turtlespeed 226 #76 January 6, 2014 ibxQuoteI think the moniker "Global Warming" will go down in history as one of the great mistakes in marketing. I think the moniker "Average Global Warming Denial" will go down in history as another ideology, propagated by industry lobbyists and parroted by uneducated Americans. There isn't actually much debate in the rest of the world. Hmm - Why didn't you attach "Man Made" to the beginning of that. Perhaps we could actually call it, "Man Made Average Global Warming that probably had something to do with CO2 emmissions along with a natural occurring event of nature, but makes Al Gore a fuckload of money." "Global Warming" is the same as "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #77 January 6, 2014 rushmc I have to admit I love watching lawrocket hand you your ass post after post Jerry got crushed, which is probably why he stopped posting. His choices were to admit he was being dishonest, shut up, or claim that he didn't realise that different bits of ocean could have different temperatures. He didn't take the best option, but he was smart enough not to take the worst one.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #78 January 6, 2014 A delusional reply at best"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #79 January 6, 2014 rushmcA delusional reply at best So tell me what I was wrong about. Specifically. Do you think all water is the same temperature?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #80 January 6, 2014 jakee***A delusional reply at best So tell me what I was wrong about. Specifically. Do you think all water is the same temperature? just to remove the mystery, you can expect to see 2-4 different temperatures at a single dive site within the limited depths that we can get to on open circuit tanks (0-150ish feet). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #81 January 6, 2014 kelpdiver******A delusional reply at best So tell me what I was wrong about. Specifically. Do you think all water is the same temperature? just to remove the mystery, you can expect to see 2-4 different temperatures at a single dive site within the limited depths that we can get to on open circuit tanks (0-150ish feet). Yes, thermoclines, works the same in the atmosphere. It proves nothing.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #82 January 7, 2014 turtlespeed*********A delusional reply at best So tell me what I was wrong about. Specifically. Do you think all water is the same temperature? just to remove the mystery, you can expect to see 2-4 different temperatures at a single dive site within the limited depths that we can get to on open circuit tanks (0-150ish feet). Yes, thermoclines, works the same in the atmosphere. It proves nothing. Yeah, that bit was sorted by Lawrocket's article explaining how, in some situations, warm water below a thermocline can be pulled up to accelerate melting under ice sheets. An article that he provided yet claims not to understand a word of.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #83 January 7, 2014 I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #84 January 7, 2014 brenthutchI'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,074 #85 January 7, 2014 >I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the >word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global >warming. 75F here today, after a month of record high temperatures for December-January. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #86 January 7, 2014 billvon>I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the >word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global >warming. 75F here today, after a month of record high temperatures for December-January. I did not realize that you and Kallend lived in the same neighborhood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #87 January 7, 2014 kallend***I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. Source? Please not ex post facto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #88 January 7, 2014 kallend ***I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. You will buy any line of bullshit they sell Wow It has been this cold before It will be this cold again And I have worked in it for decades But get on the wagon kallend I enjoy the show "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #89 January 7, 2014 brenthutch******I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. Source? Please not ex post facto. His post is a newly developed line of bs trying to get the masses to think this has never happened before A joke and a lie Edited to add I am not saying the term is new But the alarmists way of using this Ooooooooooooo scary term sure the hell is"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #90 January 7, 2014 Hey John When it gets back into the 30's next week who is going to get the credit for fixing the jet stream???"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #91 January 7, 2014 rushmc Hey John When it gets back into the 30's next week who is going to get the credit for fixing the jet stream??? That is the Earth repairing its self. Anything bad is GW or CC, anything good is the Earth doing maintenance.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #92 January 7, 2014 rushmcHey John When it gets back into the 30's next week who is going to get the credit for fixing the jet stream??? Look up "instability". It's in the dictionary. That will leave one fewer stupid question for you to ask.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #93 January 7, 2014 brenthutch******I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. Source? Please not ex post facto. Eat crow. (Source is from 2012)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #94 January 7, 2014 rushmc ******I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. You will buy any line of bullshit they sell Wow How does crow taste?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #95 January 7, 2014 kallend *********I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. Source? Please not ex post facto. Eat crow. (Source is from 2012) RIGHT . . . those studies aren't backed by ANY agenda.You are funny. An alarmist, but funny nonetheless.Its a site that is dedicated to proving Climate Change. They will absolutely find what they are looking for if they want to.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #96 January 7, 2014 turtlespeed ************I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. Source? Please not ex post facto. Eat crow. (Source is from 2012) RIGHT . . . those studies aren't backed by ANY agenda.You are funny. An alarmist, but funny nonetheless.Its a site that is dedicated to proving Climate Change. They will absolutely find what they are looking for if they want to. Did the website do the study though? Did the website fund the study? Obviously a website with an agenda is going to post research that collaborates their viewpoint. However, that doesn't mean the research is flawed by definition. Almost the reverse of don't shoot the messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #97 January 7, 2014 turtlespeed ************I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. Source? Please not ex post facto. Eat crow. (Source is from 2012) RIGHT . . . those studies aren't backed by ANY agenda.You are funny. An alarmist, but funny nonetheless.Its a site that is dedicated to proving Climate Change. They will absolutely find what they are looking for if they want to. Clearly you do not comprehend what you read. (And, incidentally, this source WAS the answer to brenthutch's question.) ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #98 January 7, 2014 kallend***Hey John When it gets back into the 30's next week who is going to get the credit for fixing the jet stream??? Look up "instability". It's in the dictionary. That will leave one fewer stupid question for you to ask. Nothing new John Just more alarmists lame crisis crying"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #99 January 7, 2014 kallend *********I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. You will buy any line of bullshit they sell Wow How does crow taste? Dont know Havent eaten any"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #100 January 7, 2014 rushmc ************I'm sure that Kallend would be able to shed some light on the matter, however, the word on the street is that he is fighting for his life, beset by -15 degrees of global warming. One can only pray that an incremental Prius purchase will save him. Warming of the Arctic was predicted some time back to cause instability of the jet stream. Usually the jet stream confines the polar vortex to the high Arctic. However, due to Arctic warming the polar vortex has been able to move south leading to the current cold spell. You will buy any line of bullshit they sell Wow How does crow taste? Dont know Havent eaten any Dunning-Kruger strikes again.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites