The currently unsustainable world population growth rate.

[grue 1]

I'm strongly against governments telling people how to live their lives, so I'm not in favor of regulation on the matter, however, would it be so bar for those of us in the first world to set a good example and calm the hell down?

Maybe more people should stop treating vaginas like clown cars and seeing how many kids they can make fall out of one?

Maybe more people should stop having kids altogether?

Three of the biggest issues I see in the way, at least in our culture:

Irresponsibility: Women getting knocked up to keep their mate around. Guys slinging their dick everywhere without wrapping it. Breeding for additional welfare money (is that actually a thing, or just a myth?).

Social pressure: How many people have friends and family say "Oh when you have kids…" or "When will you have kids?" like it's some sort of foregone conclusion that everyone should have them or want them?

Religion: Obviously religions have a vested interest in more drones coming out of their adherents, hence why many of them hate birth control and love to throw that mindset around, while they're allegedly "helping".


Disclaimer: I don't like kids and I'm open about that. This post was caused by trying to navigate around someone's brood at the store a little while ago

cavete terrae.

[turtlespeed 221]

grue

I'm strongly against governments telling people how to live their lives, so I'm not in favor of regulation on the matter, however, would it be so bar for those of us in the first world to set a good example and calm the hell down?

Maybe more people should stop treating vaginas like clown cars and seeing how many kids they can make fall out of one?

Maybe more people should stop having kids altogether?

Three of the biggest issues I see in the way, at least in our culture:

Irresponsibility: Women getting knocked up to keep their mate around. Guys slinging their dick everywhere without wrapping it. Breeding for additional welfare money (is that actually a thing, or just a myth?).

Social pressure: How many people have friends and family say "Oh when you have kids…" or "When will you have kids?" like it's some sort of foregone conclusion that everyone should have them or want them?

Religion: Obviously religions have a vested interest in more drones coming out of their adherents, hence why many of them hate birth control and love to throw that mindset around, while they're allegedly "helping".


Disclaimer: I don't like kids and I'm open about that. This post was caused by trying to navigate around someone's brood at the store a little while ago

I found this in a search . . . it certainly seems plausible.

Looks like Hawaii will let you make just over 60K with 2 kids.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[grue 1]

turtlespeed

Looks like Hawaii will let you make just over 60K with 2 kids.

and suddenly I find myself with an eye tic

cavete terrae.

[Stumpy 284]

grue

I don't like kids

No shit.

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Maybe more people should stop having kids altogether?

Why?

The vast, overwhelming majority of people are not having kids for any of your three "biggest issues".

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Social pressure: How many people have friends and family say "Oh when you have kids…" or "When will you have kids?" like it's some sort of foregone conclusion that everyone should have them or want them?

I am with you to a certain extent here - societal expectations annoy me too.
That said - now happily expecting my first in about 3 weeks.

We get that you don't like kids, that's fine. However, lots of people do.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[brenthutch 444]

The most effective contraceptive is development. Developed nations have a negative population rate. Emancipate and educate women and the population bomb will defuse its self.

[turtlespeed 221]

brenthutch

The most effective contraceptive is development. Developed nations have a negative population rate. Emancipate and educate women and the population bomb will defuse its self.

Wouldn't that be nice. A middle east with more educated women. I truly believe the world would change drastically.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[grue 1]

turtlespeed

***The most effective contraceptive is development. Developed nations have a negative population rate. Emancipate and educate women and the population bomb will defuse its self.

Wouldn't that be nice. A middle east with more educated women. I truly believe the world would change drastically.

the middle east, africa, asia…

…the deep south

cavete terrae.

[turtlespeed 221]

grue

******The most effective contraceptive is development. Developed nations have a negative population rate. Emancipate and educate women and the population bomb will defuse its self.

Wouldn't that be nice. A middle east with more educated women. I truly believe the world would change drastically.

the middle east, africa, asia…

…the deep south

OMG - I forgot about Alabama.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[quade 4]

Of all the "green" decisions the average person can make, the decision to not have kids is probably the biggest and ultimately has the most impact.

It's also very personal and goes against millions of years over evolution. I'm not sure how you can expect that to be popular or convince the average person to not reproduce.

Wanna do it? Awesome!

Do not expect anyone else on the planet to understand or agree with the concept. Some will call you selfish or worse when, as I said previously, it's probably the thing a person can do that has the most impact.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[grue 1]

It's probably the only environmentally responsible thing I do

cavete terrae.

[turtlespeed 221]

grue

It's probably the only environmentally responsible thing I do

Not the ONLY . . . But it FAR SURPASSES carbon credits.

Unless you can equate the two in value.

4 billion Carbon Credits for a vasectomy without kids, 2 Million if only one kid, 750K for after 2, but less than 6. 250K for a vasectomy after 7 to 12, 50K for a Vasectomy after 12.

Vasectomy is interchangeable with hysterectomy/tubes tied.

Population reduction should be subsidized more than a freaking Electric Car.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[br0k3n 0]

I think that Doug Stanhope sums it all up quite nicely, in that Sodomy is "Eco-Friendly" and Abortion is "Green"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgDhDa4HHo

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[turtlespeed 221]

br0k3n

I think that Doug Stanhope sums it all up quite nicely, in that Sodomy is "Eco-Friendly" and Abortion is "Green"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgDhDa4HHo

What a twit.

Marginally amusing at best.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[grue 1]

turtlespeed

***It's probably the only environmentally responsible thing I do

Not the ONLY . . . But it FAR SURPASSES carbon credits.

Unless you can equate the two in value.

4 billion Carbon Credits for a vasectomy without kids, 2 Million if only one kid, 750K for after 2, but less than 6. 250K for a vasectomy after 7 to 12, 50K for a Vasectomy after 12.

Vasectomy is interchangeable with hysterectomy/tubes tied.

Population reduction should be subsidized more than a freaking Electric Car.

I think carbon credits are a horrible joke, but if someone wanted to pay me to get the snip I'd be open to offers.

cavete terrae.

[turtlespeed 221]

grue

******It's probably the only environmentally responsible thing I do

Not the ONLY . . . But it FAR SURPASSES carbon credits.

Unless you can equate the two in value.

4 billion Carbon Credits for a vasectomy without kids, 2 Million if only one kid, 750K for after 2, but less than 6. 250K for a vasectomy after 7 to 12, 50K for a Vasectomy after 12.

Vasectomy is interchangeable with hysterectomy/tubes tied.

Population reduction should be subsidized more than a freaking Electric Car.

I think carbon credits are a horrible joke, but if someone wanted to pay me to get the snip I'd be open to offers.

What would the subsidy be?
I did it because of need, but If I was younger, had an offer of 7500, I'd absolutely would have taken it.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[grue 1]

turtlespeed

What would the subsidy be?
I did it because of need, but If I was younger, had an offer of 7500, I'd absolutely would have taken it.

I'd do it for the right amount of coached tunnel time, or the right amount of jump tickets

cavete terrae.

[turtlespeed 221]

grue

***
What would the subsidy be?
I did it because of need, but If I was younger, had an offer of 7500, I'd absolutely would have taken it.

I'd do it for the right amount of coached tunnel time, or the right amount of jump tickets

Ok - but only if it's covered by Obamacare.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[grue 1]

turtlespeed

Ok - but only if it's covered by Obamacare.

how much is something like that, anyway?

cavete terrae.

[turtlespeed 221]

grue

***

Ok - but only if it's covered by Obamacare.

how much is something like that, anyway?

Searched and found this . . .

Reversal seems to be about 2K to 5K

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,006]

I'm not too worried about population. The second derivative for population is already negative; if that continues we should peak in population around 2070 and then decline from there. Expanding women's rights (so they have access to family planning, including contraception and abortion) and improving health care in third world countries (so families don't need to try to have 4 children to end up with 2 survivors) will hasten that day.

[grue 1]

turtlespeed

******

Ok - but only if it's covered by Obamacare.

how much is something like that, anyway?

Searched and found this . . .

Reversal seems to be about 2K to 5K

Seems reasonable.

cavete terrae.

[turtlespeed 221]

billvon

I'm not too worried about population. The second derivative for population is already negative; if that continues we should peak in population around 2070 and then decline from there. Expanding women's rights (so they have access to family planning, including contraception and abortion) and improving health care in third world countries (so families don't need to try to have 4 children to end up with 2 survivors) will hasten that day.

See. We CAN agree on some things.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[airdvr 210]

I believe women will evolve to be asexual and kill us guys. Problem solved.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[turtlespeed 221]

airdvr

I believe women will evolve to be asexual and kill us guys. Problem solved.

End of the species . . . But I seriously doubt it . . . I have known some seriously "amorous" women . . . Their animal nature was exemplary.

I have no doubt that humans will continue.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Arvoitus 1]

I think the biggest problem in your plan is that all the western developed countries have planned and built their societies around continual expansion. There is a constant need to have more children born into this world, so that they can't start working to pay off all the expanses accrued by the older people.

Basically all the western economies are just massive ponzi schemes built around the idea there'll always be more participants.

Your rights end where my feelings begin.