes, because the ghost of Emmett Till implores it to be.

That's the short version. As a society, we either get it or we don't. I've lost patience with repeating the long version.

I fear the ghosts of our past prevent us from embracing the future.

Those who fail to learn from the ghosts of the past are condemned to rot in the past.

[DaVinci 0]

Andy9o8

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should it be an enhanced sentence issue?

Yes, because the ghost of Emmett Till implores it to be.

That's the short version. As a society, we either get it or we don't. I've lost patience with repeating the long version.

I fear the ghosts of our past prevent us from embracing the future.

Those who fail to learn from the ghosts of the past are condemned to rot in the past.

Those who focus on the ghosts of the past will see the ghosts everywhere they look.

[Andy9o8 2]

As I said above, I tire of the long-form of the argument; and as a society, we ultimately either get it or we don't. People on here constantly remind me that progress, as often as not, is at a snail's pace.

[rushmc 23]

If all info given in this artcle is correct
I would consider this a series of hate crimes
And, if I were the judge, I can tell you these cops would most likely NOT have enjoyed the sentece I would put upon them

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/29/judge-hands-down-unbelievably-lenient-sentence-for-cop-who-fingered-suspects-anuses/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln